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Galaxy Chicken
New Order Logistics CODE.
33
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Posted - 2013.09.12 03:26:00 -
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In response to the recent lengthening of the policy concerning "new players" and rookie systems, I would like to publically state that I will continue to gank miners whom I find to be in violation of the Code, without regard to the age of their character.
I don't typically check the employment history of my gank targets, and I'm not about to start.
A non-comp is a non-comp is a non-comp, and I will NEVER check one of their employment histories to make sure I'm not killing a new player, be they in an Orca or a Venture.
You violate the Code, be prepared to explode.
www.MinerBumping.com |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3497
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Posted - 2013.09.12 03:33:00 -
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Well, alrighty then.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1226
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Posted - 2013.09.12 03:53:00 -
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Galaxy Chicken wrote:In response to the recent lengthening of the policy concerning "new players" and rookie systems, I would like to publically state that I will continue to gank miners whom I find to be in violation of the Code, without regard to the age of their character. I don't typically check the employment history of my gank targets, and I'm not about to start. A non-comp is a non-comp is a non-comp, and I will NEVER check one of their employment histories to make sure I'm not killing a new player, be they in an Orca or a Venture. You violate the Code, be prepared to explode. www.MinerBumping.com
I look forward to your ban. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
677
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Posted - 2013.09.12 03:55:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Galaxy Chicken wrote:In response to the recent lengthening of the policy concerning "new players" and rookie systems, I would like to publically state that I will continue to gank miners whom I find to be in violation of the Code, without regard to the age of their character. I don't typically check the employment history of my gank targets, and I'm not about to start. A non-comp is a non-comp is a non-comp, and I will NEVER check one of their employment histories to make sure I'm not killing a new player, be they in an Orca or a Venture. You violate the Code, be prepared to explode. www.MinerBumping.com I look forward to your ban.
I don;t care about his ban but I sure do care about the kind of tears we will get out of it. |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
1237
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Posted - 2013.09.12 03:58:00 -
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The moment they step out of "training gank free systems" they're fair game...
I'm currently taking bets on the following: - CCP Games becomes EA Games' property. - EVE Online will have Microtranctions everywhere. |

Lilliana Stelles
879
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:01:00 -
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Has something changed? I thought ganking was only not allowed in rookie systems, regardless of player age. Incarna from 2009. 3 Years later and what we have doesn't look half as good as this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n41s1Iox18A |

Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
251
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:16:00 -
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Nothing really changed. |

BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
6959
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:17:00 -
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then really OP... who cares I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |

Spy 21
Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage
194
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:18:00 -
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You go man.
The Eve Community always seems to over react to these clarifications... I seriously doubt that unless you are ganking in a starter system you will be ok... but do tell if anything bad happens... the rule is the same as it has always been... don't mess with brand new players... I know they've changed the wording somewhat but that's to maintain their freedom to enforce that rule in any situation they feel warranted... it's their game so they can do that.
Just a side note,
Those that seem to complain the loudest about any eve group with a sense of entitlement as to their right to mine or haul safely, or live in hi sec, or just be dweebs in general... are the ones that are exhibiting a pretty strong sense of entitlement themselves over their own style of play and how it may need to be tweaked or altered because of certain rule clarifications recently.
I thought the community generally disliked those that felt "entitled" to anything in this game?
Just a thought.
S
Obfuscation for the WIN on page 3... |

Galaxy Chicken
New Order Logistics CODE.
35
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:21:00 -
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Ah yes, nothing really changed, well the rules got more vague and all-encompassing, but they will be enforced just the same as always, we are assured.
For some reason I'm reminded of when my president signed a law that permitted the stripping of an American citizen's rights, then promised he wouldn't. |

Baggo Hammers
98
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:26:00 -
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A real tough guy. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |

ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
1496
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:28:00 -
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And we should care because...? You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
430
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:31:00 -
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In other news: Snow is cold, water is wet. |

