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Ilany	Posted - 2006.01.12 10:02:00 - [31] Jaffe cakes 4tw -------
Wee Dave	Posted - 2006.01.12 10:18:00 - [32] Is it a cake or is it a biscuit? Only the tax man knows.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.01.12 10:34:00 - [33] there has to be somewhere in america that imports jaffa cakes, right? wait, CCP has UK office, doesn't it? get the guys there to send some across
Capsicum	Posted - 2006.01.12 10:41:00 - [34] Edited by: Capsicum on 12/01/2006 10:42:55 Edited by: Capsicum on 12/01/2006 10:42:27 Edited by: Capsicum on 12/01/2006 10:41:52 Edited by: Capsicum on 12/01/2006 10:41:49 Edited by: Capsicum on 12/01/2006 10:41:36 Originally by: MaxPower *Who can drink the most at the pub at lunchtime, and still convince the eve community they are sober Hows ami doing far so ?
Uther Doull	Posted - 2006.01.12 15:32:00 - [35] to all the ppl who are saying devs have better things to do: how long do you think cooking up a few db queries will take? here's your answer, not very long... related question: how much lines do you think Oveur codes per day? here's your answer, none at all... so yeah if they have to spend the entire day to clear the petition backlog like today and yesterday, then there will be no time for this, but when things are a little bit back to normal it will be a small effort... anyways, things i'd like to see: * number of accounts that won more then 1 t2 bpo and how many (no names) * capital ships stats (how many of each are around and how many of em are owned by the same corp/alliance (once again no names) * isk stats like others have asked * total isk generated (rat bounties, mission rewards etc) * total isk that changed hands through the market (player to player) * total isk sunk (player to npc etc) * highest total training time lost (for active accounts) will prolly think of more stuff later
Winter Solstice	Posted - 2006.01.12 15:54:00 - [36] Edited by: Winter Solstice on 12/01/2006 15:54:52 Originally by: Adril Alatar Raven: 14,130 Apocalyspse: 12,976 Megathron: 10,411 Dominix: 7,666 Scorpion: 7,537 Armageddon: 7,370 Tempest: 5,920 Typhoon: 2,393 Total: 68,403 Sounds fake to me, those Minmatar numbers are way too high.
Skaz	Posted - 2006.01.12 16:27:00 - [37] what is the oldest item in the game... plus its owner I want it stat! plus some stats pretty please with a cherry on top? "No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..."
Zaldiri	Posted - 2006.01.12 16:51:00 - [38] Originally by: Wee Dave Is it a cake or is it a biscuit? Only the tax man knows. Acctualy he dosent, its a big headache for the Inland revenue. ----------------------------------------------- Admiral of King Frieza's Super Saiyan fleet.
Avon	Posted - 2006.01.12 16:58:00 - [39] Originally by: kieron Originally by: Jon Hawkes I want to know how many Jaffa Cakes Keiron can fit in his mouth in one go! Jaffa cakes? Drop me a mail with an address I can ship stuff to you at and I'll send you some. (Not your home address, the temptation to fly to the states to say "Hi" would be too great). ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Avon	Posted - 2006.01.12 16:59:00 - [40] Originally by: Wee Dave Is it a cake or is it a biscuit? Only the tax man knows. It's a cake. Biscuits go soft when they go stale, cakes go hard - FACT. ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.01.12 17:01:00 - [41] You may have a cookie if you can tell me WHY that is avon. (a cookie is a biscuit by the way) .... Alts : The forum equivalent of a WCS ?
Arakasai	Posted - 2006.01.12 17:10:00 - [42] Edited by: Arakasai on 12/01/2006 17:11:31 Edited by: Arakasai on 12/01/2006 17:10:55 As anyone who has done data management will tell you, getting the data is easy ... making sense of it is more difficult. The battleship numbers are a good example. People immediately jumping to conclusions about what the numbers mean. Raven at the top, Typhoon at the bottom. Lots of immediate conclusions are made, conclusions that really lack the appropriate data to be made. I happen to work for an application company and the absolute worst mistake that can be made is allowing your clients to interprete a small snapshot of data. Ultimately, in a community like this one, if you release enough of the data some of the more trained people will develop a logical interpretation of the data. However, if you do not release a large enough subset of the data, you will get a large number of unrational responses and wild speculation as to what the numbers mean. Without the appropriate data, the more logical people will be unable to curb the wild speculation. Do the battleship numbers indicate that each person in eve has 1 battleship ... unlikely given my "experiences" within eve. However we lack the data to substantiate it. Since the Raven is at the top of the list does that mean it is the most powerful Battleship in Eve and others should be balanced against the capabilities of the Raven? Some people have implied that, however I believe it is unlikely given my "experiences" within eve. However we lack the data to substantiate it. The point of this is to show, that simply dropping some stats into the community is not enough. Careful consideration has to be given about the impact of those statistics and enough data has to be provided to allow a reasonable analysis of the data by those more inclined to do so. In an attempt to curb the trend to jump to unsubstatiated conclusions about what the data means.
