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Secksitime Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.09.09 00:10:00 - [31] - Quote Pretty sure you didn't read the TOS. 18. You may not publish private communications from CCP, their agents or representatives or EVE Online volunteers without authorization.
Ayced Anneto Alt Coalition Fleet 1	Posted - 2013.09.09 00:24:00 - [32] - Quote Secksitime wrote: Pretty sure you didn't read the TOS. 18. You may not publish private communications from CCP, their agents or representatives or EVE Online volunteers without authorization. Are you sure that's not assuming you try to disguise as one of them? Doesn't sound fair not to be allowed to quote devs and gm's to get your words right
Jon Matick Semper Ubi Sub Ubi 16	Posted - 2013.09.09 00:37:00 - [33] - Quote You can't rename your character for the same reason you can't wipe your employment history: In EVE, reputation and history matter.
Ayced Anneto Alt Coalition Fleet 1	Posted - 2013.09.09 00:38:00 - [34] - Quote Jon Matick wrote: You can't rename your character for the same reason you can't wipe your employment history: In EVE, reputation and history matter. Read my first post please
Tydeth Gilitae Magewright Artificers 23	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:14:00 - [35] - Quote Ayced Anneto wrote: Secksitime wrote: Pretty sure you didn't read the TOS. 18. You may not publish private communications from CCP, their agents or representatives or EVE Online volunteers without authorization. Are you sure that's not assuming you try to disguise as one of them? Doesn't sound fair not to be allowed to quote devs and gm's to get your words right The line makes no distinction between disguising or otherwise. PMs/EveMails/Petitions are not to be copy-pasted if you don't first get the permission from the staff personnel in question, in this case GM Prometheus. CCP also doesn't discriminate between the EVE Online game/forum environments and third-party sites like blogs and such, as one player found out when he was instructed under no uncertain terms that he had to remove a post with petition responses from his blog.
MeestaPenni Nova Force 282	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:40:00 - [36] - Quote I have a great idea. Make sure you start with a name you can live with. Then, make sure you don't do something monumentally boneheaded causing you to regret the nom de plume you're known by. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 5757	Posted - 2013.09.09 01:51:00 - [37] - Quote MeestaPenni wrote: I have a great idea. Make sure you start with a name you can live with. Because people never change their minds. My Youtube Channel Latest video: August 25, 2013
Sarmatiko 1425	Posted - 2013.09.09 06:28:00 - [38] - Quote Jon Matick wrote: You can't rename your character for the same reason you can't wipe your employment history: In EVE, reputation and history matter. You can rename your character and you can't wipe renaming history, so even that small 1% of players who actually care about other player name history (recruit officers) will be satisfied. The point is that most people don't give a **** about random-dude-in-local reputation or name. Even awoxers with same name stealing everything from different corporations over and over again, and no one care to check their reputation. -¥
Hemmo Paskiainen Aliastra Gallente Federation 425	Posted - 2013.09.09 07:24:00 - [39] - Quote I bought this character and i was like: hmm Hemmo Paskiainen sounds like ok. Untill i got convo'd or mailed atleast twice a day by finnish people asking if i was finnish... somtimes free invites into finnish corps aswell. So one day i asked why, and a guy said that my name meant 'son of a ***' in finnish... If i had a character named 'son of a ***' in engish it would have been renamend a lonong time ago. The point of this all is yhat i bought a character that violate the rules of the eula character policy without knowing it and i run the risk to be stuck with the name 'gallente chitezain #####'. How about that.. CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS [url]http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9679/whatihavedoneineve.jpg[/url]
Anomaly One State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.09.09 07:56:00 - [40] - Quote Buying a character or having alts is much different than having your name changed, each take considerable amount of time or isk. Now it's, spoiled reputation and regret it ? want to join null sec again but no one will accept you, you will have to have trained an alt besides you with the same skills to recuperate for your lost reputation and if you didn't you would have to start over again if reputation meant that much to you. Buy a character? so you dumped 2bill, 3bill, 60bill, how much more Unless you have a handful of alts each one trained to replace your main or an insane amount of isk to dump into the character bazaar these changes limit you to either create/hop into your alt or spend the isk to "start" over with a hopefully clean sheet. If character name changes are implemented no matter how deep you dug into you're only one step away from starting over by changing your name, and let's face it putting $$$ is always easier than training up a character or making isk to buy one, this change would not make CCP more money infact they might lose a bit, since with name changes implemented some players would no longer need an alt to do their dirty work because after they've done it they'll just change back there names, and adding a list of their previous names isn't gonna solve anything if your name was "*** Mcslappin" you change it to something decent and a list can still show your previous names people will just look it up and call you "*** Mcslappin" because they can and you effectively solved nothing.

Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Suddenly Spaceships. 807	Posted - 2013.09.09 08:03:00 - [41] - Quote Absolutely AGAINST renameing for whatever cost. You could basicly apply to a corp, steal everything you can grab or kill blues in missions, get kicked, rename and repeat until you get bored. It is already possible to put up fake charackter sale threads to disguise to holder of the toon. "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
The Spod Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 64	Posted - 2013.09.09 08:50:00 - [42] - Quote Name changes? Never. Old name deletion? Never. If you didn't manage to snag a good name like "LOL", you do not deserve it. Reputation following from bazaar? Buyer beware.
Cpt Tirel Tyrfing Industries Viro Mors Non Est 49	Posted - 2013.09.09 09:00:00 - [43] - Quote Just charge real money for namechange instead of PLEX to prevent rich people from changing their name every other week.
Sarmatiko 1425	Posted - 2013.09.09 09:11:00 - [44] - Quote Eugene Kerner wrote: Absolutely AGAINST renameing for whatever cost. You could basicly apply to a corp, steal everything you can grab or kill blues in missions, get kicked, rename and repeat until you get bored. Are you blind or something? Name change log available even in China now. If some idiot recruit officer or director invites shady dude and gives him corp privileges without even gathering basic information (such as previous names) - he deserves to be scammed. -¥
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3677	Posted - 2013.09.09 09:22:00 - [45] - Quote John Ratcliffe wrote: The OP has a point - CCP are not being reasonable. If one assumes that a character is an extension of the player and they will not rename because that allows the character to take on a new 'form', then I fail to see how selling a character to another player is any different. Actually, the rules are pretty clear about this. When you buy a character it's against the rules to pretend to be the (or any) previous owner. CCP Spitfire wrote: The new owner of the character may NOT pass himself off as any previous owner. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are.
Miles Parabellum Zealots of Bob 37	Posted - 2013.09.09 09:25:00 - [46] - Quote Why not just take this to the logical extreme and allow skill points to be traded as a commodity? ... It's what people want, but don't know how to say.
culo duro The Bootcamp EveryoneVersusEveryone.com. 261	Posted - 2013.09.09 09:32:00 - [47] - Quote I love this thread, so far it seems all the people that are against haven't bothered to actually read the thread before replying. Claiming that it can be abused even though several posters have suggested several times that there should be a naming history. Honestly i couldn't see the bad part... i don't know spanish and my name means Hard Ass... i mean cmon. All CCP would have to do is to add another tab to the character sheet, which is named something like "Name History", i don't see how it could become a problem if you got a name history on characters. On another note, i don't get why CCP doesn't do this, it would be a great way for them to earn more irl isk. As other people stated there's the character bazaar... So you could just sell your character... and buy a new one, but that's okay right? But something like changing your name while it actually get's branded on you wouldn't? I'm sorry but that does not really seem like a reasonable argument to NOT to implent a character renaming service. Most of eve is alts hiding behind alts.
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3677	Posted - 2013.09.09 09:43:00 - [48] - Quote Cpt Tirel wrote: Just charge real money for namechange instead of PLEX to prevent rich people from changing their name every other week. Implyting that rich people are actually poor. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are.
Sable Moran Moran Light Industries 226	Posted - 2013.09.09 09:48:00 - [49] - Quote Hemmo Paskiainen wrote: my name meant 'son of a *****' in finnish Hemmo is a regular male name nothing odd there, at most it could be considered somewhat old fashioned. The second part is where issues might rise. But please note that the word isn't from the worse end of the spectrum. It can even be used to convey positive connotations in select situations. Also a slightly more accurate translation would be shithead. Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Labs Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene.
Terrorfrodo Renegade Hobbits for Mordor 578	Posted - 2013.09.09 10:01:00 - [50] - Quote More important than name changes, CCP should purge a couple hundred thousand characters from the database to release their names for use. After 10 years, so many characters have been made, only to be biomassed again, or on accounts that have not been used in five years. I assume millions of people have tried EVE at some point and used up good names, only to realize after two days that EVE is not for them. How about they rename every character that has not been on an active account for more than three years and has less than 10m skillpoints. I bet that would be several million names. The old chars would continue to exist, with names like GallenteCitizen12345678 but their former names become available for new characters. .

Tron 3K Ship Spinning Industries 74	Posted - 2013.09.09 10:59:00 - [51] - Quote Sarmatiko wrote: EVE Online in China already have Character Name change and Attribute Remap services for $$$, so the tech is implemented. Name change log is also in place. If CCP management have guts to overcome Monoclegeddon Ghost then we will get those services on TQ. I personally don't see the reasons why not to do so. Nobody whining about Character Bazaar, isn't it? But official comment from CCP about those services in China would be much appreciated of course. Stop acting like Serenity does not exist ~~in the same Universe~~. Why exactly chinese players have better account services than we do? People in china are dumb so this post was worthless..