Neithra Drakon
Maraque Enterprises
2
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:37:00 -
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Galaxy Chicken wrote: You violate the Code, be prepared to explode.
http://tinyurl.com/ohpleasetry What is the difference between a man and a parasite? A man builds, a parasite asks, 'Where's my share?' A man creates, a parasite says, 'What will the neighbors think?' A man invents, a parasite says, 'Watch out, or you might tread on the toes of God...' -á-AR |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3253
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:41:00 -
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As is usual from these guys; redundant thread is redundant. |

bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
257
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:41:00 -
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But but but...think of the children! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4547
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Posted - 2013.09.12 04:43:00 -
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Galaxy Chicken wrote:Ah yes, nothing really changed, well the rules got more vague and all-encompassing, but they will be enforced just the same as always, we are assured.
For some reason I'm reminded of when my president signed a law that permitted the stripping of an American citizen's rights, then promised he wouldn't. Heh heh.
You can't discuss moderation There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
311
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Posted - 2013.09.12 05:46:00 -
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I applaud the New Order's strict policy of non-discrimination, and urge other nonprofits to do the same.
I say to you quite frankly that the time for noobie discrimination is over. There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1453
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Posted - 2013.09.12 06:43:00 -
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The only 'new players' the GMs care about are those doing the tutorials or the Sisters of Eve epic arc, Pig
These innocent, virgin players haven't been seduced by awful perverted bot-aspirant highsec mining corps yet
Don't gank them :( |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Suddenly Spaceships.
813
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:07:00 -
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This is so Wow again...lol self-fulfilling prophecy
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
20545
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:09:00 -
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Tool... but alteast a now bannable tool. 
It's the fasted way to make CCP revisit the rules again... and make them even more strict. All power for you!  "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases |

Crimson Gauntlet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:16:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Tool... but alteast a now bannable tool.  It's the fasted way to make CCP revisit the rules again... and make them even more strict. All power for you! 
Why bannable? He is not saying he is actively pursuing other players, merely that he takes on all comers via the New Order's RP.
Not a thing wrong with that. Or is any action against a "new player" bannable to you? Are you going to be one of those people who encourage a noob to launch a petition when they die of their own stupidity?
P.S. A disclaimer, I am a New Order Agent as well. |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
20545
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:19:00 -
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Crimson Gauntlet wrote:P.S. A disclaimer, I am a New Order Agent as well.
...and the discussion is over for me: I don't argue with pseudo fascist under the cover of RP. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
485
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:19:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Tool... but alteast a now bannable tool.  It's the fasted way to make CCP revisit the rules again... and make them even more strict. All power for you! 
Now, we've had reasonable conversations before, so, here goes...
I can almost 100% promise you that the last thing CCP will ever mess with is the non consensual aspect of PVP in this game. CCP comes from Ultima Online's pre-trammael days, with the explicit motivation to NOT make that same mistake. The higher ups at CCP have stated that they'd rather kill the game off, over removing noncon PVP. No matter what, EVE will always retain the ability to target and open fire on another ship, even if they don't want to fight.
I doubt Galaxy is going to get banned. They've been at this for a long time. As I said, it's likely just an ISD using poor wording to describe "Newbie zones along with participating in SoE arc".
Also, we're not fascists, we're religious zealots. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Crimson Gauntlet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:22:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Crimson Gauntlet wrote:P.S. A disclaimer, I am a New Order Agent as well. ...and the discussion is over for me: I don't argue with pseudo fascist under the cover of RP.
Fascist? What would make you use that descriptor? |

