FW will not lock you out of Jita.

right, thanks for clearing that up. last of all, i hear people can make a hell of a lot of isk form lp, is there some secret to this or is it something i should just figure out/play around with myself?

This requires a basic understanding of maths, and it helps massively if you have a spreadsheet (yep, there it is. EVE, the Game of Spreadsheets) to help you keep track of it.

You will need to know the following things:
- The commodity you wish to sell (self explanatory)
- Your current LP (self explanatory)
- Batch size (the number of units of the commodity delivered per LP purchase)
- LP ber batch (the number of LP you need to pay per batch)
- Investment per batch (the amount of ISK you need to pay per batch)
- Item PPU in market hub (the rough amount of ISK per unit the commodity sells for in the market hub you wish to sell it in)

The equation in its raw form, then, is:

((item PPU * (units per batch * (current LP / LP ber batch))) - (investment per batch * (current LP / LP per batch))) / ((units per batch * (current LP / LP per batch)) * LP per batch) = ISK profit per LP spent

But of course this equation is a hideous monstrosity and way too awkward to block out all at once. It's much easier to split it into stages.

(your current LP / LP per batch) = number of batches
(number of batches * batch size) = number of units
(number of batches * investment per batch) = total ISK investment
(number of batches * LP ber patch) = total LP investment
(item PPU * number of units) = total return
(total return - total isk investment) = total profit
(total profit / total LP investment) = ISK profit per LP spent

"ISK profit per LP spent" is the number you want to maximize. If you want me to, I can send you a spreadsheet I built myself to do all the mathematical heavy lifting for me. Ideally, the way you maximize your ISK profit per LP spent is to find something that has a relatively low up-front ISK and LP investment, a high batch size and, optionally, something that's easy to transport. The ideal item for this is datacores, as they are small, cheap and sell well over their investment cost. However, the issue is that since LP stores provide a hell of a lot of datacores, it's very easy to exceed demand and saturate the market, crashing the price - as I discovered recently when I cashed in all my FDU LP for Electronic Engineering Datacores, sold 9,000 at 190,000 ISK a unit in Dodixie and dropped the price into the low 130,000s.

As with all other economical ventures, consider your investments very carefully! Work out if you're really getting the most bang for your buck (or in this case, LP), and remember that economics logic does not strictly follow real world logic - you can, for example, be said to have lost money that you never earned; if you use your LP to buy a commodity that has an inferior profit per LP to another commodity available on the LP store, you can be said to have lost that extra profit, even though it was never yours to begin with (this is known as an "opportunity cost")

I could write pages and pages about this stuff, but I think it's better if I leave it at this short primer, unless you have any further questions.

wow that was very extensive i appreciate the effort you took to write that man! sure ill add u ingame and maybe grab that excel sheet off ya thanks!

Hello,

I enlisted yesterday after having a chat with the people I've befriended ingame so far.

They told me about the standing hits and the like and how shopping in Jita would be rough.

But as mentioned, Gallente space has plenty of tradehubs and if you really want to shop in Jita, why not use a free character slot on your account (assuming you have one account only, based on the question asked), create a character that will train for an industrial ship only and park it in Jita?

You can have him/her move things for you and then contract it to your main character.

Or is such a thing not possible?

1 more thing. say im in gal fw, will it let me dock in amarr fw zone stations? am i only locked out of caldari fw stations? or both amar and caldari?

cool character pic btw

Thank you very much.

I spent 3 hours on her.

GÖÑ

It's really somewhat simple. Make a neutral alt with a hauler. Transport stuff to a system your gal fw main can dock and fly in. Use alt to scout main's hauler into lowsec. Because you are living in lowsec right?

Of course it's best to train the alt into BR.

There are options to having one character locked out of Jita. Get creative . .

This requires a basic understanding of maths, and it helps massively if you have a spreadsheet (yep, there it is. EVE, the Game of Spreadsheets) to help you keep track of it.

You will need to know the following things:
- The commodity you wish to sell (self explanatory)
- Your current LP (self explanatory)
- Batch size (the number of units of the commodity delivered per LP purchase)
- LP ber batch (the number of LP you need to pay per batch)
- Investment per batch (the amount of ISK you need to pay per batch)
- Item PPU in market hub (the rough amount of ISK per unit the commodity sells for in the market hub you wish to sell it in)

The equation in its raw form, then, is:

((item PPU * (units per batch * (current LP / LP ber batch))) - (investment per batch * (current LP / LP per batch))) / ((units per batch * (current LP / LP per batch)) * LP per batch) = ISK profit per LP spent

But of course this equation is a hideous monstrosity and way too awkward to block out all at once. It's much easier to split it into stages.

(your current LP / LP per batch) = number of batches
(number of batches * batch size) = number of units
(number of batches * investment per batch) = total ISK investment
(number of batches * LP ber patch) = total LP investment
(item PPU * number of units) = total return
(total return - total isk investment) = total profit
(total profit / total LP investment) = ISK profit per LP spent

"ISK profit per LP spent" is the number you want to maximize. If you want me to, I can send you a spreadsheet I built myself to do all the mathematical heavy lifting for me. Ideally, the way you maximize your ISK profit per LP spent is to find something that has a relatively low up-front ISK and LP investment, a high batch size and, optionally, something that's easy to transport. The ideal item for this is datacores, as they are small, cheap and sell well over their investment cost. However, the issue is that since LP stores provide a hell of a lot of datacores, it's very easy to exceed demand and saturate the market, crashing the price - as I discovered recently when I cashed in all my FDU LP for Electronic Engineering Datacores, sold 9,000 at 190,000 ISK a unit in Dodixie and dropped the price into the low 130,000s.

As with all other economical ventures, consider your investments very carefully! Work out if you're really getting the most bang for your buck (or in this case, LP), and remember that economics logic does not strictly follow real world logic - you can, for example, be said to have lost money that you never earned; if you use your LP to buy a commodity that has an inferior profit per LP to another commodity available on the LP store, you can be said to have lost that extra profit, even though it was never yours to begin with (this is known as an "opportunity cost")

I could write pages and pages about this stuff, but I think it's better if I leave it at this short primer, unless you have any further questions.

1 more thing. say im in gal fw, will it let me dock in amarr fw zone stations? am i only locked out of caldari fw stations? or both amar and caldari?

By far the sexiest post I will read today.

Always happy to help a member of the Gallente militia. I got sick of participating in FW myself a while ago, but I still want to see the FDU winning, and the easier and more efficient it is for FDU members to make money, the better equipped they'll be to fight STPRO.

Down with this sort of thing!