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Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
3030
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:50:00 -
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Hey guys,
Considering CCP's new approach at making this game new player friendly (Playable by more 12 year old splurging spastics) We have now been introduced to a new way of layout out skills.
Following the new pattern of putting skills that affect fitting into the engineering into an engineering tab ect,, Does it really make sense that skills with different attributes are also in the same tab.
examples:
Weapon Upgrades: Perception Memory Advanced Weapon Upgrades: Perception Willpower
compared to
CPU Managment: Inteligence Memory
Literaly makes no sence.
Please think about all aspects of the changes you make in future. instead of directly focusing on making the skills system dribbler proof.
Please discuss your grievances below. -áGÖÑ-á
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I Was There
Nigerian Drug Manufactory co. xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
71
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:57:00 -
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I liked the old one better. It made me feel good, when browsing through all the categories to find the right skill. |

Pap Uhotih
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:04:00 -
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It does help in understanding what the skill will effect which is a plus especially for new players. However I agree that it is a little bit of a mind fornication to try and work out at a glance what you are mapped for. I think in the short term it is helpful but in the mid term I think players may find they have 'lost' skill points through assumptions. With all of five attributes could Initials or a colour wheel or traffic lights not appear next to the skill to indicate its mapping at a glance. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1361
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:09:00 -
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god forbid the game should help newbies figure out what's going on |

Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
460
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:11:00 -
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Set your attributes flat across the board.
Never worry about what your attributes are ever again.

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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1361
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:11:00 -
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also please remove 'spastic' from your post it's a hurtful and outdated word |

Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
3030
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:11:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:god forbid the game should help newbies figure out what's going on God forbid they ask someone who knows how the skill system works. Now no one knows where to find x skill off the top of their head.
Communication in an MMO.... NEVER! -áGÖÑ-á
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3626
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:11:00 -
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I didn't actually notice that, but I've only ever remapped twice anyway. One for drones & whatever else it's optimal for, the second for gunnery/missiles/spaceships The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Unraveller Chase
The Imperial Order of the Dragon
9
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:13:00 -
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If things were that organized the spastic 12 year olds would be too powerful. |

Alexander Golitsyn
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:17:00 -
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Vets will only be happy if they removed the skillque, and made it so skills to train get picked at random.
otherwise the game is not cold and harsh enough. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1361
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:18:00 -
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Princess Saskia wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:god forbid the game should help newbies figure out what's going on God forbid they ask someone who knows how the skill system works. Now no one knows where to find x skill off the top of their head. Communication in an MMO.... NEVER! sounds like you're having trouble with finding armour skills in the 'armour' category. guess it ain't ~dribblerproof~
complication that doesn't add to gameplay is a wall between newbies and fun, and a detriment to the game |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3414
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:28:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:also please remove 'spastic' from your post it's a hurtful and outdated word
No it's not, and it's quite accurate when describing average 12 year olds, who are over-excitable, clumsy, and hyperactive.
Maybe you meant the American slang: "Spaz"?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
168
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:31:00 -
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Princess Saskia wrote:Hey guys,
Considering CCP's new approach at making this game new player friendly (Playable by more 12 year old splurging spastics) We have now been introduced to a new way of layout out skills.
Following the new pattern of putting skills that affect fitting into the engineering into an engineering tab ect,, Does it really make sense that skills with different attributes are also in the same tab.
examples:
Weapon Upgrades: Perception Memory Advanced Weapon Upgrades: Perception Willpower
compared to
CPU Managment: Inteligence Memory
Literaly makes no sense.
Please think about all aspects of the changes you make in future. instead of directly focusing on making the skills system dribbler proof.
Please discuss your grievances below.
So... are you having trouble with it?
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1362
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:33:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:also please remove 'spastic' from your post it's a hurtful and outdated word No it's not, and it's quite accurate when describing average 12 year olds, who are over-excitable, clumsy, and hyperactive. Maybe you meant the American slang: "Spaz"? it's an old word used to describe people with cerebral palsy, but people began using it in a derogatory manner. it's unfairly hurtful. |

