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Kairg
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:17:00 -
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I have just upgraded my CPU to an Athlon XP3200, and now EVE just closes (no error message, nothing) at seemingly random times. Has anybody else experienced this?
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Dr Shameless
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:18:00 -
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looks like its overheating or something
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Kairg
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:25:00 -
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But if it was overheating why would it go back to windows? Surely it would just crash everything, or restart.
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Valerek
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:38:00 -
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A CPU upgrade "should not" affect a game per se. Do you notice any other abnormalities after the upgrade?
You might just want to reinstall the Eve client and see what happens.
BTW, I have an Athlon64 3000 and experience no issues whatsoever. Mind you, Eve does "CTD" every once in a while but that's an unfortunate "known issue" with the client itself. 
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Kairg
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:45:00 -
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I haven't noticed any other problems. I never ever had a CTD in Eve before. Here is the info from the logserver:
110672006.01.05 20:36:43:320Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump being written in C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\logs\#crash b3796 2006.01.05 20.36.43.dmp
110682006.01.05 20:36:43:323Loaded C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\bin\DBGHELP.DLL
110692006.01.05 20:36:43:391MiniDump generated: C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\logs\#crash b3796 2006.01.05 20.36.43.dmp
110702006.01.05 20:36:43:391Exefile SHUTDOWN Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump written in C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\logs\#crash b3796 2006.01.05 20.36.43.dmp
It doesn't say much, except that it had written a memory dump.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.01.05 20:55:00 -
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Bit vague on what you were going from but since its an XP3200 I take it that you mean the Barton 3200 which has a 400mhz FSB which could possilby mean that your old CPU was a 333MHZ FSB which means your memory might be PC2700 ( aka DDR333 ) or OLDER PC3200 ( aka DDR400 ) and it simply cannot cope running at the timings of your memory controller.
It does sound like your memory is overheating or running way too tight. Run Memtest86+ ( google it, download premade iso from site, boot from cd and run test 5 and 8 for atleast 45 minutes ) and if you have memory problems loosen you timings.
2.5, 3, 3, 11 timings are what you should be looking at for SAFE settings if you are using a Nforce 2 chipset running in Dual Channel. A bit more info about your PC could result in a better explanation or diagnosis.
 Originally by: "Oveur"
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Kairg
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Posted - 2006.01.05 21:01:00 -
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Athlon XP3200
1gb DDR400 memory (2 x 512mb)
GeForce 6600 (AGP)
I upgraded from an XP2400 which had a 266 FSB. My memory has always been DDR400.
I did run memtest a couple of days ago. I only did a standard test though and it passed with no errors. I will try running it for 45 mins then.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.01.05 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kairg
Athlon XP3200
1gb DDR400 memory (2 x 512mb)
GeForce 6600 (AGP)
I upgraded from an XP2400 which had a 266 FSB. My memory has always been DDR400.
I did run memtest a couple of days ago. I only did a standard test though and it passed with no errors. I will try running it for 45 mins then.
What motherboard do you have and what memory sticks do you have? You could also try running Super Pi in windows for an hour or two to see if the actual system is stable under caculation load. I had the same thing happen about 2 years ago when I traded my Tbred XP2400+ up for a Barton 2800+ I would get errors and reboots and it was the DDR333 memory acting the fool even though it was DDR333 it wouldn't run stable at its claimed speed.
Originally by: "Oveur"
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Kairg
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Posted - 2006.01.05 21:09:00 -
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It's a Gigabyte 7VT600 1394 motherboard. According to SiSoft Sandra, my memory is running at 3.0-3-3-6.
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Captain Havoc
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Posted - 2006.01.05 21:48:00 -
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Hmm Could be - Paging file size, since eve now has a nice memory leak, could be your RAM or temp your sytem is running at or it could be the client itseld, have you tried going into drive:\CCP\eve\cache\settings and deleting the pc file then restarting the client, allowing it to write a new one? i have had that fix a few issues for me in the past, like changing RAM, video cards and many other upgrades i have done that eve seemed to get 'twitchy' about.
Hope i could help, if not, i would seriously look at adding some more case fans just to be sure.. 
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Torze
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Posted - 2006.01.05 22:18:00 -
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I doubt it is the actual CPU since I also use an Athlon XP 3200 and have had no problems playing EVE. However, the chip runs hot with the retail fan. So, if you overclocked it at all, it will cause issues. Could also be that your memory timings are not set with the timings of the CPU. The XP 3200 should be used with 400 ddr ram.
