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Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.31 01:38:00 -
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CCP owes a debt of gratitude to Kugutsumen.com for keeping :bittervets: interested in the things you manage not to ruin. Either unblock Kugutsumen or block half the internet. Or even better, remove linking period. DJ, you used to be a broski and now you're a raging ******.
FREE KUGU |
Rer Eirikr
Clearly Compensating The Dark Triad
34
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Posted - 2011.10.31 01:47:00 -
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The only part I don't understand in all of this is the ignorance surrounding Kugu. Granted the legends and fables of ~evil-doings and general faggotry~ surrounding the website are kind of interesting, but the fact that people actually buy into said ideas is... well sort of funny.
When I was a space-noob, okay when I was a bigger space-noob than I am now, I also experienced the ~shroud of mystery~ surrounding the Kugu community, but the reality is we're pretty much just another site to shoot the **** about EVE and whatever else we feel like blabbing about.
The censor doesn't really make sense to have anymore, and if they were to lift it I feel it would show just how much CCP really has changed. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
235
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Posted - 2011.10.31 05:10:00 -
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NGTM1R wrote:I'm sorry, but what game do you think you're playing again?
GǪ
No. This is no place for civility. You might want to try another game.
That you are incapable of distinguishing between forums and the game is a saddening tale indeed. There is also a difference between civil and civic minded, just as there is a gaping chasm in meaning between polite and altruistic.
You can be polite and civil towards people on the forums, while simultaneously being malicious and manipulative. Just keep the words acceptable in public, and don't go discussing exploits. Lawful Evil is still Lawful.
In the meantime, the popularity of your favourite site is maintained by it being a "in crowd" and the very name of the site being taboo. Why are you so hell-bent on destroying the reputation which makes your site so attractive to the crowd you want to attract?
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Jovan Geldon
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.10.31 05:23:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:NGTM1R wrote:I'm sorry, but what game do you think you're playing again?
GǪ
No. This is no place for civility. You might want to try another game. That you are incapable of distinguishing between forums and the game is a saddening tale indeed. There is also a difference between civil and civic minded, just as there is a gaping chasm in meaning between polite and altruistic. You can be polite and civil towards people on the forums, while simultaneously being malicious and manipulative. Just keep the words acceptable in public, and don't go discussing exploits. Lawful Evil is still Lawful. In the meantime, the popularity of your favourite site is maintained by it being a "in crowd" and the very name of the site being taboo. Why are you so hell-bent on destroying the reputation which makes your site so attractive to the crowd you want to attract?
What point you are trying to make, exactly, other than "HURRR I'm a smug pedantic sperglord" |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.10.31 05:43:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:
In the meantime, the popularity of your favourite site is maintained by it being a "in crowd" and the very name of the site being taboo. Why are you so hell-bent on destroying the reputation which makes your site so attractive to the crowd you want to attract?
First of all, that much traffic can hardly be called an 'in crowd', its more like the population of a small town.
Second of all, Darius (CCP Skreegs) just flat out lied and slandered the site, then had the thread he did it in locked by Navigator when the natives got restless.
Its pretty much going to be a matter of principle thing at this point, the more Skreegs douches up the joint the worse it ends up being. They should muzzle him, its literally in their best business interests if he never speaks or types on the internet again.
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Fix Lag
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Posted - 2011.10.31 05:56:00 -
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Posting to confirm Sreegs is a bad poster. |
Jean Leaner
Kickass inc Controlled Chaos
27
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Posted - 2011.10.31 06:14:00 -
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Free kugu ballgag sreegs |
Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.31 06:33:00 -
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Sreegs should do the opposite of living in a thing that has lots of heat. FREE KUGUTSUMEN! |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
893
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Posted - 2011.10.31 07:15:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Lorren Canada wrote:Anyone wana take bets on how long this thread will last before Manny spams it to death again? I'm pretty sure that your beloved and respected colleague Manny is taking a well-deserved break from the forums for a few days. Such is the peril of those who speak "truth" to "power", especially when said "truth" is spamming one word over and over and over again. That works for Buddhists meditating "facing the wall", or for the terrible posters on terrible fan sites with names that must not be mentioned. What works for EVE Online forums is posters who talk about the game and their interactions with other players in a civil manner. What works on your other forum is certainly not civil: your "good posts" are the equivalent of a drunk teenager mooning passing traffic on the highway in the middle of the night. That is to say, of no value other than the vulgar entertainment of the people constituting the "in crowd". Leaving the site that must not be named as a forbidden secret of the EVE Universe has worked better for that sites popularity than any other spruiking.
The general standard of posting on Kugu is far higher than on these forums because the community there actually care about post quality. On these forums using bad words and demonstrating that CCP Sreegs is a hilarious hypocrite are deprecated. On Kugu, using bad arguments and being averse to logic and facts are what get you the infractions and negreps.
