Answering in reverse order because the replies beg it.

Me getting more money for salvage that's worth more because there's less of it is in no way beneficial to me. Inflation would be seen across the board from that. Not only would the rigs I use to fit my ships cost more, so would PLEX and modules and ships.

Lowering the amount of ships in missions but retaining the same amount of salvage and loot from them would work, but then entirely new NPC's would have to be introduced exclusive to missions. Otherwise ratting would become incredibly lucrative and flood the market with with minerals and salvage. And you couldn't just use more expensive modules to compensate monetarily, that would still screw the mineral market. They had to adjust NPC drones for this very reason.

The problem with making missions more about LP and less about isk reward and bounties is that then the market will become saturated with LP items and the prices will plummet.

You could increase the number of missions 10 fold, but eventually they'll get stale as people run them over and over. As long as the game relies on a static mission pool created by CCP the problem isn't going to go away.

A 'mission editor', for lack of a better term, that allows players to create pve content is really whats needed.

Hello,

i fully agree with you that there must be something to be done with missions. I believe that much more missions, mainly in level 4 should be added and also one or two more epic arcs. Especially the level 4 get very repetitive after a short while.

I am thinking though that we (as players) could help on this subject. I have a proposal :

I don't know though whether Developers/Designers of EVE would take into consideration such proposals, but we could start a thread of designing/describing for example one level 4 mission that would like to be added in EVE. With details such, Ships, Structures, limitations, stages, triggers, gates, NPCs, distances, possible drops and some lore text that is to included in the mission, anything that is needed. Developers could take this as raw material, tailor them as needed and include them in a patch! we don't have to be on the quantity side : one very good designed mission one can propose is more than enough.

What do you say?


Thanks

For one thing, the mineral market is not very sensitive to the amount of loot in missions. I think. I am willing to be taught otherwise, but I would think that most minerals on the market comes from mining, not from reprocessed loot. No inflation there, and thus no inflation to anything but rigs. And rigs are a minor part of ship expenses. I think. For most players. Therefore, you get somewhat less from reprocessing loot, but increased prices of salvage might make up for that, and then some. I don't know the relative share of your income from loot and salvage compute, but if salvage is reduced by a third and prices double, you will probably come out ahead.I have no firm statistics to underpin this, it is a hunch, and I may be wrong.

If randomising the missions would affect the loot tables so much how about introducing new loot? such as collectible trading cards of all ships in the game. These could be made through bps, bought through lp, and found from rats.

You could even make it into a sort of in game trading card game to give miners something to do while they mine.

I dont know all the specifics its just an idea. what do you think... terrible?

I had expected that the EVE missions, and really, all the PvE stuff would follow the same harsh rules of the rest of the EVE universe, I was actually surprised when it did not.

A mission should not have agent penalties

Are you talking about standing penalties from opposing factions or penalties if you fail a mission?

The fact you take standing hits.

I think this was ONLY to stop people cherry-picking missions - I don't have an issue with that - but surely we can come up with a better overall system that makes that a non issue.

Boys and girls, this http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19034656 is why no self respecting carebear will run lvl 5 missions in lowsec with a 14 BILLION+ ratting ship no matter what the nullbears say. Well, I should say, most self respecting carebears that have had their rear end handed to them once or twice before.

Want a laugh? Read the comments.....

The fact you take standing hits.

I think this was ONLY to stop people cherry-picking missions - I don't have an issue with that - but surely we can come up with a better overall system that makes that a non issue.

Boys and girls, this http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19034656 is why no self respecting carebear will run lvl 5 missions in lowsec with a 14 BILLION+ ratting ship no matter what the nullbears say. Well, I should say, most self respecting carebears that have had their rear end handed to them once or twice before.

Want a laugh? Read the comments.....

Player created missions are the way to go. There could be certain parameters (ie no more than xx mil total bounties for a lvl 4). Have a rating system upon completion. Also, allow players to make pvp missions.

Yes they do :) and it is on our to-do list.. but the content revamp is going to be a long process.

Yes they do :) and it is on our to-do list.. but the content revamp is going to be a long process.

Also while missioning in amarr space u get the odd guristas or angels mission. Are these there to promt players into cross training or to go for amarr missile boats?

If theres no real reason for these to be there could they be removed please. It makes growing up as an amarr particularly annoying becuase these missions can be really tough becuase u simply cannot damage the enemies enough.

Im thinking of new players in particuilar with low level of sp and most of thier gunnery sp in lasers. what are they to do versus guristas and angels?

Admittedly its not so much of an issue in level 1,2 or 3 mission IF you have T2 guns. but again thinking of low sp pilots they are unlikely to have this.

And in level 4's you can forget about em/thermal damage vs guristas and angels.

New players running level 4's? Anyway, decline them and move to a different agent if you get too many declines. Same as you do in any empire where you get an odd faction mission. Run it or don't.

Whats the problem with my idea?