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Elder Ozzian Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light 92	Posted - 2013.08.30 19:34:00 - [1] - Quote I've introduced few of my friends to the wonderful world of New Eden. Here is some observations: The interface is overwhelming. Newbie: "How do i steer my ship manually?" Acceleration gates (especially the followup gates) are not intuitive: Newbie: "I destroyed everything in the mission area, but the mission is not completed. What did I do wrong?". Leads to the point where i'm flying 30 jumps to help the newbie to get through a tutorial mission. Tutorial is exhausting. Me: "Did you read the tutorial instructions?" Newbie: "Too long, didn't read. So... How do i do this? Leads to a point where I'm explaining the meaning of the tutorials. The epic arc agent reference from Aura after the first missions is misleading: Newbie: "Aura told me a name of an agent and showed me this career agent -list. The agent is not on this list" I'm suggesting to go to the career agents. No suggestions after completing all the career agents. Newbie: "What am i supposed to do now?". Me "What do you like to do the most?". Newbie: "Well, what makes the most money?". Me: "Wormholes, factional warfare, exploration... But yeah, that might be too difficult this early in the game. Come salvage my missions..?". No clue what to skill on, what attributes are and why attribute implants matter? Me: "What are you training at the moment?". Newbie: "Nothing". Me: "Why not?". Newbie: "Well... What should i train?". Me: "Frigates might be a good idea?". Newbie: "Frigates skill doesn't even give a bonuses..." I'm explaining how ship bonuses are found and how do they differ from each other. The lost memory of the epic arc agent: Me: "How about the epic arc agent?". Newbie: "What's that? ...I already forgot that name, where can i find it?" Google tells us all... The frustration on low level missions: Newbie: "Seriously, why can't i get higher level missions? These offers no challenge and I can do these my eyes closed, and they give me less than 1/10th of the money I get when I salvage your missions!" Me again: "Come salvage my missions...". How to ruin newbies game at the start: Give them too much money. If they earn more money from doing practically nothing, they'll lose interest and quit early. Push them to bigger ships too early. They cannot afford it by them selves and it will lead to the first mistake (above). Get them into PVP too early. They'll just lose their ships and cannot afford to replace them. Leads to the first mistake. Tell that some real activity (like mining) is boring and not worth it. Let them find out what they want to do. We need all the industrialists and care-bears to keep the money flowing for all of us. And perhaps they like mining and all the "boring" stuff. Suggestion: Aura shouldn't just dump players after tutorials. Maybe she should be always easily accessible for help. The helping hand answering some questions like "What am I supposed to do next?" with the multiple choice questions like the personality analysis in the eve-online website. Also offering support what to skill next to achieve that goal. Offering also some "near match" choices. I'm not saying these are the only bad things in the NPE. I'm saying that there should be more done on iterating it. I disagree!
Lephia DeGrande Luxembourg Space Union 81	Posted - 2013.08.30 19:39:00 - [2] - Quote Some yes, some no... And tbh: "Tutorial is exhausting. Me: "Did you read the tutorial instructions?" Newbie: "Too long, didn't read. So... How do i do this? Leads to a point where I'm explaining the meaning of the tutorials." <-- makes me wanna puke.
Elder Ozzian Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light 92	Posted - 2013.08.30 19:43:00 - [3] - Quote Lephia DeGrande wrote: ... Leads to a point where I'm explaining the meaning of the tutorials." <-- makes me wanna puke. I know, but that ease the load from newbies when i don't have to tell them every thing that are already explained in the tutorials. I disagree!
Phaade Debitum Naturae WHY so Seri0Us 85	Posted - 2013.08.30 19:47:00 - [4] - Quote The beginning of the game lacks any direction. Level 1 missions are boooorrrriiiinngggg. PVP is too expensive, Mining is stupidly boring, Epic arc / COSMOS missions are too difficult for a long while. There isn't that much to do other than missions when you start...
El Geo Pathfinders. 161	Posted - 2013.08.30 23:33:00 - [5] - Quote Phaade wrote: The beginning of the game lacks any direction. Level 1 missions are boooorrrriiiinngggg. PVP is too expensive, Mining is stupidly boring, Epic arc / COSMOS missions are too difficult for a long while. There isn't that much to do other than missions when you start... I don't think that's entirely just the beginning of the game.... path-+find-+er (pthfndr, p+ñth-)n. 1. One that discovers a new course or way, especially through or into unexplored regions. http://www.youtube.com/user/EvEPathfinders/videos?view=0
Dr0000 Maulerant Mu cows 3	Posted - 2013.08.31 16:25:00 - [6] - Quote Elder Ozzian wrote: How to ruin newbies game at the start: Give them too much money. If they earn more money from doing practically nothing, they'll lose interest and quit early. Push them to bigger ships too early. They cannot afford it by them selves and it will lead to the first mistake (above). Get them into PVP too early. They'll just lose their ships and cannot afford to replace them. Leads to the first mistake. Nonsense. Utter nonsense.
Elder Ozzian Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light 92	Posted - 2013.08.31 16:32:00 - [7] - Quote Dr0000 Maulerant wrote: Elder Ozzian wrote: How to ruin newbies game at the start: Give them too much money. If they earn more money from doing practically nothing, they'll lose interest and quit early. Push them to bigger ships too early. They cannot afford it by them selves and it will lead to the first mistake (above). Get them into PVP too early. They'll just lose their ships and cannot afford to replace them. Leads to the first mistake. Nonsense. Utter nonsense. So, you can afford to lose megas? Intresting... I disagree!
Dr0000 Maulerant Mu cows 3	Posted - 2013.08.31 16:44:00 - [8] - Quote Was the sarcasm in that post not palpable? Seriously though, there are a lot of issues like that where you need out of game resources to learn some things. Or worse yet, you try them and fail before hitting google.


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