Given the history of these forums, telling us that Kugu is censored for security reasons is particularly insulting. I suspect that the truth is actually that many in CCP enjoy reading Kugu and don't want to see the windowlicking rabble flooding in to ruin it. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
106
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Posted - 2011.10.31 08:00:00 -
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Occupy EVE Gate
Free k00g00tsumen.com
We are the 99% of gud posts |
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
236
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Posted - 2011.10.31 08:44:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:The general standard of posting on Kugu is far higher than on these forums because the community there actually care about post quality.
Hratli's Guide to Good Posting wrote:Don't get trolled. If someone posted something obviously provocatively wrong and you feel compelled to correct it and it wasn't posted by CrusaderKnight then you are probably about to get trolled.
The standard of posting on that site is so high, they have to have a guide to tell people to not use 4chan images, not use pass+¬ Internet memes, and remind people that it helps to actually read a post before responding. The posts of a quality that I would consider "good" or "useful" are written by a small handful of posters, most of them simply reposting CCP devblogs or EVE Online Forum posts, with an attached tail of dozens of "oh man, didn't see that coming from a mile away" responses, along with the usual trash from people like this:
Manny wrote:replace fGÇö with Screegs in the word filter.
Manny of course being the guy spamming the EVE Online forums with useless posts over the weekend, and this thread not being unique in its level of intellectual engagement and subject matter.
Yup. Nothing but quality posts over there. People who want it will find it. Leaving it censored adds to the mystique and allows children to pretend to be "bad boys", in the same way that riding a Harley Davidson lets them pretend to be a PTSD-suffering Vietnam Veteran.
Though I must compliment Mittens and Vinata on being intellectual giants in a sea of incompetents. |
Jovan Geldon
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.10.31 10:21:00 -
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And you, by comparison, are a shining beacon of ~goodposting~ in the deplorable morass that is the E-O forums, I'm sure |
Kan'loch Lacoud
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 10:24:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote: Though I must compliment Mittens and Vinata on being intellectual giants in a sea of incompetents.
I too enjoy spouting pseudo-intellectual drivel with a **** in each hand. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.10.31 10:43:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Malcanis wrote:The general standard of posting on Kugu is far higher than on these forums because the community there actually care about post quality. Hratli's Guide to Good Posting wrote:Don't get trolled. If someone posted something obviously provocatively wrong and you feel compelled to correct it and it wasn't posted by CrusaderKnight then you are probably about to get trolled. The standard of posting on that site is so high, they have to have a guide to tell people to not use 4chan images, not use pass+¬ Internet memes, and remind people that it helps to actually read a post before responding. The posts of a quality that I would consider "good" or "useful" are written by a small handful of posters, most of them simply reposting CCP devblogs or EVE Online Forum posts, with an attached tail of dozens of "oh man, didn't see that coming from a mile away" responses, along with the usual trash from people like this: Manny wrote:replace fGÇö with Screegs in the word filter. Manny of course being the guy spamming the EVE Online forums with useless posts over the weekend, and this thread not being unique in its level of intellectual engagement and subject matter. Yup. Nothing but quality posts over there. People who want it will find it. Leaving it censored adds to the mystique and allows children to pretend to be "bad boys", in the same way that riding a Harley Davidson lets them pretend to be a PTSD-suffering Vietnam Veteran. Though I must compliment Mittens and Vinata on being intellectual giants in a sea of incompetents.
So where else can you go for battlereports from both sides of, say, AAA vs RA, CFC vs whoever, PL vs everyone and pretty well any other fight that happens anywhere in null, or for political shenanigans, who's ******* who over this week, quality discussion of literature and kpop?
Certainly don't get any of that here.
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Leyla Constantine
University of Caille Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.10.31 10:51:00 -
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Not Supported!!!
Like my comment if you agree |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:00:00 -
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Someone needs to compile a list of the free kugu threads, make it easier to post in them as they come up if there is a thread of posts to them.
Oh yeah, free kugu. o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Vinata
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:45:00 -
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Kan'loch Lacoud wrote:Mara Rinn wrote: Though I must compliment Mittens and Vinata on being intellectual giants in a sea of incompetents.
I too enjoy spouting pseudo-intellectual drivel with a **** in each hand. it is really fun, I suggest you try it out! If I could offer a suggestion, it would be to experiment with "bears" - a subset of the gay community which is mostly big fat hairy men. That doesn't sound like it'd be a good thing (having sex with fat people is quite the workout!) but they make the most delicious meals. Every time I spout pseudo-intellectual drivel with one of their members in each of my hands, they cook me the nicest meal. My only concern is that I've been gaining quite a bit of weight lately. |
Kan'loch Lacoud
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 12:02:00 -
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Vinata wrote:Kan'loch Lacoud wrote:Mara Rinn wrote: Though I must compliment Mittens and Vinata on being intellectual giants in a sea of incompetents.
I too enjoy spouting pseudo-intellectual drivel with a **** in each hand. it is really fun, I suggest you try it out! If I could offer a suggestion, it would be to experiment with "bears" - a subset of the gay community which is mostly big fat hairy men. That doesn't sound like it'd be a good thing (having sex with fat people is quite the workout!) but they make the most delicious meals. Every time I spout pseudo-intellectual drivel with one of their members in each of my hands, they cook me the nicest meal. My only concern is that I've been gaining quite a bit of weight lately.
