Thoughts?

My thought is, why do you even have to smacktalk the other pilot to begin with...

My thought is, why do you even have to smacktalk the other pilot to begin with...

If your skin is too thin for a bit of a thrashing you're basically saying you're too weak for pvp and maybe you need to go back to hi-sec where your fat butt can disappear inside a L4.

need to go back to hi-sec where yourthere fat butt can disappear inside a L4.

My thought is, why do you even have to smacktalk the other pilot to begin with...

Because you are violating the Rules of Conduct in regards to chat channels. While the rules were not well enforced in the past, it sems they are being enforced now. Don't like it? Tough. You signed the EULA to play the game and abide by the rules CCP sets forth.

Well it's not something that comes up when you're mining veldspar in your leviathan or whatever but when you're chilling at 10% tidi and your guns won't cycle for approximately one eternity, it's time to remind the enemy that they're trash and that my enemy doesn't need to go to the bathroom, that's just a super exiting build on their CSAA.

It's very important psychological warfare.

Honestly, how can I make a point when my vocab is limited to !@#$%^&*. CCP, what gives?

Isn't you popping their "stuff" proof that they're trash though? And the bathroom reference I don't really get - they don't need to go to the bathroom because they just completed the build as it was exiting? In which case they are not trash - but you are for not popping the CSAA in time?

Random thoughts here.

/c

Nobody asked for a legalistic "it's wrong because it's not allowed" trash answer. This isn't a bible study, it's eve online, and trash talk is just as important in Spaceship War as is real life propaganda to real world war efforts. Please offer a deeper response.

My thought is, why do you even have to smacktalk the other pilot to begin with...

Explain to me why I'm inviting a ban when I tell someone mid-battle that they're fat enough to anchor a POS around?

Don't see why you can't trash talk people without being a little classier than a COD player about it. Fat jokes are poor form and have no class. If I wanted classless trash talk, I'd go play COD.

Also, I do believe that making weight jokes can be classed as bullying. There might be a tonne of people that don't care about their weight, but one day you'll call the wrong person "fat". A few things could happen here: that person may commit self-harm of one form or another due to increased levels of insecurity about their weight, or they may take action, be it legal or otherwise, against online harassment. Either way, this person is going to draw negative attention to EVE Online in the media.

So, to respond to your "I don't want no vanilla 'it's in the EULA so don't do it' reason, I want something with depth', it probably exists as a no-no in the EULA for the following reasons: a) it's harassment, and if you're harassing people you're a bad person and you should feel bad, and bad people don't get to play EVE, and b) CCP probably don't want the negative attention that something that could be construed as online bullying would develop.

Anyway, smack talk only matters, and is only effective, when you can back it up. "**** or get off the pot" I say. There ya go, there's another poop joke for ya.

Explain to me why I'm inviting a ban when I tell someone mid-battle that they're fat enough to anchor a POS around?

What happened to those halcyon days where, between goatse spam, fofo's, and z0r chains, I could tell someone that their ass is so wide it's showing up on my overview as a celestial?

I doubt you could convince me otherwise, and I'm certain that smack talk should not only be allowed, but encouraged.

If your skin is too thin for a bit of a thrashing you're basically saying you're too weak for pvp and maybe you need to go back to hi-sec where your fat butt can disappear inside a L4.

Thoughts?

Now that you ment..

Oh wait, it's a goon.

Shut up, fatty.

I believe in smack talk but not on the forums where information should be acquired

Frankly, I shouldn't have to dance around the mental instabilities of others. Often times, in this game, I don't. If you scam someone and they send you pictures of your eveguy's name carved into their forearm, you don't get banned. They probably do. Why should I have to have someone's potential body image problems at the front of my mind when contemplating what names to call them?

Class in smack-talk is like honor in fighting to me. Just something for people to pretend they're above. I have no such conceit. I've seen very classy people lose their minds and say the worst stuff. If some fat jokes aren't classy enough for you, I've gotta wonder what you say when you become totally unhinged, personally, because it's probably ugly and darker than pitch black.

I'm offended.

Don't worry too much about it Bob. It's just another goon trying to divert attention away from the fact that Goons now rent nullspace.

We were talking about local

Frankly, if you haven't figured out why antagonising someone's weight problems is not only a bad idea, but an actual terrible thing to do that has nothing to do with whether you're on EVE or not, then I'm not surprised that the smartest thing you can think of for smack talk is fat jokes.

Tell me, how unhinged is it to have no regard for the welfare of another human being? Making a fat joke at someone who might actually have insecurities about their weight is just bad, and it really does make you a bad person. Ganking them doesn't, blobbing them doesn't, etc, because that's the game, and that's the game they've chosen to play. They aren't playing it, however, to be randomly reminded of an issue that isn't really your place to remind them of. Are you a doctor? Nutritionist? Clinical psychologist? And what makes you think someone would be on EVE for weight advice?

I can target a person, and schmooze them, and drain them of every single asset they're dumb enough to part with. He whines about being suicidal gets mad, calls me a bunch of insane names, reports me, begs me, basically goes through the stages of grief, and as long as I don't confirm with him that he's a fat idiot, that's fine, regardless of the emotional state my actions have put him in.

Yet I can't call a person a mean name in local, because it might hurt their feelings or be thought of as offensive, and that will earn me a ban?