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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.08.22 07:30:00 -
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Not a sob story here. A player who has been afk for 3 wks suddenly takes all our community supply of weapons and mods and a little bit of ammo. No biggy, we don't keep the expensive items in there, it's just easier to let ppl have free riegn instead having to ask everyone if they have this or that...
But we petition a GM since it's a pretty big coincedence(sp?) that on the same night we get looted a player who has been afk for 3 wks leaves our Corp. The GM says it's not proof enough, so no action will be taken. Ok, so it may not have been that player (if it's not then I have a rat that needs exterminated).
But why can't CEOs and Directors have a type of log/journal for each Division to see who adds and takes what (not necessarily adds, that may be too much info). That way we would have hard proof of who takes things, so we can get the GM's to do something about it.
But he hasn't Doomheimed his character yet, so I may get him to own up to it. Or just kill him several times with an alt character...who knows.
But I would like to see a Log/Journal for things taken out of the Divisions.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.08.22 07:35:00 -
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I agree
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Xelios
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Posted - 2003.08.22 07:39:00 -
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I think a log like that would get absolutely immense after some time.
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.08.22 07:41:00 -
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Well don't go for an item by item stand point...Go through something like Player X has taken 10 items out of Division 3 in the last 10 minutes...Something like that.
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Lucas De'Thal
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Posted - 2003.08.22 07:43:00 -
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i've been wanting something like this forever. just to know who took anything would be a great help.
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.08.22 07:59:00 -
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The GM says it's not proof enough, so no action will be taken. Ok, so it may not have been that player.
But I would like to see a Log/Journal for things taken out of the Divisions.
I understand your loss, the same thing happened to my previous corp, as was reported quite publically on this board. Just a couple of points, even if u have proof, as we did at the time, the GMs will not do anything, as CCP doesn't consider this cheating. The see it as a very valid part of the game.
As for the logs, Helmar mentioned in the recent csm that suhc a money tracing facility should be available thru agents, he didn't state an ETA, so I wouldn't hold your breath, there are other more pressing issues, than people losing months of work with no comeback or respite to address first - like how to anchor containers, or getting billboards to display advertisements, you know, the things that really matter ingame.
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.08.22 08:03:00 -
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I didn't really expect the GM to do anything. I was just shocked by his answer..."prove it". If he would have said "blah..blah..this is a vald tactics..blah..blah", then I wouldn't have brought this up. Fine if it's a valid tactics, but then give us Bounty hunters away to track ppl. As Lord Zap keeps saying, you can't find a single player in game if he doesn't want to be found. Heck even if he's not trying to hide you can't hardly find him if he's a nobody.
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Sc0rpion
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Posted - 2003.08.22 15:43:00 -
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Or just kill him several times with an alt character...who knows.
Don't do that, do it with your main. If you are mad enough about the theft to kill him, you are mad enough to let him know who did it and take the security hit. Killing him with anonymous_alt04 teaches him nothing.
"The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously."
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Ruulex DeMors
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Posted - 2003.08.23 08:00:00 -
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Or just kill him several times with an alt character...who knows.
Don't do that, do it with your main. If you are mad enough about the theft to kill him, you are mad enough to let him know who did it and take the security hit. Killing him with anonymous_alt04 teaches him nothing.
Oh, he'd know if I killed him. Even if it was an alt of mine.
Now he has a story that he just bought this account, and guesses the guy that sold him the account did this before he got into it and changed everything....Not likely when he talked to one of my Corp-mates and said he wouldn't say anything one way or the other, since it could be used against him.
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Isomerone
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Posted - 2003.08.23 08:27:00 -
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This happened twice to my corp and the GM said 'it's all part of the game'. And some wonder why it gets only 60% reviews...
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Zipoldy
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Posted - 2003.08.23 11:05:00 -
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What does 60% got to do with stealing ?? As this game doesn't have enough security/logs atm we just have to live with the loss. No actual biggy if someone empties the hangar just keep the low value stuff there and they might make a few millions and destroy their reputation...
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2003.08.23 11:12:00 -
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This happened twice to my corp and the GM said 'it's all part of the game'. And some wonder why it gets only 60% reviews...
If you can't cope with people being nasty to you, your probably playing the wrong game
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2003.08.23 11:31:00 -
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here here, great idea with the log accessable by the top brass of the corp.
As for such a log becomming immense after a while... all you realy need is to have the last 2 weeks or so logged, if you dont notice that someone swiped your entire hangar in 2 weeks well.. then the thief if good, damn good and deserves to keep his cover.
Also, a log is merely a list, a list on a computer is very very small, grafics take up space, lists do not. Sure if you keep all logs inderfinently they will add upp but why keep a log on what happened 3 months ago?
2 weeks log for each corp would take up less space than is used up by one newbie char.
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bullwyff
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Posted - 2003.08.23 11:39:00 -
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we use our hangars differently and in a safe way so only the normal stuff is there to pick out by all members. thats called general hangar 1 we also have a general hangar 2 but that is not in use for the moment. we also have a refinery for all the ores to refine and thats not open to all members. we also have the factory hangar that contains our bps and minerals and produced stuff to put on the market hangar is open for limited members also. then there is our treasury we use that for all our good stuff and is also limited for a few members. we trust our people but i think this is one of the safest ways to work with youre hangars and iff something gets stolen its easy to find out who it was. we have the advantage in our corp because we are all belgium players that we now each other in real live and thats an major advantage. iff someone is thinking about stealing stuff ill kik the crap out of him.  use youre hangars wise and you wont ger robbed. they can always take stuff but not the good stuff in this way.
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Moggi
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Posted - 2003.08.23 11:48:00 -
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Fully agree with bullwyff.
A good corp has a responsible, smart management.
If you cant handle that, close your corp and join one which has an idea of whats going on.
As in real live, you wouldnt give out the key to the safe to the claening lady, would you ?
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Johrenn
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Posted - 2003.08.23 12:59:00 -
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I know the Devs have decided to make this crap part of the game, but I REALLY want to see some tools for GM's and Directors to deal with the offenders. It's far too easy for some schmoe to act all nice for 2 or 3 weeks (since now they know most Corps have a "probationary" period of membership before hangar access is granted,) then rob you blind and delete the character. That shouldn't be part of the game, and it does nothing to enhance it's roleplay immersion. It's just pure griefing, and it's being condoned.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.08.23 14:10:00 -
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Every week I clean my cache, as this resets all pictures I wait a few days and go through the corp listing to see who's picture has not been reloaded. I then restrict this person to no access until they have played a day or two again. It seems some people that are leaving the game are giving/selling thier accounts, so the person that robbed you may not be the same player. So when the player again logs in, I speak to them and ask some questions any new person would not know. It may not stop anything, but hey, every little bit helps.
Sarkos - Oracle
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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