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Phasics	Posted - 2006.01.04 07:58:00 - [1] Is this right or is it a mistake ? becuase that a massvie bonus over the other cap ships it effectivly triples the drone strength at lv4 like fielding 30 heavy drones Pre-RMR the other dread only get bonuses equivalent to a reuglar BS , what gives ? or am I missing somthing the others get ?
Tulia	Posted - 2006.01.04 08:00:00 - [2] Pre patch, moros controlled up to 35 drones.
Phasics	Posted - 2006.01.04 08:01:00 - [3] ok so what do the other dread get to compensate for this ?
Jaleean Atheria	Posted - 2006.01.04 08:06:00 - [4] the other dreads could never field 35 drones. So its a non-issue. Orignal Mr. Floppyknickers signature
Phasics	Posted - 2006.01.04 08:08:00 - [5] I know I'm just interested to know why they other dreads never got such a great support bonus ?
Darwinia	Posted - 2006.01.04 08:16:00 - [6] Well, consider this.. The Moros is the only dread whose bonus you can counter (large smartbombs for example). Since the dreadnoughts are immune to EW in siege mode, the other dreads can make full use of their bonuses.
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2006.01.04 08:18:00 - [7] Originally by: Darwinia Well, consider this.. The Moros is the only dread whose bonus you can counter (large smartbombs for example). Since the dreadnoughts are immune to EW in siege mode, the other dreads can make full use of their bonuses. well if you think flying a megathron with blasters is rough, imagine a dread using XL Blasters.. they dont exactly have huge range either and obviously dreads dont move very fast, at all, so yeah Moros has uber drone support ------
Steven Dynahir	Posted - 2006.01.04 08:18:00 - [8] Well, it lost it's mining bonus =/ --- Home, sweet home.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.01.04 08:35:00 - [9] Originally by: Steven Dynahir Well, it lost it's mining bonus =/ omg nooo
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.01.04 08:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Steven Dynahir Well, it lost it's mining bonus =/ so true ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
Grimwalius d'Antan	Posted - 2006.01.04 08:41:00 - [11] The other dreads has better weapon firepower, the Moros has better drones. For anti-BS, the Moros may be king, but I think the others might be better at what dreads are actually mean't for: taking down POSes and Conquerable stations.
Longasc	Posted - 2006.01.04 09:36:00 - [12] This is a very artifical bonus. 1 Drone of a Moros hits for the damage of all drones of a normal ship. Who tells me whose drones are attacking me? You might be able to tank over 5 drones, but suddenly 2 more appear and things get ugly. "Uh, must have been Moros Drones." Do not get me wrong, I am not about discussing if this bonus is overpowered or not - it is just absolutely artifical. As if Signature Radius and damage done by Missiles to smaller targets would not be a strange enough concept. Tech 2 Ammo is similar, some things that happen to your ship with certain kinds of ammo in your guns are just too strange too.
Phasics	Posted - 2006.01.04 10:12:00 - [13] %95 of EVE is trying to understand hehehe probably safer to remain ignorant
Fuazzole	Posted - 2006.01.04 10:15:00 - [14] when i dual moros i like to ignore the drone's and get wasted in 2sec who would be silly enuf to pop those 5 drones and then hide under the XL tracking range
Harry Voyager	Posted - 2006.01.04 10:52:00 - [15] The Naglfar gets a 7.5% XL Proj RoF bonus and a 5% Citadel Missle launcher RoF bonus. The Revelation gets a 10% XL Engery Turret Cap reduction and 5% XL Energy Turret RoF bonus. The Phoenix gets a 5% Kinetic missile and 5% Citadel Launcher RoF bonus. The Moros gets a 5% XL Hybrid damage bonus and a 50% drone damage bonus. If you look at the ships carefully, you'll see that each one has two weapon bonuses of some sort. The Phoenix is the easiest to understand with a 5% damage and 5% RoF bonus. The Revelation isn't to obscure either, eith its 5% RoF bonus and 10% cap reduction making sustainable fire possible. The Naglfar is a bit tricker to make sense of with its 7.5 Proj RoF and 5% Missile RoF bonus. While on the surface, that 7.5% RoF bonus looks excessive with the other 5% RoF bonus, once you notice that the Naglfar is a split weapon system