Rengerel en Distel
1831
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:42:00 -
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So you'd rather have the Subsets be: Intelligence & Memory Memory & Intelligence etc.
Can see why you're probably not a lead designer of an MMO. Also, the skill changes were one of the first things they discussed about 1.1, so you had months to bring up your concerns.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3414
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:42:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:also please remove 'spastic' from your post it's a hurtful and outdated word No it's not, and it's quite accurate when describing average 12 year olds, who are over-excitable, clumsy, and hyperactive. Maybe you meant the American slang: "Spaz"? it's an old word used to describe people with cerebral palsy, but people began using it in a derogatory manner. it's unfairly hurtful.
So, you do realize words have different meanings in different lands, and have slang variants?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1363
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:47:00 -
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that doesn't excuse its use when you're told it's hurtful |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1324
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:49:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:also please remove 'spastic' from your post it's a hurtful and outdated word No it's not, and it's quite accurate when describing average 12 year olds, who are over-excitable, clumsy, and hyperactive. Maybe you meant the American slang: "Spaz"? it's an old word used to describe people with cerebral palsy, but people began using it in a derogatory manner. it's unfairly hurtful.
If people with cerebral palsy are indeed being spastic, then the descriptor is accurate. If they are not, then it is not. Do not try and dilute or destroy language merely because a select group attempts to appropriate an otherwise harmless word for their own hurtful uses. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1363
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:55:00 -
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no-one uses it to desribe people with cerebral palsy anymore, because people had started to use it as an insult. this was twenty years ago. i'm sure you can think of other words that have changed in meaning over the years. language isn't something defined by a dictionary, it is always changing. |

Ressiv
The Scope Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:03:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:that doesn't excuse its use when you're told it's hurtful Bullshit. It hurts a lot of ppl's poow feelings when I deny there are such things as godesses and gods when they try to bestow his blessing onto me ... they have the right to be offended tho .. one of the wonders of free speech .. you can find it distastefull .. but tbh, that's your issue. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3414
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:04:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:that doesn't excuse its use when you're told it's hurtful
If your delicate sensibilities are so easy offended by a word with more than one meaning, posted in a thread that wasn't even directed at you personally, and not used to make the kind of reference you think it was, you should petition CCP to add it to the bad word filter.
I guess we all have to stop using the word "skip" too, since that might offend you as well? The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Obvious Cyno
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
66
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:04:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:no-one uses it to desribe people with cerebral palsy anymore, because people had started to use it as an insult. this was twenty years ago. i'm sure you can think of other words that have changed in meaning over the years. language isn't something defined by a dictionary, it is always changing.
I am spasticus!
No one cares. Seriously. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1324
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:06:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:no-one uses it to desribe people with cerebral palsy anymore, because people had started to use it as an insult. this was twenty years ago. i'm sure you can think of other words that have changed in meaning over the years. language isn't something defined by a dictionary, it is always changing.
Indeed it is. And it's up to people who use the language properly to not allow otherwise acceptable words to fall out of use simply because someone decides that one day they'll use it as an epithet. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Forum Mcforum
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:06:00 -
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hey. just to make it clear, i have petitioned this thread, and i will do again - but asking for a account ban.
i find this as bad as racism..........
yes maybe you think im over reacting - but if i used the word "n***er" im sure i would get banned.... yet some cultures accept it, the modern world doest (apart from rap)
lack of education isnt a excuse |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3414
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:08:00 -
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Forum Mcforum wrote:hey. just to make it clear, i have petitioned this thread, and i will do again - but asking for a account ban.
i find this as bad as racism..........
yes maybe you think im over reacting - but if i used the word "n***er" im sure i would get banned.... yet some cultures accept it, the modern world doest (apart from rap)
lack of education isnt a excuse
A white knight appears...
I suggest referencing a dictionary before getting all worked up, you know, to educate yourself. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1324
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:09:00 -
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Forum Mcforum wrote:
lack of education isnt a excuse
Obviously not. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Ressiv
The Scope Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:10:00 -
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Forum Mcforum wrote:hey. just to make it clear, i have petitioned this thread, and i will do again - but asking for a account ban.
i find this as bad as racism..........
yes maybe you think im over reacting - but if i used the word "n***er" im sure i would get banned.... yet some cultures accept it, the modern world doest (apart from rap)
lack of education isnt a excuse How is describing certain behaviour as 'spastic' like racism ? |

Forum Mcforum
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:10:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Forum Mcforum wrote:hey. just to make it clear, i have petitioned this thread, and i will do again - but asking for a account ban.
i find this as bad as racism..........
yes maybe you think im over reacting - but if i used the word "n***er" im sure i would get banned.... yet some cultures accept it, the modern world doest (apart from rap)
lack of education isnt a excuse A white knight appears... I suggest referencing a dictionary before getting all worked up, you know, to educate yourself.
sorry my friend, i actually have a learning difficulty , which technically 20+ years ago would have classified me as a spastic - yet my education would have deemed me as upper class
(ressive, racism was a example, i could be homophobic - again something ccp choose to ignore - but im not bringing that up) |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1364
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:10:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:no-one uses it to desribe people with cerebral palsy anymore, because people had started to use it as an insult. this was twenty years ago. i'm sure you can think of other words that have changed in meaning over the years. language isn't something defined by a dictionary, it is always changing. Indeed it is. And it's up to people who use the language properly to not allow otherwise acceptable words to fall out of use simply because someone decides that one day they'll use it as an epithet. there's no such thing as 'properly' when it comes to language. people use it as they will, and what's considered correct changes. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1364
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:12:00 -
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and right now, it is an offensive word. |
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