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Zheng Kai
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:25:00 -
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http://soulogic.com/eve/jumpcal.html
If you have any suggestions, reply me please  |
Ressiv
The Scope
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:27:00 -
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I suggest you add a description on what that angle is about for the numnuts like me who go "... ehm" after inputting a number between 1 and 99 and pressing the button ... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3368
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:28:00 -
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What exactly is going on here? |
Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet
Northern Coalition.
85
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:29:00 -
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What |
Azurae
South West Trading
103
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:51:00 -
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your math is wrong |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3858
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Posted - 2013.09.04 18:45:00 -
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Please accept my apology.
I'm sorry, but i have no idea what this is for.
Gladly, i'm not the only one.
Care to enlighten us ? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16305
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Posted - 2013.09.04 18:52:00 -
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The concept seems to be GÇ£if your target is 100km ahead, at what off-target angle do you need to aim in order to MJD to a given distance from that target?GÇ¥
Iow, if you want to arrive at 1km, just jump straight at him. If you want to arrive at 100km (rather than just sit still), jump off 60-¦ to the side, thereby describing an equilateral triangle between your original position, the target position, and the destination position.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Press TabQuick
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.09.04 18:54:00 -
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Seems clear to me. Its a calculator to help someone us the LMWD to an object less than 100km away.
point A is 50km away. You cant use the LMJD to get to it cause you would end up 50km past it.
So you use the LMJD to get to point B fist then jump again to A.
Whats so hard to understand about that? |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
2685
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Posted - 2013.09.04 18:58:00 -
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Press TabQuick wrote:Seems clear to me. Its a calculator to help someone us the LMWD to an object less than 100km away.
point A is 50km away. You cant use the LMJD to get to it cause you would end up 50km past it.
So you use the LMJD to get to point B fist then jump again to A.
Whats so hard to understand about that?
The real question is, where would you get the angle to do it with? its not as if the overview says you are 75 degrees offset from an object.
Apparently hard for most because most people never figured it out...in a game about figuring things out lol.
It's not hard to do, but I can see how a tool like that can save you some mission/complex time. I tend to dual prob mwd and mjd so i don't fuss with triangle jumping much. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3859
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:26:00 -
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This is all just speculation.
It could as well be used to intercept a fast moving ship using the MJD.
We have no idea how or why the angle is used, at all.
I want to know why the angle is relevant. If there is something plain obvious i simply have been missing.
I only found one great tactic to use with the MJD, so far, and running away is not considered a tactic here. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
151
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:13:00 -
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Press TabQuick wrote:Seems clear to me. Its a calculator to help someone us the LMWD to an object less than 100km away.
point A is 50km away. You cant use the LMJD to get to it cause you would end up 50km past it.
So you use the LMJD to get to point B fist then jump again to A.
Whats so hard to understand about that?
The real question is, where would you get the angle to do it with? its not as if the overview says you are 75 degrees offset from an object.
Side A of the triangle is your distance from the other ship, Side B is the distance you want to land from that ship calulating a jump range of 100km. you know 2 distances and that the inside angles will add to 180 degrees.
So find the equation and do the math from there.
I guess you would need the combat overlay on to try to estimate vector angle. |
Mac Munoz
Only One Corp
6
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:00:00 -
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Pretty handy tool. I wonder if it would be best just create some sort of graph that can easily see the angle without having to calculate it, as the angle will always be the same from a given distance. |
Enduros
Ostian Industries
Hand of Despair
28
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:45:00 -
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This is useless, doesn't even have the capacity to teach someone who is clueless about geometry. You can't input degrees anywhere in game and you pretty much eyeball it in game when using this mechanic.
Select your target
Bring up tactical
Eyeball mid point in that line
Imagine a 90 degree line crossing it to 100km
Align to that point at 100km
Jump
Everyone should be able to figure this out. If they can't your tool sure as hell isn't gonna help anyone. |
Zheng Kai
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.05 03:38:00 -
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Enduros wrote:This is useless, doesn't even have the capacity to teach someone who is clueless about geometry. You can't input degrees anywhere in game and you pretty much eyeball it in game when using this mechanic.
Select your target
Bring up tactical
Eyeball mid point in that line
Imagine a 90 degree line crossing it to 100km
Align to that point at 100km
Jump
Everyone should be able to figure this out. If they can't your tool sure as hell isn't gonna help anyone. Oh yes, sine rule, I forgot it ToT |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
491
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Posted - 2013.09.05 05:57:00 -
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Tactical overlay needs protractor. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
4055
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:15:00 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Tactical overlay needs protractor.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1042
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Posted - 2013.09.05 10:22:00 -
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Press TabQuick wrote:point A is 50km away. You cant use the LMJD to get to it cause you would end up 50km past it.
So you use the LMJD to get to point B fist then jump again to A.
Whats so hard to understand about that?
In what situation would have the time to do two MJD jumps without the target moving? |
Enduros
Ostian Industries
Hand of Despair
29
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Posted - 2013.09.05 10:44:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Press TabQuick wrote:point A is 50km away. You cant use the LMJD to get to it cause you would end up 50km past it.
So you use the LMJD to get to point B fist then jump again to A.
Whats so hard to understand about that?
In what situation would have the time to do two MJD jumps without the target moving?
Only in PvE. Like when you have gates far away from warp-in and you don't feel like slowboating. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1727
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Posted - 2013.09.05 10:56:00 -
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As old time player of Silent Hunter III*, I understand what he does... but EVE is not that accurate, neither measuring angles nor distances nor the "double click" navigation itself. And then you got 3D to compound complexity.
*plotting an interception course and finding the convoy right where you expected it, when you expected it, was... rawrr. 
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MEZZA Creire-Geng
TEC-NOLOGY
9
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Posted - 2013.09.05 11:25:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:As old time player of Silent Hunter III*, I understand what he does.
thumbs for just playing SH3.. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
1281
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Posted - 2013.09.05 11:40:00 -
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or just spend a few hours using it constantly and get the hang of it.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16310
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Posted - 2013.09.05 12:00:00 -
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Also, between a website and just doing acos(distance/200), I feel the latter is a bit quickerGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Roime
Ten Thousand Years
Shinjiketo
3328
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Posted - 2013.09.05 12:02:00 -
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Do people actually resort to maths for this kind of **** :DDD
90% of EVE-O posts are read in Cartman voice by the common screen reader programs.-á |
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