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Damajin
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Posted - 2006.01.04 02:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Hans Roaming
The battle for 5-n is far from over it seems, monumentous times indeed.
It is done. 
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yeah..
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Capt Williams
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Posted - 2006.01.04 04:54:00 -
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lol get your story straight and post with your main
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Logi wan
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Posted - 2006.01.04 04:54:00 -
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Huzzah POS? Whta Huzzah POS? hahahahahaha
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whisk
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Posted - 2006.01.04 05:58:00 -
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EVERYONE STOP WITH THE OMG YOU DID THIS OMG WE DIDN'T, who cares anymore, i seem to remember an 8 page post just full of that crap.
Just fight, have fun, and don't use alts to post on the forum mmmk. Seriously tho, what on earth were IMP doing down in Q?
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Turin
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Posted - 2006.01.04 20:11:00 -
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Just as an update,
that Huzzah POS no longer exsists.
Was fun though, and thanks to SA / Huzzah for the oppertunity to shoot them!
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.01.04 20:33:00 -
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Yup the Huzzah POS no longer exists in 5-n, well done to FIX for winning that battle. Let the war continue.
El Presedente
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Naqq
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Posted - 2006.01.12 08:18:00 -
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The propaganda is ok, but you focus a bit too much on yourself bold.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.01.12 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: sonofollo
stain alliance imo send a fleetdeep and try to cut off the choke point at h74. Get some POSes deployed as well adn try to take the station from the south  - then if u can pull that off and hold it for 7 days then u have infliected a heavy blow on FIX if not well meh
For the love of the emporer WHO ARE YOU???
explain yourself at once! you have no place here.
anyway...
Fix > SA > Fix
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.01.13 09:00:00 -
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SA will WIN
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Nache1
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Posted - 2006.01.13 16:08:00 -
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Its good to see SA still doing well |
Tadis
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Posted - 2006.01.13 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Nache1
Its good to see SA still doing well
If you believe propoganda yes =)
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.13 18:49:00 -
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If you believe propoganda yes =)
the truth is always easy to belive...but at the same time it does not matter if you belive or not..still does not change the facts..denial may save you face for a short period of time..but nothing more
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.01.13 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: dantes inferno
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If you believe propoganda yes =)
the truth is always easy to belive...but at the same time it does not matter if you belive or not..still does not change the facts..denial may save you face for a short period of time..but nothing more
Thats just more propoganda lol. Psychological warfare only works right under the right commander and against the right enemy.
And of course, against the stupid and guillable =)
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.01.13 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tadis
Originally by: dantes inferno
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If you believe propoganda yes =)
the truth is always easy to belive...but at the same time it does not matter if you belive or not..still does not change the facts..denial may save you face for a short period of time..but nothing more
Thats just more propoganda lol. Psychological warfare only works right under the right commander and against the right enemy.
And of course, against the stupid and guillable =)
So is this 
Ultimatly events will play themselves out and history will be the judge.
President
Huzzah Federation
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.13 20:27:00 -
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Thats just more propoganda lol. Psychological warfare only works right under the right commander and against the right enemy.
And of course, against the stupid and guillable =)
not really psychological warfare aint my thing...you can deny and claim propaganda all you like my friend..it still will not change anything in space....as time will show..to quote an old earth song im partial to.....
"Yes time, time, time is on my side, yes it is
Time, time, time is on my side, yes it is
Oh, time, time, time is on my side, yes it is
I said, time, time, time is on my side, yes it is
Oh, time, time, time is on my side
Yeah, time, time, time is on my side
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and in time the truth will be known
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Isonkon Serikain
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Posted - 2006.01.14 02:47:00 -
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I dont know, but judgin from FIX's killboards, Stain is losing more ships... I Don't see how that makes for a good long term advantage.
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Brantoc
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Posted - 2006.01.14 04:19:00 -
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If they run there heads into our fists enough, we may give up..
I think thats the idea anyway.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.01.14 04:44:00 -
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Have a look at all the killboards before you make a call.
