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Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.12.29 19:55:00 -
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OK, I'm no miner. Granted, there's been a couple humiliating moments where I've been seen in a belt with mining lasers, but hopefully none of those moments ever turned into a screenshot.
Thus, I know very little about the overall value of a can.
RMR has given me a new, sec-hit free way to pirate. I fly up to a mining barge/BS in something that could tear through their ship like none other, do a quick transfer from their can to mine (yay for red flashy), and then charge the miner(s) x amount of ISK to be able to take from the can back into their own without having their ships ripped from 'neath their pods. They don't pay, either I wait 15 and haul the ore back in a hauler or I blow up the can. They do pay, I honor it, so that people will keep paying.
So what's a full can worth, in a ransom? Obviously not so much as a ship, and not as much as the total of the ore, otherwise you've no chance of a ransom. It's more something about multiple small ransoms in the time it takes to get one decent sized ransom that seems profitable here. The only way to get a huge payoff, as I see it, is either if a barge tries to forcibly take the ore back or if you basically claim the belt and charge for the right to mine in it.
I just don't know how much to charge for a full can. I'd say only about 2 mil tops for a container full of veldspar, going up from there.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2005.12.29 20:01:00 -
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local ore sell value / 2
no reason to be unfair
 Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.12.29 20:26:00 -
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Maybe a general overview of the worth of each can of ore, without peeking per-region? I hate to have to check market prices every time while they get a friend in a BS to come help.
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Parline
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Posted - 2005.12.29 21:01:00 -
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Hmmmm where are those screenies of Corvus mining
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Arhab
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Posted - 2005.12.29 22:47:00 -
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I think thats a great idea, im a miner and i would love to waste your time!
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Drayco
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Posted - 2005.12.30 03:32:00 -
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Edited by: Drayco on 30/12/2005 03:32:38
ive been doing somewhat the same thing as you Corvus but too many of them either have too much "pride" and say no to my ransom when i grab their ship or they are simply afk or marco miners so i just get free killmails sent to me... lol 
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farsycal
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Posted - 2005.12.30 05:03:00 -
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free kills 4tw? i find it a little pitiful you no longer go ply your trade 'properly'. half assed pirates wtl
i fear we may be at a time were we see a carebear pirate, the ones who are too lame to actually pirate
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Dak Hakin
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Posted - 2005.12.30 06:26:00 -
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Pirates looking for easy prey... You would probably **** yourself if they unleashed a bellyfull of drones. Dont want to take the chance your victim might fight back eh?
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Walok
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Posted - 2005.12.30 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dak Hakin
Pirates looking for easy prey... You would probably **** yourself if they unleashed a bellyfull of drones. Dont want to take the chance your victim might fight back eh?
Oh definatley, because we all know pirates are afraid of miners! 
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I kill people. (and make signatures for 10mil ISK, EVE-Mail me.)
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Dak Hakin
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Posted - 2005.12.30 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Walok
Originally by: Dak Hakin
Pirates looking for easy prey... You would probably **** yourself if they unleashed a bellyfull of drones. Dont want to take the chance your victim might fight back eh?
Oh definatley, because we all know pirates are afraid of miners!
No, but some, like OP, seem to be afraid of returned fire.
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Revan Bloodmoon
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Posted - 2005.12.30 08:49:00 -
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its not the return fire...its the mass of miners out there that are prolly all in a gang...the last thing i want is me shooting at one mining barge and having 10 other barges warp in to help him
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Dak Hakin
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Posted - 2005.12.30 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Revan Bloodmoon
its not the return fire...its the mass of miners out there that are prolly all in a gang...the last thing i want is me shooting at one mining barge and having 10 other barges warp in to help him
But it does paint a funny picture... 12 mining barges attacking a Mega....
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Arisani
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Posted - 2005.12.30 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: farsycal
Edited by: farsycal on 30/12/2005 05:16:53
free kills 4tw? i find it a little pitiful you no longer go ply your trade 'properly'. half assed pirates wtl
i fear we may be at a time were we see a carebear pirate, the ones who are too lame to actually pirate
made me think of you
I'm going to have to agree.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.12.30 09:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ras Blumin on 30/12/2005 09:17:14
Originally by: Dak Hakin
No, but some, like OP, seem to be afraid of returned fire.
Doubt it. I would guess he's doing it for fun and isk, which is the purpose(s) of eve, more or less.
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Corvus Dove
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Posted - 2005.12.30 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ras Blumin
Edited by: Ras Blumin on 30/12/2005 09:17:14
Originally by: Dak Hakin
No, but some, like OP, seem to be afraid of returned fire.
Doubt it. I would guess he's doing it for fun and isk, which is the purpose(s) of eve, more or less.
Very true, Dak. Anyways, a pirate looking for a fair/tough/even/decent fight is typically a very lousy pirate.
BTW all, watch for this bug....had an Apoc, Ferox, and jet can all targetted today that were part of a macro ('cept the can, that was where I moved the ore). Ferox comes after me, I shoot back, realize my cap is draining too fast (in a prophecy) and cut off 3 beams to help my armor tank. I keep shooting with the remaining weapons and get my armor fully repped, so I turn the remaining 3 on (Ferox was still my selected target).
They shot at the Apoc (NOT my selected target) and concorde shot me. Petition sent.
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2005.12.30 15:58:00 -
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Why are the pirate haters so obsessed with the thought that pirates are looking for a fight when they ransom miners? Just because you're talking to the store clerk doesn't mean you're trying to get into her panties.
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