I am having the same problem. Battleships that usually die in 2 shots are surviving with 2 blocks of hull remaining, cruisers that usually die in 1 shot are surviving with 2 blocks of hull too. Missions are now taking twice as long.

i just noticed this since the new patch 1.1 . I am flya golem and after doing a few l4 missions, i noticed many battleships would at times not die with about 5% hull hp left sometimes i even shoot a volley or 2 at it and it still wouldnt die. This happens at random i say about 30% . But overall it is a pain to have to waste an extra volley just to finish that tiny 5% hull hp. i never noticed this before the patch. did they do something to the cruise missles or change the npc ?? btw these were all Angels. havnt tried other faction npcs.

I am having the same problem. Battleships that usually die in 2 shots are surviving with 2 blocks of hull remaining, cruisers that usually die in 1 shot are surviving with 2 blocks of hull too. Missions are now taking twice as long.

In addition to this it seems that if they regen even 1 hp of shields it will soak up ALL dmg from your volley without bleeding into armor/structure while 2nd volley applies dmg as normal, confirmed this when fightings against guristas/rogue drones, probably happens with other factions as well. Don't know if it's cruise missile problem only, someone might want to check this out with lasers/hybrids/projectiles.

Ships and other space objects were getting destroyed if their structure hitpoints received 50% or more damage of the current health in a single shot. This feature has been removed entirely.

they said something like this on the patch notes, and I was confused in what it actually means.

from http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-odyssey-1.1 section gameplay:



I was wondering whether this means that you can no longer volley a ship with e.g. a tornado?

I may be mistaken, but I believe the answer is that you can still one-shot targets, albeit it might be more difficult as you now have to do legitimately enough damage to kill the target in that shot rather than nearly enough. This is, yes, an intended change in the mechanics. However, from what I've heard, CCP is aware of a different bug that invalidates a normally killing shot. I've seen people claim that it seems that on occasion (at least with rats), targets with very low remaining structure are not dying to what should be the last salvo. I've seen this as well on my own, where the damage from your weapons/drones suddenly drop off to some ridiculously low number or even to zero, forcing you to have to fire another salvo to finish off the target. Rats not dying to one-shot hits as frequently as they use to are fine, as CCP intended this change, but this other bug is actually more frustrating, making rats that should die in one/two salvos are in fact taking at least two additional salvos.

Golem (T2 CML, 2 RF TPs, 2 T2 Rigors) vs. Random BS rat (100% shields, armor, hull, doesn't rep only regen shields)
Salvo 1: does 4500 damage, shields gone, armor down to say 45%
Salvo 2: does 5000 damage (more from armor damage leaking into structure), armor gone, structure down to 8%
Salvo 3: does 34 damage (no, I'm not kidding), structure remains at 8%
Salvo 4: does 305 damage, remaining 8% collapses, rat finally dies

Any news on when this is going to get fixed? i am at a point where i stop doing missions until they patch this thing out. It is very frustrating seeing npcs with a hair of hull left needing an extra salvo or sometimes 2 to kill it

I may be mistaken, but I believe the answer is that you can still one-shot targets, albeit it might be more difficult as you now have to do legitimately enough damage to kill the target in that shot rather than nearly enough. This is, yes, an intended change in the mechanics. However, from what I've heard, CCP is aware of a different bug that invalidates a normally killing shot. I've seen people claim that it seems that on occasion (at least with rats), targets with very low remaining structure are not dying to what should be the last salvo. I've seen this as well on my own, where the damage from your weapons/drones suddenly drop off to some ridiculously low number or even to zero, forcing you to have to fire another salvo to finish off the target. Rats not dying to one-shot hits as frequently as they use to are fine, as CCP intended this change, but this other bug is actually more frustrating, making rats that should die in one/two salvos are in fact taking at least two additional salvos.

Golem (T2 CML, 2 RF TPs, 2 T2 Rigors) vs. Random BS rat (100% shields, armor, hull, doesn't rep only regen shields)
Salvo 1: does 4500 damage, shields gone, armor down to say 45%
Salvo 2: does 5000 damage (more from armor damage leaking into structure), armor gone, structure down to 8%
Salvo 3: does 34 damage (no, I'm not kidding), structure remains at 8%
Salvo 4: does 305 damage, remaining 8% collapses, rat finally dies

i just noticed this since the new patch 1.1 . I am flya golem and after doing a few l4 missions, i noticed many battleships would at times not die with about 5% hull hp left sometimes i even shoot a volley or 2 at it and it still wouldnt die. This happens at random i say about 30% . But overall it is a pain to have to waste an extra volley just to finish that tiny 5% hull hp. i never noticed this before the patch. did they do something to the cruise missles or change the npc ?? btw these were all Angels. havnt tried other faction npcs.

Guess the devs are not that interested in missions anymore. Playing since 08 and missions are pretty much the same. They are maybe balancing other things for null sector.....
We will probably see missions balanced in the future but that doesn't mean for the better.

This is actually a legacy code where the system for damaging player ships was also used for damaging NPCs, even if damage seeping through Structure has no relevance for NPCs - if the damage seeps through structure on NPCs it basically just goes away, as there are no modules to damage.

i suggest ungrouping your weapons, see if that is a workarounddoes this mean that if I have 24% shield and 1% structure, and enough damage gets through my shields to bring me below 0% structure, that my modules will take damage?

Waaaayyy back when (before the game came out) the chance of blowing up in structure was much less aggressive, so you could stay low in structure much longer. At that time module damage due to seeping had more relevance than it has today (and structure tanking was a thing, of sorts )

Yes, that's true, but you tend not to notice this because when damage starts to seep through your structure to damage your modules is usually the same time your ship blows up. Waaaayyy back when (before the game came out) the chance of blowing up in structure was much less aggressive, so you could stay low in structure much longer. At that time module damage due to seeping had more relevance than it has today (and structure tanking was a thing, of sorts )

i suggest ungrouping your weapons, see if that is a workaround

Yes, that's true, but you tend not to notice this because when damage starts to seep through your structure to damage your modules is usually the same time your ship blows up. Waaaayyy back when (before the game came out) the chance of blowing up in structure was much less aggressive, so you could stay low in structure much longer. At that time module damage due to seeping had more relevance than it has today (and structure tanking was a thing, of sorts )