President
Huzzah Federation
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.14 08:22:00 -
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I dont know, but judgin from FIX's killboards, Stain is losing more ships... I Don't see how that makes for a good long term advantage
its because they dont post their losses my friend..for fix losses see the sa killboard, for sa losses se the fix killboard..then you will get a good idea of what is happening..we have killed roughy 779 FIX ships (SA only) excluding their trial corps since the beginning of decemeber (from our Killboard) We have lost 389 ships (from FIX killboard) (this count is from 06/12/05..please allow a +/- 30 error margine due to the amount of counting i had to do)now i know people will claim this to be more properganda and lies..all i have to say is...count yourself and you will see that im telling the truth..the fix KB can be found through their forums and any one who wants to count send me an eve mail ill send u a link to our KB.
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Priest Vallon
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Posted - 2006.01.14 08:44:00 -
[50]
Originally by: wabbit hunta
Querious-
A mention should go to the great commander of MASS, thebold, who is succesfully running a guerilla warfare capaign deep in fix space claiming fix pilot lifes daily without any losses, during this campaign, thebold managed to kill 7 fix battleships.
A great day for stain, a very bad day for Fix.
This clearly is the alt of The Bolt him self
as no1 else would stuff so much feathers up his ass 
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.14 08:46:00 -
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This clearly is the alt of The Bolt him self
nah bold would use his main to inflate his ego :P
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Paradox Eve
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Posted - 2006.01.14 12:45:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Paradox Eve on 14/01/2006 12:52:51
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its because they dont post their losses my friend..for fix losses see the sa killboard, for sa losses se the fix killboard..then you will get a good idea of what is happening..we have killed roughy 779 FIX ships (SA only) excluding their trial corps since the beginning of decemeber (from our Killboard) We have lost 389 ships (from FIX killboard) (this count is from 06/12/05..please allow a +/- 30 error margine due to the amount of counting i had to do)now i know people will claim this to be more properganda and lies..all i have to say is...count yourself and you will see that im telling the truth..the fix KB can be found through their forums and any one who wants to count send me an eve mail ill send u a link to our KB.
First of all, you need to be very cafeful what you are and are not counting there. FIX does not include shuttles, noob ships, or capsules on its main "kills" area. [Thos only show up in general statistics and personal player stats.] So a fair comparison would have to exclude all such kills from the SA killboard.
Thus, I did a quick inspection of my own with these exclusions. I didnt have the patience to go all the way back to the beginning of december, so I started Jan. 1 and went through Jan. 14 at 5:10. Results: SA kills = 347; FIX kills = 277. This is quite far from the 2 to 1 ratio you report above. [Although SA is still killing more FIX than vice versa.]
So SA has 55% of the total kills, and FIX has 45%.
But there is something much more striking in these numbers. Assuming your own count of FIX kills was right, that would mean that FIX kills of SA has gone up about six times as much this month as last month [about 1/3 of the kills in your total is last month, and this month is only half over]. SA's kills, on the other had, has only gone up about four times [when pods, noob ships, and shuttles are included, SA killed 514 this month compared to your stated 779 total].
Thus, my conclusion is that SA- in terms of the shear number of total kills- is winning this war, albeit not by a great deal. FIX, on the other hand, is closing the gap and increasing thier own kills much faster than SA.
[Note: My analysis does not take into account what kinds of kills any of these numbers are (excepting the exclusions), so "winning in terms of shear numbers" may or may not be saying anything of importance. SA, for example, could have killed far more t1 frigs while FIX could have killed more BS's and HAC's. I simply don't know at this point, so the results should be looked at in a critical manner.]
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.14 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: dantes inferno on 14/01/2006 13:31:53
Edited by: dantes inferno on 14/01/2006 13:28:31
december 9th 2005 - January 14/01/2006
SA KILLS
(these are members of the IGA only.excluding the trial members)
BS = 145 Kills
BC = 17
cruiser = 53 Kills
DD = 12
frigs = 112
AF = 49
intys = 103
stealth = 15
HAC = 18
covert ops = 7
combat ships = 531
Barge= 4
hauler = 21
trasnports = 5
Industiral ships = 30 Kills
capsules = 213
total ships exculding noob ship & shuttle kills = 774
** NB i was going to try do something similr with fix KB, but mainly the pair of us were closly in agrememtn with FIX kills, and i wernt sure if the fix board had the ability to spilt by alliance and ship...add the fact im tired and lost patiente.
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or capsules on its main "kills" area
i did in fact count capsule kills on the fix KB and inc in the main count.