illirdor
Yamato Heavy Industries
54
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:24:00 -
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Galaxy Chicken wrote:Ah yes, nothing really changed, well the rules got more vague and all-encompassing, but they will be enforced just the same as always, we are assured. [/i]
So if nothing has changed then why the **** do you even post... nobody care about miner bumping.
Soooo this is my sig....-á |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
486
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:31:00 -
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Crimson Gauntlet wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Crimson Gauntlet wrote:P.S. A disclaimer, I am a New Order Agent as well. ...and the discussion is over for me: I don't argue with pseudo fascist under the cover of RP. Fascist? What would make you use that descriptor?
We're big mean doodooheads, Mr Gauntlet. We're quite literally a form of radical authoritarian nationalism that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Fascists (us) seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that promotes the mass mobilization of the national community, relying on a vanguard party to initiate a revolution to organize the nation on fascist principles.
It's either that, or our carebear friend is trying to draw a ham-fisted comparison of The New Order and a certain Austrian man who lead Germany during WWII. Blowing up spaceships in a spaceship game is literally comparable to the atrocities of total war and the systemic attempted genocide of an entire race of peoples. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Crimson Gauntlet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:33:00 -
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Quote:It's either that, or our carebear friend is trying to draw a ham-fisted comparison of The New Order and a certain Austrian man who lead Germany during WWII. Blowing up spaceships in a spaceship game is literally comparable to the atrocities of total war and the systemic attempted genocide of an entire race of peoples.
Ah, that guy. Well, one more and I will have a Miner Bingo. |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
486
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:37:00 -
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Crimson Gauntlet wrote:Quote:It's either that, or our carebear friend is trying to draw a ham-fisted comparison of The New Order and a certain Austrian man who lead Germany during WWII. Blowing up spaceships in a spaceship game is literally comparable to the atrocities of total war and the systemic attempted genocide of an entire race of peoples. Ah, that guy. Well, one more and I will have a Miner Bingo.
Let me lend a hand. You're mean, come out to null and fight, I have a super PVP character and you're on my list, I belong to a massive nullsec alliance and now you're set red, Goon alt, TEST alt, PL alt, what are you 12, and (generic RL threat)*.
*generic RL threat was totally made as a satirical comment in regards to the "miner bingo" game. I would never commit harm on Mr. Gauntlet, he's a swell person who I'd love to have a beer with. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Crimson Gauntlet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.12 07:42:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Crimson Gauntlet wrote:Quote:It's either that, or our carebear friend is trying to draw a ham-fisted comparison of The New Order and a certain Austrian man who lead Germany during WWII. Blowing up spaceships in a spaceship game is literally comparable to the atrocities of total war and the systemic attempted genocide of an entire race of peoples. Ah, that guy. Well, one more and I will have a Miner Bingo. Let me lend a hand. You're mean, come out to null and fight, I have a super PVP character and you're on my list, I belong to a massive nullsec alliance and now you're set red, Goon alt, TEST alt, PL alt, what are you 12, and (generic RL threat)*. *generic RL threat was totally made as a satirical comment in regards to the "miner bingo" game. I would never commit harm on Mr. Gauntlet, he's a swell person who I'd love to have a beer with.
You were right on the third one. Hadn't had anyone threaten me with nullsec friends since I started my little adventure in Balle. (for which, by the way, I have awarded myself the title of "Baller".)
Got a lot of the rest of the list though. My favorite are the numerous references to space honor.
As to the last sentence, likewise. :) |

killerkeano
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
12
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Posted - 2013.09.12 08:22:00 -
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yawn. |

Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
10012
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Posted - 2013.09.12 08:23:00 -
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COOLEST
STORY
E-V-E-R!!! You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
692
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Posted - 2013.09.12 08:52:00 -
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Galaxy Chicken wrote:Sperg Allrighty then. |

Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
209
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Posted - 2013.09.12 09:09:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:I can almost 100% promise you that the last thing CCP will ever mess with is the non consensual aspect of PVP in this game.
That is where you're wrong. They have explicitly stated that griefing new players in starting systems is if not a bannable offense, a stern warning and then temp-bannable offense. Just like any other company they don't want people leaving the game because some douche mcdoucheface pods a new player as soon as they undock the first time. |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
488
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Posted - 2013.09.12 09:16:00 -
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Teinyhr wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:I can almost 100% promise you that the last thing CCP will ever mess with is the non consensual aspect of PVP in this game. That is where you're wrong. They have explicitly stated that griefing new players in starting systems is if not a bannable offence, a stern warning and then temp-bannable offense. Just like any other company they don't want people leaving the game because some douche mcdoucheface pods a new player as soon as they undock the first time.
That is messing with the newbies. Pretty much the only concession to noncon PVP, and only in specific systems.
I feel the same, killing fresh faces is pretty dumb. There's some disagreement with what a fresh face is, but I tend to avoid anyone under two weeks.
Outside of that though, all bets are off. CCP has stated if the choice was noncon PVP and a shutdown, they'll go with a shutdown. It's literally as in the dictionary definition of literally, one of the core components of EVE.
Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
1310
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Posted - 2013.09.12 09:55:00 -
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*yawn* Irrelevant thread remains irrelevant. Yet I still found time to post here.
Personnel Division Director - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse CEO Sanctuary Pact Alliance --áSanctuary Pact |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2802

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Posted - 2013.09.12 11:07:00 -
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I am locking this thread and would like to remind you that ganking rookies in the Rookie Systems is against the rules. Harassment of new players is also taken very seriously and will be dealt with by our GM team. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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