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Drakston
Sugar Free Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.30 07:16:00 -
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I've recently thought of an interesting solution to a very frustrating game mechanic: Autopilot. I would suggest that CCP sell, in their Nobel Exchange, a "Nav Computer" of sorts which would grant players the ability to "Warp to 0" while auto-piloting. I do not believe this would give an unfair advantage to any players, but would love to hear your thoughts.
Please don't suggest use of "third party" alterations to accomplish this, as it is clearly against the TOS. |
Hrald
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.30 07:26:00 -
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It gives an advantage to cargo carriers who are no longer vulnerable to pirates scanning their ships for the valuable GTCs they inevitably hold within. On the surface, it's a drawback to autopilot in exchange for the advantage of being able to set it and go do something.
On a second level, it promotes people actually playing the game instead of afk space trucking valuable goods all day erryday. |
Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
148
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Posted - 2011.10.30 07:29:00 -
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I am all for this.
They should also add a drone AI upgrade and an automated "MWD+cloak" routine to the NEX.
No wonder MTs are no great success for CCP when you can't by anything useful in the NEX. |
Drakston
Sugar Free Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.30 07:32:00 -
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Florestan Bronstein wrote:I am all for this.
They also should add a drone AI upgrade and an automated "MWD+cloak" routine to the NEX.
I sense a bit of sarcasm there :P |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
510
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Posted - 2011.10.30 07:36:00 -
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god no
cloaky nullified tengu + this + rock on the cloak key would just make it godawfully easy to AFK haul stuff through nullsec |
Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
112
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Posted - 2011.10.30 07:37:00 -
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Remove warp to 0 fullstop.
And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell. |
Halcyon Ingenium
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.30 07:40:00 -
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This should be in features and ideas discussion.
This is a horrible idea.
The loser in any fight consols himself with a moral victory. Thus is the beginning of slave-morality. |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2011.10.30 08:44:00 -
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Tallianna Avenkarde wrote:Remove warp to 0 fullstop.
And make it so you can't create bookmarks within 100km of a stargate. Solve the WTZ problem, and the server load problem at the same time. |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.30 18:32:00 -
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Why not have a possibility of a jump calculation going wrong? Say 10% chance and a new skill which improves the chance of success by 1% per level?
When a ship fails its roll it randomly pops into space between 10km and 50km of its target. |
Amro One
One.
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Posted - 2011.10.30 18:58:00 -
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Can i get gold ammo like World Of Tank also from the NeXs
So I can win all the time with out need to do work.
F****** Morons. |
Yao Ying
Potsdam Royal Guards
Nite's Reign
2
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Posted - 2011.10.30 21:58:00 -
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No. A better solution would be to allow regular dictors to bubble in lowsec, but even that's a terrible idea. |
Cypermethren
Hardcore p0wnography
Cascade Probable
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Posted - 2011.10.30 22:05:00 -
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Hrald wrote:It gives an advantage to cargo carriers who are no longer vulnerable to pirates scanning their ships for the valuable GTCs they inevitably hold within. On the surface, it's a drawback to autopilot in exchange for the advantage of being able to set it and go do something.
On a second level, it promotes people actually playing the game instead of afk space trucking valuable goods all day erryday.
Because being a trader, and buyign goods cheaply from one side of the universe, then jumping them 40 jumps thru highsec, is just totaly enthralling and interesting on so many levels.
I mean, you jump into a system, you click the yellow stargate, hit warp... wait.... click jump.....
load into the new system... click the yellow stargate... hit warp... wait..... click jump.....
Oh... 40 or so times.
Just thinking about it makes the hairs on my neck tingle with excitement.
I honest to god cannot understand why someone would want to getup and walk away from their PC when doing this, because its just SO MUCH FUN!! |
Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.30 22:16:00 -
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Cypermethren wrote:Hrald wrote:It gives an advantage to cargo carriers who are no longer vulnerable to pirates scanning their ships for the valuable GTCs they inevitably hold within. On the surface, it's a drawback to autopilot in exchange for the advantage of being able to set it and go do something.
