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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.29 08:56:00 -
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Skydell wrote:I'd rather Iteron mine in 1.0 sec myself.
Groveling at the feet of an Overlord for "fun"? No, don't see it happening.
Renting is nothing like that. This clearly shows you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
When you rent space, you pay your rent, which is essentially like tax but you pay in a single hit. After that, you do whatever you want. You don't have to go on ops, you don't have to defend your space. You simply rat or mine or roam or whatever you want.
If anything, Renters have less of an "overlord" structure than a regular corp in an alliance. A regular corp pays tax, has to go on OPs and has too defend their space.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
491
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Posted - 2013.08.29 08:59:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:Oh and ABC's, A and X type loots and pirate implants/ BPC's
I think ABC is MHHAJCB at the moment.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
492
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Posted - 2013.08.29 09:43:00 -
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Best of luck finding people that won't go monkey **** at 25% tax and no active leadership.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.29 10:32:00 -
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S'Way wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Best of luck finding people that won't go monkey **** at 25% tax and no active leadership. You'd be surprised just how many are willing to join at 20% with no CTA's or any "must attend" corp ops. If you want to set it to 25% just be willing to carrier jump stuff they need once a week. There's a huge number of high-sec people who want to try 0.0 without any forced corp ops / cta's. The no active leadership isn't an issue as long as your recruitment policy catches potential awoxers (full api / proper checks etc needed). Most of them just want to rat or mine in peace.
Yeah, but most of them also want a tiny amount of structure. Not to mention that anyone mining doesn't pay tax so will be seen as non-contributing. If this was a readily doable plan, ther entire rental space would be filled with alt corps. But it's not.
Having been in a corp that rented, it's just not as simple as "dump them in a corp, come back and harvest isk". They are players, not crops.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
492
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Posted - 2013.08.29 11:03:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Skydell wrote:I'd rather Iteron mine in 1.0 sec myself.
Groveling at the feet of an Overlord for "fun"? No, don't see it happening. Renting is nothing like that. This clearly shows you don't have a clue what you are talking about. When you rent space, you pay your rent, which is essentially like tax but you pay in a single hit. After that, you do whatever you want. You don't have to go on ops, you don't have to defend your space. You simply rat or mine or roam or whatever you want. If anything, Renters have less of an "overlord" structure than a regular corp in an alliance. A regular corp pays tax, has to go on OPs and has too defend their space. If it only it was really like that. I have had experience with Renters who were complete dicks, wouldn't lift a finger to help, had more rules then most countries have laws and were very restrictive on what you could and could not do. Other Renters basically couldn't give a damn, its your space, you do what you want. Each Renter Alliance is different. I know the Goons have now become renters hence the charm offensive but jesus don't over do it :)
Well across my characters I've been in 3 renter alliances. All of them had the same core features:
- No CTAs
- Wartime defense of the space (roams are your own problem, not theirs)
- Only low/no income moons available
- Some JBs available
- Limited Intel Channels
Anything beyond that is up to your corp to arrange. They don't provide logistics or roam defense, but at the same time they don't make demands of you. Sure the rules may differ from alliance to alliance, but an overlord structure would insinuate that the alliance will make you do their bidding, which just isn't the case in renting. I stick by my stance that a renting corp gets treated less like a peon than a member corp of most alliances.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
494
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Posted - 2013.08.29 11:17:00 -
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Mayhaw Morgan wrote:You are describing the hardship of operating in null without the backing of a large coalition. You are arguing that circumventing that hardship by paying someone else allows you to be "free" and to "play the game" the way you want. But, the hardship that you guys are describing IS "the game" of EVE Online . . . isn't it? And if it is, and if you are avoiding it, then what are you paying for? If it isn't, then what IS the game?
Generally people that rent are looking to settle down into an area they can live in relative safety and do whatever it is they want to do. Some people play EVE for PVE. Some people play to go on small scale PvP. Some people want to build an industry venture. Those things are all made easier in null. PVE is on your doorstep, PvP can be done without risk of being concorded or giving away kill rights, and Industry is a lot easier due to the ease of chucking down a POS.
Not everyone plays EVE to experience hardship, so no, that ISN'T "the game".
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