Aren't those half dreadproof? As I understood, you could take up a little transversal prior to sieging and glide around the dread while shooting things. And nothing they could do to stop your ways... It just reads a little as if those things were meant to enter bastion WHILE moving, since BS guns still have a little tracking.

In nonapital space, those could be a fine tip, espeially given that mass limitations would just stop them from using wormholes in c4 and down with bastion up.

Though I highly doubt they'll see overwhelming usage in wh-pew, just soooo many downsides to just bringing bhaals/vindicators for that amount of mass.

Aren't those half dreadproof? As I understood, you could take up a little transversal prior to sieging and glide around the dread while shooting things. And nothing they could do to stop your ways... It just reads a little as if those things were meant to enter bastion WHILE moving, since BS guns still have a little tracking.

In nonapital space, those could be a fine tip, espeially given that mass limitations would just stop them from using wormholes in c4 and down with bastion up.

Though I highly doubt they'll see overwhelming usage in wh-pew, just soooo many downsides to just bringing bhaals/vindicators for that amount of mass.

considering most wh fleets run with alot of nuets (and scrambers to keep them from running after bastion mode) not alot

still waiting to hear from chista and james on if they can jump while in bastion mode. although as thor6677 said woudl be same as a dread jumpingwhile seiged or a triage carrier jumpingwhile triaged so yeah cant see it happing but confimation would be nice

So basically, you could set up your vargur for kiting by combining Bastion/MWD/MJD, pick up speed with an OH mwd cycle and accelerate until the first scram/web hits, immediately bastion up and probably (with links) kite at some 800m/s (1.5km/s with CS links+OH mwd, 14seconds align approx), also very easy for your capacitor aswell as sigtanking missiles <.<
Especially given the huge damage envelope, sounds interisting. Once you're done can either MJD back to the wh or bounce back. :P

Nothing will stop you, protei go crying over your velocity and distance, and you're even running away from Hictors.

This sounds like a terribly nice niche application.

When in bastion mode, Marauder speed is set to 0 m/s, mass is increased by a factor of 10, cannot warp. Also receives a weapons timer that prevents station docking or gate jumping. Weapon time should not require the user to drop weapon safeties in high-sec (being investigated)
Only one may be fitted per Marauder, cannot be deactivated before cycle ends

You are all giant carebears overlooking CCP has thought ahead of you bears and said screw you, we're are zeroing your speeds.

Guys you got it all Wrong......
This Ship in wormhole space can only work in one Fleet Doctrine....

You need 2 of them and a HULL TANKED Orca . so you can combat refit ...

So why would you combat refit, so you can better tank the omni damage coming from sleepers, regen your cap under heavy neut pressure in highclass wormholes aaaaand have a GTFO refit ready if you are stuck in a HICTOR BUBBLE with Scram / Webs and disruptors...

Also FUDGE THE ORCA.....

and to the guy who had that brainfart of saying that theeese ships would be awesome to do "lowclass" sieges with ...
If you shall ever drop like 10-20 1b Battleships .... i have one request and 2 arguements.....

Request: ******* invite me because i want to see you hilariously fail and record it...

1st Arguement: NEUTS
2nd Arguement: Large Pos Defense guns and 0m/s Velocity

Thank you thank you thank you....

And yes you will see these badboys in wormhole space... and yes they will be restricted to c4s

Dominance of RR Tengus? LOL. Wake up, look at some of the rebalanced ships and use your brain, instead of using years-old fittings you found on Battleclinic ^^

so you want to field a dozen or so billion isk battleships to destroy a POS while the bastion mod gives no damage bonus?

thats gonna take HOURS


please, please do this


i imagine we'll find a few of these every week to pad the killboard a bit

should have called it Beast Mode didn't we teach them anything with ATX

one.

have a GTFO refit ready if you are stuck in a HICTOR BUBBLE with Scram / Webs and disruptors...

I'm sure we'll see plenty of funny officer derpfit Marauders this Winter.

We'll as often see battlereports with lolmarauder topping every lossmail or the overconfident gank fleet who go lolmarauderinbastionlol, warp their useless HIC on it, followed by their soontodie T3s. Well at least they get their own HIC on the mails.

Is that guy really soloing sites, or is he baiting us, surrounded by a cloaky trapfleet? Only one way to find out.

That will be an excellent use, lolbait.

That's not just bait, that's a goddamn brick tied to the end of a fishing pole

This whole change to Marauders feels like it should belong on a separate set of hulls. Shoehorning mini dread mode on to a
Billion plus hull makes me think... Why not just bring a dread?


This change is just going to pigeonhole marauders further into the pve role than they already are. If ccp wants to see more mjd sniping going on nerf ongrid combat scanning so sniping at extend ranges is an actual viable tactic.
This just feels like they are trying to make a hammer do a screwdrivers job.

Time for another update.

We discussed the Marauder situation further and came with the following changes:

• Shield, armor and hull 30% resistance boosts have been removed on the Bastion Module - instead, all Marauders will now get proper tech2 resists. This will allow Marauders to have better RR use outside Bastion and reduce overall tanking effectiveness inside the mode.


• We have removed all tanking bonuses on the Marauders hulls (Armor Repairer amount on the Paladin and Kronos, Shield Boost amount on the Golem and Vargur). Instead, we are giving them 7.5% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level. This will not only help reducing their tanking effectiveness, be more in theme with the ship role itself and help anyone using them with short range weapons. We are not giving them a full 10% per level back as this would be extremely powerful in conjunction with the other bonuses / Bastion. We are going to leave the full 10% web strength amount on the Serpentis ships for now and see how things evolve with time.


• Also, we are removing the mass penalty on the Bastion mode. Tests have shown you can't really turn when it's active anyway, and we don't want to have players abuse that to collapse wormholes.

I will change the OP to match the changes.

Why not just bring a dread? Have you ever done any anoms in nullsec or any sleeper sites or ever been in highsec...

Bastion seems pretty uninspired to me now.... You will have slightly better damage application, be immune to E-war but not be able to receive reps... Great. In pvp, people will probably not fit the bastion mod and just fit tracking computers and ECCM mods.