Thanks for the tip, I probably should have quoted the full post to clarify the statement as being directed at the poster, not the mentioned.
Also while we're on the subject, how do you combat the issue of hairballs? |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
236
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Posted - 2011.10.31 12:51:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:So where else can you go for battlereports from both sides of, say, AAA vs RA, CFC vs whoever, PL vs everyone and pretty well any other fight that happens anywhere in null, GǪ
EVE News 24! |
DreamTrooperX
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:24:00 -
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Eve news 24 is INCREDIBLY bias. Rivereni has a bad choice of words. Most things, if not all things, are exagerated by him.
Kugutsumen, is a place where we can display our own sides of each engagement. The site does have it's "in crowd", but as it stands, anyone can sign up for kugu, but not anyone can be a good poster. Neither will change.
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Grimbold Dengrist
Stargazer Exploration Company Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:24:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Danika Princip wrote:So where else can you go for battlereports from both sides of, say, AAA vs RA, CFC vs whoever, PL vs everyone and pretty well any other fight that happens anywhere in null, GǪ
EVE News 24!
You realize a good chunk of the "news" on that site is copy/pasted from Kugu, right? Most of the time it cites that as the source, but some times they forget.
Also, while it may appear that there is an "elite" crowd that posts on Kugu anyone can join it by being informative and not a complete sperglord. Example: Riverini is a ****** so he has a terrible rep, while many of the posters from TEST (a relatively young alliance with lots of new players) has many "in" posters who add content (mostly drama) to the site. |
DreamTrooperX
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
5
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:40:00 -
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Grimbold Dengrist wrote:[quote=Mara Rinn][quote=Danika Princip] Example: Riverini is a ****** so he has a terrible rep, while many of the posters from TEST (a relatively young alliance with lots of new players) has many "in" posters who add content (mostly drama) to the site.
Despite the general public image of TEST, there are many great guys in the alliance. Kugu attracts those who can have intellectual conversations, and brings out the best people from each alliance. There's alliance FCs, CEOs, CSM delegates, and many average members of each alliance. It's the best way to get opinions from all sides. |
Kan'loch Lacoud
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
0
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:55:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Danika Princip wrote:So where else can you go for battlereports from both sides of, say, AAA vs RA, CFC vs whoever, PL vs everyone and pretty well any other fight that happens anywhere in null, GǪ
EVE News 24!
Now I know i'm being trolled, get out of here riverini. |
Gicer
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.10.31 14:06:00 -
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Kugu never had to take his forum down because it was full of holes and exposed us to hackers.
Pretty sure CCP did.
He caught you with your pants down jerking off at the PC, we are willing to move on, maybe now you should? |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
78
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Posted - 2011.10.31 14:11:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Danika Princip wrote:So where else can you go for battlereports from both sides of, say, AAA vs RA, CFC vs whoever, PL vs everyone and pretty well any other fight that happens anywhere in null, GǪ
EVE News 24!
I meant to read decent things, not propoganda, opinions, guides on how to bot and things c/ped straight from kugu. |
Omega Flames
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
4
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Posted - 2011.10.31 15:12:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Danika Princip wrote:So where else can you go for battlereports from both sides of, say, AAA vs RA, CFC vs whoever, PL vs everyone and pretty well any other fight that happens anywhere in null, GǪ
EVE News 24! fyi evenews24 is NOT on the list of approved fansites either....wonder why their name isnt banned....oh ya its cause CCP is gay. |
Venetian Tar
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2011.10.31 15:55:00 -
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kick sreegs
free kugutsumen I don't hate you, I'm just not necessarily excited about your existance. |
Sylar McIntyr
Konstrukteure der Zukunft The Initiative.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.31 16:25:00 -
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Free FHC! |
NGTM1R
Schrodinger's Labs
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Posted - 2011.10.31 16:46:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:That you are incapable of distinguishing between forums and the game is a saddening tale indeed.
EVE lives and dies upon the ability of the forums to cause trouble. Alliances have lost space because they offended somebody on the forums (oh Blaster Worm, where art thou?) . Wars have been caused by the forums. Wars are often won and lost on the forums, since you can't actually deny an enemy the ability to make war save by making his pilots stop logging in.
Perhaps you're too new to remember any of this. Perhaps you never witnessed the incredible pile of flaming dog poop that was CAOD. But the only thing you're proving here is that you have no conception of the history and the culture of EVE.
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Murrior
La Blue Girl KUGUTSUMEN.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.31 16:56:00 -
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The funny part is that it's the most populated Eve fansite which runs since 2007 and we never actually had any complaints related to the accusations we are receiving, or in reality the excuses for keeping this useless filter; with its population even INCREASING every year.
Isn't it obvious that if any of this was really true it would have been reported over the years, at least by a few people and instead of having its memberbase increasing it would eventually become a deadzone (like shitheap but for totally different reasons)?
If CCP really grew up and did take the :honest: road it's about time to drop the egoistical nonsense that comes from the fact that the creator of the site did catch them once with their pants down and do what is only obvious; remove this damn filter. |
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