On a second level, it promotes people actually playing the game instead of afk space trucking valuable goods all day erryday. Because being a trader, and buyign goods cheaply from one side of the universe, then jumping them 40 jumps thru highsec, is just totaly enthralling and interesting on so many levels. I mean, you jump into a system, you click the yellow stargate, hit warp... wait.... click jump..... load into the new system... click the yellow stargate... hit warp... wait..... click jump..... Oh... 40 or so times. Just thinking about it makes the hairs on my neck tingle with excitement. I honest to god cannot understand why someone would want to getup and walk away from their PC when doing this, because its just SO MUCH FUN!!
I always suspected there would be people in EVE who genuinely enjoy doing very long cargo runs, and you, Sir are the first I have found.
I can make a pretty good guess that you also enjoy mining, since most no-bots find it very boring, but it seems to be perfectly suited to you.
Do you get a warm fuzzy tingling feeling every time you wait for a mining cycle to complete, or is it from warping to a station to drop off your ore?
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Cypermethren
Hardcore p0wnography
Cascade Probable
24
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Posted - 2011.10.30 22:52:00 -
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I was being scarcastic  While trying to prove a point that its boring as ****, hense the very reason people choose to autopilot.
Because picking up the turd you're pet dog just did in the back yard, realy is more amusing than going 40 jumps in an Industrial.
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.10.30 22:56:00 -
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god what is with all these I want to "afk play eve with no danger" posts?
DIACCF!
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Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.10.30 23:01:00 -
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Dorian Wylde wrote:Tallianna Avenkarde wrote:Remove warp to 0 fullstop. And make it so you can't create bookmarks within 100km of a stargate. Solve the WTZ problem, and the server load problem at the same time.
So... make navigation an inconvenient living hell for everyone because of whining high sec gankers. Yeah, no. |
Vricrolatious
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.30 23:03:00 -
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At no point should Warp to Zero and Autopilot be used in the same sentence unless it's to state that they should never be used in the same sentence (see what I did there?)
Autopilot is something allows you a little convenience, but at the cost of taking longer than doing all the jumps on manual. Warp to Zero is a convenience at the cost of having to stay at your computer and do all the jumps on manual. You want to use Autopilot? Go ahead, but there is a risk that someone will scan you down and find you worth popping on that 15k approach AND it will take time. You want it done faster and 'safer,' then stay at your computer and do it yourself.
There is nothing wrong with either option, but you cannot (and will not) ever have them combined to make things even easier for you.
Also, this is the wrong sub-forum for this post.
WIDot, Best Dot, Even Sans Dot!
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Cypermethren
Hardcore p0wnography
Cascade Probable
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Posted - 2011.10.30 23:12:00 -
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Morganta wrote:god what is with all these I want to "afk play eve with no danger" posts?
DIACCF!
Its more so i want to play eve and be amused/interested in things which are classed as genuine gamepaly/essential to the sandbox enviroment.
Buying cheap one area and moving it to resell in another for profit = big part of the sandbox, or everyone would have to go to Jita to get what they wanted, if noone moved to other areas for resale.
Theres nothing fun, about clicking a stargate, clicking warp too, waiting, clicking jump, rinse repeat.
I, personaly, never agreed or said anything about needing autopilot to warp to 0
What i did heavily hint at is that players wouldent be asking for this if they found the process...interesting/fun....
How can they do that? I'll send you a million cookies if somene can actualy come up with something that is fun and viable/reasonable at the same time.
Edit: One cookie for myself for a popup game of Pong or other mini-games to be used/avaliable for those long hauls |
XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
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Posted - 2011.10.31 00:17:00 -
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The problem is that the eve universe was made much smaller during the initial warp to zero fiasco and it removed a lot of the challenge and conflict that would arise from travel. Autopilot is already a luxury and allowing people to apply warp to zero to it would once again make this universe smaller and would do nothing but reward AFK play further.
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Drakston
Sugar Free Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.31 00:57:00 -
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Amro One wrote:Can i get gold ammo like World Of Tank also from the NeXs
So I can win all the time with out need to do work.
F****** Morons.
You sir, are an F'ing moron. I never mentioned selling anything in the shop that would give you an unfair advantage, in WoT the store was indeed heavily pay to win. I even suggested only allowing it to work in empire space. I was simply asking for input and I've received it, thank you for your time. Farewell.
