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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2006.01.11 14:00:00 -
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Howdy folks.
Just wondering about peoples views on the use of alts trained as covert ops pilots and situated in noob corps that cant be war decced..
I raise this because of our current wars we have been fighting and the continuous use of cloaker alts to set people up by those we are fighting.
Now I have no objection to covert ops being used for how they were designed, nor being set up every now and then by a noob corp alt one.
But in every single engagement nearly for several weeks our pilots have been set up by these 2 pilots in noob corp over and over... its has started to get somewhat annoying being and random ranges from gates and having fleets warp to you and your mates over and over within 5km..
The worst i saw was when we had 5 ships around a gate and one pilot was off at his optimal 35 km off and 3 ships fitted for closerange warp in kill and warp out before we could get one locked down.
This the occured again withing 2 minutes to someone else on the outside rank, however we were more ready and took down one of their ships.
This has now happened more times than I care to count with fleets using these alt cloakers to warp to, the novelty wore off some time ago.
Im not asking for them to stop using cloakers or anything, but do they not have the balls to put these alts into their corps and fight like men?
The cloakers are undoubetly decent pilots as its rare for us to glimpse them, but none the less..
Opinions?
ps: and yes I have lost a ship to these guys but due to my own stupidity and no I am not bitter about my loss ;)
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2006.01.11 14:19:00 -
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Because a war target uncloaking in 0.5 space is somewhat different than a noob corp cloaker uncloaking in 0.5 as far as shooting and concord are concerned!
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2006.01.11 14:31:00 -
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They dont need to REMAIN in the gang however, they can be ganged at last minute and then warped to and kicked whilst in warp ;)
Yes agreed it is difficult to get a lock on them indeed, but there is a difference when you do get a lock on them but cant shoot or loose your ship to concord.
I agree that it makes little difference in certain circumstances to the game if they are war target or not, especially in 0.0 space.
But in 0.1 and above thats where the issue is with me.
Alts are a common thing but if your going to continue to use them over and over it does get a wee bit lame when you have the risk of sentry and concord retailation.
Im a covert ops pilot myself (on occasions) but if im fighting I use my main and not someone protected by game rules.
Perhaps an icon showing them as war target if they are ganged would be appropriate?
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2006.01.11 14:46:00 -
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 Originally by: SinBin
Here 1 other thing why was this guy sitting 34km off the gate alone ? with enermy in system ?. why was he also not huging the gate or alined to warp ?
He was setting up to his optimal to the gate as were we all, hostiles not in system at the time.
And it only took them seconds to enter and be on us, however had he been aligned it may have been a different matter.
The same trick didnt work twice once expected.
Just the one neutral who I had not seen before at that time yet who has become a name we keep an eye out for.
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2006.01.11 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Beter yet, what you are doing in 0.5?
congratulations in order to our daft question of the week award winner..
My current home system is 0.3, there are o.4's 1 jump from it, and 0.5 2 jumps..
no im not going to just sit in 0.0 sec all day when there are such a nice variety of places to pop people :)
When looking for targets we often venture a few jumps out of home
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2006.01.11 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ghey Iislandur
Originally by: Captain Merkin
Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Beter yet, what you are doing in 0.5?
congratulations in order to our daft question of the week award winner..
My current home system is 0.3, there are o.4's 1 jump from it, and 0.5 2 jumps..
no im not going to just sit in 0.0 sec all day when there are such a nice variety of places to pop people :)
When looking for targets we often venture a few jumps out of home
Translation: I prefer to shoot people in systems where they will have a security status penalty if they shoot back. And since empire alts traveling through 0.1-0.4 need to get to empire to conduct business, the probability of me getting shot in return, is almost zero.
that makes even less sense than before..
if I shoot people I take sec damage not them :)
if they are war targets then neither take sec damage.
If they shoot me they take sec hit, sentry gives them shield damage, i shoot them no loss to me.
perhaps your point eludes me and rather you meant the reverse of what your fingers typed.
Now this has detracted from the original aim of the thread into useless gibberish.
Why does hunting wartargets in empire rather than sitting on a gate in 0.0 that they hardly use mean we are trying to avoid sec hits (assuming your brain was not connected to your hands when you typed your previous statement)?
Now this thread is about noob corp cloakers and opinions of how respectful people think it is to continuously use this tactic.
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