Avon	Posted - 2006.01.12 17:26:00 - [43] Edited by: Avon on 12/01/2006 17:26:05 Originally by: Fi T'Zeh You may have a cookie if you can tell me WHY that is avon. (a cookie is a biscuit by the way) The moisture content of cakes is higher than the moisture content of air (on average), whereas biscuits have a lower moisture content. Cakes dry out when exposed to air, biscuits absorb mositure from the air. Cakes go hard, biscuits go soft. Baking methods and the way the ingredients are mixed have a large influence on the final moisture content, even though the actual recipes are very similar. ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Drahcir Nasom	Posted - 2006.01.12 18:27:00 - [44] Originally by: Zaldiri Originally by: Wee Dave Is it a cake or is it a biscuit? Only the tax man knows. Acctualy he dosent, its a big headache for the Inland revenue. It is definitely a cake. "As with all legislation, VAT law cannot keep up with the changes in society and must therefore be constantly interpreted to apply to current situations. For example the infamous UK Jaffa Cake case. Biscuits and cakes are considered a necessity by UK law and are zero rated. Chocolate covered biscuits however are a luxury and subject to VAT at 17.5%. McVities and HM Customs & Excise argued over whether the Jaffa Cake was a cake (no VAT) or a chocolate biscuit (lots of VAT). The argument had to be taken to a Tribunal (kind of like a court) to be resolved. In the end McVities baked a 12" Jaffa Cake which convinced the Tribunal Chairman of the general cakeiness of the Jaffa Cake." From this link http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A528040 Drahcir
DeODokktor	Posted - 2006.01.12 18:32:00 - [45] Originally by: Uther Doull to all the ppl who are saying devs have better things to do: how long do you think cooking up a few db queries will take? here's your answer, not very long... Dunno You'd be surprised I would think a few simple DB Querys in the actual game files would be easy to query too like If item = blueprint & build materials = 0 then item = **'d and do not release or if copy time per run of the tech2 ammo = 1/1000th of the actual build time of 1 item then the item = **'d or .. or .. or .. ;)
Harisdrop	Posted - 2006.01.12 19:25:00 - [46] Jaffa Cake = Moon Pie Moon Pie is better. the more logical people will be unable to curb the wild speculation I love that part of the message. I say CCP gives us a tool in the Marketing agents to send a qry statement in and get a evemail reply with data. This would only allow a formal request: where "Jita" solarsystem when itemnumber '00012354' range '20050101' '20060101' sort ordqty highprice -------------------------- Qoute: The single reason I even decided to give this game a shot was because of reading a post by a n00b crying about being ganked and losing everything. I just had to try
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.01.12 19:50:00 - [47] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Wee Dave Is it a cake or is it a biscuit? Only the tax man knows. It's a cake. Biscuits go soft when they go stale, cakes go hard - FACT. Beaten to it Working at work ftl
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2006.01.12 19:53:00 - [48] Originally by: Arakasai Edited by: Arakasai on 12/01/2006 17:11:31 Edited by: Arakasai on 12/01/2006 17:10:55 As anyone who has done data management will tell you, getting the data is easy ... making sense of it is more difficult. The battleship numbers are a good example. People immediately jumping to conclusions about what the numbers mean. Raven at the top, Typhoon at the bottom. Lots of immediate conclusions are made, conclusions that really lack the appropriate data to be made. I happen to work for an application company and the absolute worst mistake that can be made is allowing your clients to interprete a small snapshot of data. Ultimately, in a community like this one, if you release enough of the data some of the more trained people will develop a logical interpretation of the data. However, if you do not release a large enough subset of the data, you will get a large number of unrational responses and wild speculation as to what the numbers mean. Without the appropriate data, the more logical people will be unable to curb the wild speculation. Do the battleship numbers indicate that each person in eve has 1 battleship ... unlikely given my "experiences" within eve. However we lack the data to substantiate it. Since the Raven is at the top of the list does that mean it is the most powerful Battleship in Eve and others should be balanced against the capabilities of the Raven? Some people have implied that, however I believe it is unlikely given my "experiences" within eve. However we lack the data to substantiate it. The point of this is to show, that simply dropping some stats into the community is not enough. Careful consideration has to be given about the impact of those statistics and enough data has to be provided to allow a reasonable analysis of the data by those more inclined to do so. In an attempt to curb the trend to jump to unsubstatiated conclusions about what the data means. Well put, the fact that the raven is on top doesnt actually mean its the most used, it could mean its the least used with alot belonging to producers who have them on market. Im sure alot of people own a raven but dont actually fly it, I know I have a few in my hangar that have never been unpackaged. Id like to see what the stats are with regards to active ship, not the actual ammount of ships ingame OMG!!! sig removed without a note, WTF?!?!?! - Tenacha
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.01.12 20:27:00 - [49] what % of the eris' ingame are named "discordia"
JaffaCake	Posted - 2006.01.12 22:19:00 - [50] O_o stop talking about me!!!
Istvaan Shogaatsu	Posted - 2006.01.12 22:28:00 - [51] Jaffa cakes?
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.01.12 23:04:00 - [52] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Jaffa cakes? not exactly deliciously self centred, just like you (nothing personal, it was too good a comment to miss)
Shinnen	Posted - 2006.01.12 23:26:00 - [53] Originally by: Capsicum Originally by: MaxPower *Who can drink the most at the pub at lunchtime, and still convince the eve community they are sober Hows ami doing far so ? Oh come on now, that's worse than Parm's drunken impression! --- INFOD

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