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Calderio
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Posted - 2006.01.14 14:36:00 -
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you know for the month I am number 1 in BOB for shuttle kills.
you know, while we are comparing kills and all
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Paradox Eve
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Posted - 2006.01.14 14:42:00 -
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Thank you. Your post inspired me to do the same thing with FIX killboard. Here we go:
FIX Kills:
BS = 99
BC = 25
Cruiser = 119
DD = 5
Frig = 49
AF = 29
inty = 128
HAC = 9
cov. ops = 19
Total combat ships = 482
hauler = 7
transport = 2
Industrial ships = 9
Total campain kills = 491, losses = 531 (assuming above poster is correct on this number)
There you have it folks. [I dont know why the first count of SA losses was so low. Bias perhaps?]
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Paradox Eve
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Posted - 2006.01.14 14:54:00 -
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which is a massive difference between what the comment made by the alt that FIX is killing more than sa...which is the very point i was countering..i did not notice that fix did not count capsules so now taking them out we still have 142 more kills this month and a fair share are BS
This month, as in Jan., SA has 70 more kills, not 142. [Again, excluding noob ships, shuttles, and capsules- but counting all others.]
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Brantoc
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Posted - 2006.01.14 15:36:00 -
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That only really counts if you include two other alliances, and 6 other corps as being 'IN' SA.
Don't flatter yourself, SA is only one of several groups we are fighting at the moment, and we are still 45% of all total kills involving all parties using your numbers. Not bad considering we are outnumbered considerably.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:31:00 -
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campain kills = 482
if this figure is correct it is human error nothing more..trust me i wouldnt spend so long doing this to lie..it would just undermine my point..i will double check it when im not so tired..IF and i mean IF it is correct you have my apologies
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This month, as in Jan., SA has 70 more kills, not 142. [Again, excluding noob ships, shuttles, and capsules- but counting all others.]
i think the fact i stated dec 9 - jan 14th enough times for people to relise i mean month as in 4 weeks ago, not as in a calander month...but still 70 kills more is more kills again refuting the posts made by the fix alt it is them killing more than us
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That only really counts if you include two other alliances, and 6 other corps as being 'IN' SA.
every FIX kill i listed is for SA, every SA kill i listed is from SA...if we want to go this route i could of added the kill to/from trial corps (xept i dont know them all), the kills to and from KAOS, and HUZZAH. but im not that sad.
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Don't flatter yourself, SA is only one of several groups we are fighting at the moment, and we are still 45% of all total kills involving all parties using your numbers. Not bad considering we are outnumbered considerably.
my numbers are fix/sa only...something i think i pointed out several times..there will be kaos/huzzah people involved in the kills...just as there are trial members involved in our losses. i did not tally the entrie war
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Queen Rachok
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Posted - 2006.01.14 18:08:00 -
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Hmmm, on todays episode of EVE-Online.......
Actually if this is true, it had everything of a great campaign. It had tactical decisions, unexpected allies that offered help, and even spies... Hmmm.... makes me wanna... hmmm....
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Paradox Eve
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Posted - 2006.01.14 21:20:00 -
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if this figure is correct it is human error nothing more..trust me i wouldnt spend so long doing this to lie..it would just undermine my point..i will double check it when im not so tired..IF and i mean IF it is correct you have my apologies
Perfectly understandable. FIX killboard doesn't make it so nice and easy to count these things the way the SA board does. I could very well have made mistakes as well. Would be nice if a third party could count them as well, but I kind of doubt that will happen. Ill double check myself though when I have enough free time and feel like it.
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i think the fact i stated dec 9 - jan 14th enough times for people to relise i mean month as in 4 weeks ago, not as in a calander month...but still 70 kills more is more kills again refuting the posts made by the fix alt it is them killing more than us
You're right. I was the one spliting things up into calander months so I got a bit confused thinking we were on the same page. My mistake. But if you meant the month as you did, the number would be far fewer than 70 (assuming my FIX kills and your SA kills listed are both correct).
BTW- could I kindly ask you not to quote multiple people in the same post without making it clear who is being quoted? I dont want to be associated with that other poster. My only purpose is to look at the facts as objectively as possible and cut through all the BS spewing out of many FIX and SA posters. Thanks...
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