ship, while the other ships are single weapon system ships, it becomes more clear that in order for the Nag to be compairable it needs twinned bonuses for each weapon type, rather than two bonuses dispersed. The Moros is the final quirk. For its main weapons it only has a single bonus, a 5% damage bonus. This pales in compairison to the double bonuses all other dreadnaughts receive, thus it is due another bonus. The dev team decided to make that a Drone related bonus, to reflect the Gallente focus on drone ships. The question then becomes, how much of a bonus does it need to be? The answer is, it must be a bonus such that Moros drones compensate for the output lost from the missing second damage bonus. Considering that a single 5% damage increase to an AM weilding Ion Siege Cannon yeilds a minimum 33.6 base damage per gun, per round, and a 168 damage in siege mode, while a single Ogre can manage only a base 19.2 dps, it needs to be a pretty substantial bonus, especially sconsidering how drones receive no bonus from siege mode. that is, essentially, how the Moros ended up with a +5 drones per level, later changed to +50% drone damage per level bonus. It takes that kind of bonus to make up for the dmage bonus it does not have. Harry Voyager ____________________ I'm not an idiot; I just play one on the forums.
DARTHxFREE	Posted - 2006.01.04 11:06:00 - [16] I think what their saying hairy voyeger is that they envy the moros +cap bonus to big laser's doesn't fry Cruisers & BS +drone dmg does I say shoot the drone's if u fear em so much >:-E3 /join Cheeze & Whine Club Blaster Kamikaze, If your not prepeared to give it all up, stop saying your not a care bear
Alan Bell	Posted - 2006.01.04 11:09:00 - [17] just imagine what drone interfacing modules would do.... 10 drones at 350% normal damge... http://coldfusion.online-guild.com
Captain Logoffski	Posted - 2006.01.04 11:30:00 - [18] Blaster's have higher DPS than the other guns even after skills, therefore making them better at their role - anti-POS. And then on top of this, the drones do is provide the moros with something that none of the other dreads have - anti-BS abilities, whilst in siege mode. Whilst in siege mode is the key. It can sit there tanking away, whilst being able to blow up BS's fairly rapidly (only a few volleys from the drones with those bonuses). Overpowered, unbalanced.
Ati'Kasha	Posted - 2006.01.04 11:36:00 - [19] I wonder why there's so many Revelations around whacking at POS's if the Moros is so overpowered...
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.01.04 13:07:00 - [20] Originally by: Captain Logoffski Blaster's have higher DPS than the other guns even after skills, therefore making them better at their role - anti-POS. And then on top of this, the drones do is provide the moros with something that none of the other dreads have - anti-BS abilities, whilst in siege mode. Whilst in siege mode is the key. It can sit there tanking away, whilst being able to blow up BS's fairly rapidly (only a few volleys from the drones with those bonuses). Overpowered, unbalanced. Yes and mega is good at wasting battleships too, isn't it. Battleships are soo slow... I don't even know if drones still can lock towers, as they were changing something about that. HatePeace LoveWar[ATUK] > they ebayed the bs for grain
Lagar	Posted - 2006.01.04 13:35:00 - [21] Moros can be good against the smaller targets.. but i think that the new carriers are going to be the drone kings and queens
Anjerrai Meloanis	Posted - 2006.01.04 15:31:00 - [22] question, if you used 5 sentry drones and had gallente dread lvl 4 and activated siege mode would they bbq everything? uh.
Wulfgard	Posted - 2006.01.04 15:42:00 - [23] Originally by: Phasics Is this right or is it a mistake ? becuase that a massvie bonus over the other cap ships it effectivly triples the drone strength at lv4 like fielding 30 heavy drones Pre-RMR the other dread only get bonuses equivalent to a reuglar BS , what gives ? or am I missing somthing the others get ? It is a mistake to not fly Gallente these days. Taranis, Thorax, Deimos, Dom and now Moros added to the list of pwnmobiles Must be Gallente chicks french kissing the devs
Flamia	Posted - 2006.01.04 15:43:00 - [24] No, because they would be popped quickly.

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