Mycool Jahksn Viziam Amarr Empire 42	Posted - 2013.09.09 11:06:00 - [52] - Quote I say character renaming should be possible as long as it's costly and not done more often than once every two-three years perhaps and ONLY if there's a history log where you can easily see what the previous name was. Like in my case it says: Mycool Jahksn Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 42 Under my portrait. Under Likes received: 42 there could be a link that says: character name history or whatever. My interests include but are not limited to throwing rocks at bee hives. There are more stars in the universe than all of the grains of sand on earth.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 11516	Posted - 2013.09.09 11:41:00 - [53] - Quote Terrorfrodo wrote: More important than name changes, CCP should purge a couple hundred thousand characters from the database to release their names for use. After 10 years, so many characters have been made, only to be biomassed again, or on accounts that have not been used in five years. I assume millions of people have tried EVE at some point and used up good names, only to realize after two days that EVE is not for them. How about they rename every character that has not been on an active account for more than three years and has less than 10m skillpoints. I bet that would be several million names. The old chars would continue to exist, with names like GallenteCitizen12345678 but their former names become available for new characters. Even if we limit this to trial accounts that never subscribed that would still free up a lot of names. 1 Kings 12:11
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 668	Posted - 2013.09.09 13:14:00 - [54] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: John Ratcliffe wrote: The OP has a point - CCP are not being reasonable. If one assumes that a character is an extension of the player and they will not rename because that allows the character to take on a new 'form', then I fail to see how selling a character to another player is any different. Actually, the rules are pretty clear about this. When you buy a character it's against the rules to pretend to be the (or any) previous owner. CCP Spitfire wrote: The new owner of the character may NOT pass himself off as any previous owner. Yes but on the other hand, the other way of reputation is still there no amtter if the character has been sold or not. If someone buy a character with a not so good reputation, he can't really shed it off even if he start tellign everybody the character was bought. You can't gain from the past reputation but you have a lot to lose from it when dealing on the bazzar.
Doc Severide Caldari Provisions Caldari State 86	Posted - 2013.09.09 20:25:00 - [55] - Quote Malcanis wrote: There is also one extremely strong argument in favour of allowing name changes that I very rarely see discussed, and that is how transsexual players or players who have recently accepted a change in their sexuality identify with their characters. With trans players, I am told (and believe) that this is very powerful issue for them. Yeah.... Right.... Top of the list of things to worry about, I'm sure.... (Pukes all over keyboard)... Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo...
Malcolm Shinhwa Bad Touches 220	Posted - 2013.09.09 20:34:00 - [56] - Quote I can understand the consequences thing... you're an awoxer and should have to live with that. Cool. But if I buy a character, I'm not that player. The consequences unfairly fall on me instead of the scallywag they should. I don't know all the ins/outs of random renaming, but it seems like every character that is purchased should have its name and probably corp history reset. Of course, then some tool will pay the plex or whatever it is to wash his character and foil my plans. I hate that guy already. This is the rule:-á In Eve it's always a trick. If you don't think it's a trick, you just don't have enough experience to know what the trick is. That doesn't mean you shouldn't launch on that fool anyway and roll the dice.
Azurae South West Trading 103	Posted - 2013.09.09 20:35:00 - [57] - Quote Ayced Anneto wrote: Hey, first time posting so this may or may not be correctly categorized. Some time ago I spoke to the customer support about name changes, asking them if it was possible. (Although I pretty much knew it was not) They responded to me with this following message: Quote: GM correspondence removed as our forum rules do not allow posting of such content, CCP Phantom Yet trading(selling/buying) characters is allowed? Personally I don't care for **** about my reputation yet I am bothered with my name being nearly identical to my alternative characters giving other players several advantages in game. Will character name changes ever be available? I'd pay for it and I'm sure there are others who would petition your own alts for impersonating your main. problem solved
Murk Paradox Red Tsunami The Cursed Few 467	Posted - 2013.09.09 20:46:00 - [58] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Mallak Azaria wrote: John Ratcliffe wrote: The OP has a point - CCP are not being reasonable. If one assumes that a character is an extension of the player and they will not rename because that allows the character to take on a new 'form', then I fail to see how selling a character to another player is any different. Actually, the rules are pretty clear about this. When you buy a character it's against the rules to pretend to be the (or any) previous owner. CCP Spitfire wrote: The new owner of the character may NOT pass himself off as any previous owner. Yes but on the other hand, the other way of reputation is still there no amtter if the character has been sold or not. If someone buy a character with a not so good reputation, he can't really shed it off even if he start tellign everybody the character was bought. You can't gain from the past reputation but you have a lot to lose from it when dealing on the bazzar. Tags for sec standings, pilot name edition. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
Doc Severide Caldari Provisions Caldari State 86	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:19:00 - [59] - Quote Eugene Kerner wrote: Absolutely AGAINST renameing for whatever cost. You could basicly apply to a corp, steal everything you can grab or kill blues in missions, get kicked, rename and repeat until you get bored. That is probably one of the stupidest arguments I've heard yet against this. Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo...
Reckless Ourtomineng Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 8	Posted - 2013.09.09 21:23:00 - [60] - Quote Just be sure to not impersonate someone else.



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