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Kairg
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Posted - 2006.01.05 23:19:00 -
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I have deleted the PC.dat file and it still happens. My system temp is at about 30 degrees C after it has been on all day. I might try adding a case fan. Thanks for your help anyway :)
I am using the retail fan which came with the CPU, and according to SpeedFan, my CPU temp reaches 60 degrees C when playing Eve. Although speedfan does report my system temp at 54 degrees so it could be wrong about the cpu too.
My RAM is DDR400, so no problems there.
I seriously doubt it's a heat related issue, as heat would cause the pc to lock up or restart, not quit a game and continue to run normally in windows?
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Captain Havoc
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Posted - 2006.01.05 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Havoc on 05/01/2006 23:46:13
Edited by: Captain Havoc on 05/01/2006 23:45:27
Aha! i've had games close randomly when my computer has hit 60 degrees ocasionaly in summer and i got 3 case fans setup for optimal heat removal from the CPU area, then again my motherbaord also start whinging at me about heat by beeping lots when it hits 60 degrees, think about investing $50 in case fans and another $100 in a nice new CPU heat sink and fan from ebay or your local 'hard-core techy computer shop'. if all else fails get the ram checked cause i have had any number of errors come from faulty RAM and random times and the errors were always different...
Also rememeber your CPU heats up with use, like your car if it's sitting idle it shouldn't heat up to much, same with a computer, when it's sitting idle, with nothing really taking any CPU time then it'll be cool, but once you open up a full blown application such as a game, it starts using every peice of the system to it's max, and it all goes through the CPU :D
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Zebler
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Posted - 2006.01.06 00:00:00 -
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I just found this topic, and its a bit late for me to get too specific.
I have had issues like this in the past, and solved mine doing the following.
1) Reduce CPU multiplier
2) Reduce FSB multiplier
3) Relax memory timings
You want to run the machine at about half of what its capable of.
Once thats done check stability. If that fixes it, then you know you have pushed something too hard (or something is not running as it should)/
Then its a case of just uping the rates till you find the limit.
There have been lots of known issues with NForce 2 boards not been able to run at 200FSB with memory in dual channel. Dropping the FSB to 166, and uping the CPU multipler to compensate can and has helped a lot of ppl in the past.
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Zebler
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Posted - 2006.01.06 00:01:00 -
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Also double check your heatsinks...not just the CPU, look at the north bridge ones too. You may have dislodged something when you were fiddling
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Dr Shameless
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Posted - 2006.01.06 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kairg
Athlon XP3200
1gb DDR400 memory (2 x 512mb)
GeForce 6600 (AGP)
i have exactly the same system, but my cpu is a barton 2500+ overclocked to 3200+ (forced to run at 200FSB). My motherboard is an nforce2 igp which doesnt natively support 200FSB but does it through a bios upgrade. My system runs fine and without CTDs if i keep the case open and have the room temperature under control :D
It can be that your two memory sticks arent from the same type ? If you had only 512 and later upgraded with a another different 512 stick, the timing differences between them dont show up at low speeds, but at high speeds it starts to make problems. I had to ditch my random 4x256 sticks for two new same 512
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Kairg
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:14:00 -
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My CPU's multiplier is set to 11.5 instead of 11 because of a fault with my motherboard (all 7VT600s have this problem apparently) so my cpu is overclocked by 100mhz, so that could be it. I may get a new heatsink and fan. (The computer doesn't work at all with the multiplier set to 11 or less).
Also the 2x512mb ram sticks I have are different. I know you shouldn't mix them but one was an xmas present and hence no reciept. According to SiSoft sandra again:
Memory module 1: Technology: 8x(64Mx8)
Speed: 3.0-3-3-8
Memory module 2: Technology: 16x(32Mx8)
Speed: 2.5-3-3-8
The speed timings are set to 3.0-3-3-6.
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Zoriander
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kairg
I have just upgraded my CPU to an Athlon XP3200, and now EVE just closes (no error message, nothing) at seemingly random times. Has anybody else experienced this?
On hardware changes do remove the file ccp\eve\cache\settings\pc.dat
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Kairg
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:34:00 -
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I have, and it didn't work.
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Kairg
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Posted - 2006.01.06 11:35:00 -
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I don't know if this is relevant, but Unreal II just closes randomly too, although it does come up with an error message. HL2 runs fine though, and never crashes.
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