P.S. All, I realize this is in the wrong forum, but until they add a way to move threads, It's stuck here. Thank you all. |
KaarBaak
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Posted - 2011.10.31 01:07:00 -
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Counter-proposal: Remove Autopilot.
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JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2011.10.31 01:20:00 -
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Drakston wrote:I never mentioned selling anything in the shop that would give you an unfair advantage, in WoT the store was indeed heavily pay to win. I even suggested only allowing it to work in empire space.
Except this is just that - an unfair advantage.
What will the excuse be for those poor haulers that can't afford to buy this new shiny module from the NEX?
"Too bad, you should just buy some PLEX?"
Regardless, you're proposing the sale of an item that removes traveling time, and adds safety to a legit profession.
This directly affects a pilot's ISK/Time/Effort ratio. If that's not an advantage, we might as well be selling SP boosters, Mission loot enhancers and (ohmigosh) magically appearing out of nowhere ISK bundles in the NEX.
Was there ever one lesson to be drawn from the microtransaction model, it is this:
DO NOT SELL POWER!!!
There is no faster way to kill off your franchise.
There is no such thing as a vanity item in EVE - the game is too... 'meta'. |
Drakston
Sugar Free Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.31 04:52:00 -
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JamesCLK wrote:Drakston wrote:I never mentioned selling anything in the shop that would give you an unfair advantage, in WoT the store was indeed heavily pay to win. I even suggested only allowing it to work in empire space. Except this is just that - an unfair advantage. What will the excuse be for those poor haulers that can't afford to buy this new shiny module from the NEX? "Too bad, you should just buy some PLEX?"Regardless, you're proposing the sale of an item that removes traveling time, and adds safety to a legit profession. This directly affects a pilot's ISK/Time/Effort ratio. If that's not an advantage, we might as well be selling SP boosters, Mission loot enhancers and (ohmigosh) magically appearing out of nowhere ISK bundles in the NEX. Was there ever one lesson to be drawn from the microtransaction model, it is this: DO NOT SELL POWER!!!There is no faster way to kill off your franchise. There is no such thing as a vanity item in EVE - the game is too... 'meta'.
Thank you for your contribution to this discussion. As I had stated in my original post, I was of the belief that this did not offer any direct unfair advantage, and was looking for others' opinions. I'm glad you chimed in with a legit response as apposed to many others simply saying it was a dumb idea. |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.10.31 05:25:00 -
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I'd vote for a autopilot option that requires you to warp to zero manually but jumps automatically while automatic warping to 15km is disabled. Then you can just warp off, tab out and tab back in at the 'Autopilot jumping.' message.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
dogstar eclipse
nora inu kaisha
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:26:00 -
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You can still be at war in high-sec. |
Niamo Higate
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:32:00 -
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Florestan Bronstein wrote:I am all for this.
They should also add a drone AI upgrade and an automated "MWD+cloak" routine to the NEX.
No wonder MTs are no great success for CCP when you can't by anything useful in the NEX.
My boots and uniform are very useful thank you very much. I certainly hope you are happy in that hideously drab getup you call clothes. |
Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.31 19:16:00 -
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Cypermethren wrote:I was being scarcastic While trying to prove a point that its boring as ****, hense the very reason people choose to autopilot. Because picking up the turd you're pet dog just did in the back yard, realy is more amusing than going 40 jumps in an Industrial.
Whoosh! |
Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
114
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Posted - 2011.11.02 11:27:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:Tallianna Avenkarde wrote:Remove warp to 0 fullstop. And make it so you can't create bookmarks within 100km of a stargate. Solve the WTZ problem, and the server load problem at the same time. So... make navigation an inconvenient living hell for everyone because of whining high sec gankers. Yeah, no.
Haven't stepped foot in hisec for near on 4 years. Go DIAF Mr reward with no risk
And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell. |
Jonni Favorite
Sundown Logistics
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.02 12:34:00 -
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Amro One wrote:Can i get gold ammo like World Of Tank also from the NeXs
So I can win all the time with out need to do work.
F****** Morons.
You already can. Buy plex, get as much faction ammo and shinies as you need! |
Rina Asanari
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 07:43:00 -
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Warp to 0 buyable in the NeX?
No. Just no. Same as with other game-changers which may pop up there. |
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