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Scarlet Dresari
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Posted - 2003.08.23 04:12:00 -
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I decided to write this topic since containers aren't really explained anywhere in the manual or knowledgebase but are extremely useful to anyone. Here's some top reasons to use them. If you know any others, post them :)
1) If you ever needed just a little more cargo space (or even a lot) you can use cargo containers (secure or normal) to give you more space. They actually contain more than their volume. E.g. by using a small cargo container, you can have 100m3 box that can contain 120m3 capacity! This situation makes them kind of like cargo expanders.
2) For pirate hunters, if you place all your unwanted loot into a container. You can recycle your container once you're at the base, and it'll recycle everything inside as well.
3) If you like mining, placing ore into secure containers will prevent ore thieves from taking it before you get your industrial to pick it up.
4) Secure containers are just good in general for transferring things to players in space or temporary storage since they last long a time and can only be picked up by people with the password.
5) If you're like me and don't like opening your hangar to see tons of items, you can also use containers to categorize things. Although you can't name them, splitting items into different containers is useful. For me, I like putting MED slot items in one, LOW slot ones in another, and everything else into a third container.
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Calalbran
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Posted - 2003.08.23 09:48:00 -
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Thanks for that - I hadn't thought of sticking everything in a container then refining it - certainly save me time.
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Tim Maser
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Posted - 2003.08.24 04:14:00 -
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Especially the use as folders. That's a huge thing I think they missed in the game. With only a week of play and just small 1000isk pirates, I had enough junk at my home station to make finding my ore to refine difficult. Can't image what it's like for more advance players.
They could of at least put in a filter option if not folders.
Also, I guess you can also use ships as folders. Such as a frigate, name it something like Medium Power, and use the ship window to get to these folders.
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Scarlet Dresari
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Posted - 2003.08.24 04:56:00 -
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Edited by: Scarlet Dresari on 06/09/2003 05:05:59
Hehe cool! I like that ship folder idea.
Too bad I don't have a huge garage yet, but in the future when I get more ships that sounds cool.
Good thing modules aren't that large, or you'd need industrials to carrying everything in your folders.
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Calalbran
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Posted - 2003.08.24 08:20:00 -
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Very useful if you keep losing ships and move to your main base to get a new one - you can end up with several noob ships at one station.
I wait normally until I have 200 items or so, then refine the junk down for minerals, and sell or keep the odd one.
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Don Ramere
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Posted - 2003.08.24 11:07:00 -
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I was going to use them for mining but do you know how much, let's say Veldspar, you can put in a Giant Secure Container? Didn't to waste cash on something I'm not gonna use.
Tried mining to a Medium can but you could only store about 3000 units in it so to make it worth the time I would have had to use about 20 containers!
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Scarlet Dresari
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Posted - 2003.08.24 20:08:00 -
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Good question. To give a quick answer, yes you would need a lot of large or medium containers to fill your industrial) (upwards of 10 and more)
If you look at the info on the type of ore you're mining, you can look at how much m3 (standard cargo space unit) it takes up. Then you can look at the cargo container's actual capacity. I think for giant size, it can hold 3900, while being only 3000 in your cargo hold.
A word of WARNING though, a note from Tassadar Beta in another post says:
"The [giant] containers havent been fully implemented yet, so the picture doesnt show up and the password feature isnt avaliable yet. Look to the next patch for the fixes."
This issue means that those huge and giant containers actually aren't really secure, so you should stick to the large secure ones for mining until they fix it. However, you can still use them for hauling and trading.
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Dr Snarl
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Posted - 2003.08.24 21:43:00 -
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The cargo space is the best one of the lot.
So all bottom slots with expanders and two giant tainers in the Indi
Major haulage power
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Don Ramere
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Posted - 2003.08.25 10:45:00 -
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Thanks Scarlet, I'll check it out when the bigger containers become secure.
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Diaego
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Posted - 2003.08.25 10:56:00 -
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Good information. Thanks for posting, Scarlet Dresari!
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DazWozUK
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Posted - 2003.08.25 11:26:00 -
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Beware the giant secure containers are not secure.
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Aeryn
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Posted - 2003.08.26 09:55:00 -
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And the one people seem to miss - they're good for transporting valuable cargo. They might not protect you from being blown up by pirates, but at least they won't get their hands on what's inside.
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Scarlet Dresari
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Posted - 2003.08.26 19:17:00 -
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Ahh thanks, very true. Especially for those great pirate loots and blueprints. Even if your ship is destroyed you can always come back to scoop it up.
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Scarlet Dresari
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Posted - 2003.08.30 01:01:00 -
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It's sort of already mentioned, but you can transfer things between alternates with secure containers since only people who know the password can scoop up the container. I find this useful since I play 2 characters on the same account.
This method is useful as you can both go to the same base and jettison the secure container outside the station and then log in with your alternate and pick it up from right outside the station.
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HitGirl
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Posted - 2003.08.30 10:02:00 -
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Gr8 info for the new one:)
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Kia Rayne
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Posted - 2003.09.06 05:17:00 -
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Thanks for the little tib bit on cargo containers. Really makes a difference for industrial users.
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Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2003.09.09 11:11:00 -
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 Quote:
1) If you ever needed just a little more cargo space (or even a lot) you can use cargo containers (secure or normal) to give you more space. They actually contain more than their volume. E.g. by using a small cargo container, you can have 100m3 box that can contain 120m3 capacity! This situation makes them kind of like cargo expanders.
so if i was to dump some Pyroxeres into space and the little cargo container appeared...how much ore can i get into one of thoser...and can i scoop that up so that i havge more ore than i can actually hold in my cargo?? or is there no limit?
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Orochi
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Posted - 2003.09.09 14:06:00 -
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When you jettison cargo, it creates a cargo container for you that will have nearly infinite capacity. However, this container will disappear after an hour or so and you cannot "scoop" it up to effectively increase your cargo size.
Also, if you are having trouble sorting you hangar, please take a look at the ASSETS button on the left side of your screen. That pop-up window gives you the option of sorting everything in your items list at that station based on certain categories. I find it MUCH easier than using cargo containers (and a LOT cheaper)
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Scarlet Dresari
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Posted - 2003.09.11 15:16:00 -
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Thanks for the heads up on the item sorting. It's great for a wide view of everything.
I just find having less items on the immediate hangar screen prevent scrolling for items and increase the performance slightly when you have a lot of modules and items if you're in windowed mode or don't have as good a computer. Since I keep literally everything at one base, even if I knew I had a module, I would have to scroll and sort to get it.
As for containers being expensive, yeah they're not cheap, but a medium or large (non-secure) container doesn't actually cost much if you're well established in the game.
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Kia Rayne
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Posted - 2003.09.15 19:52:00 -
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Hopefully containers will be even more useful once the Huge and Giant containers will be secure but I wonder whether deployment of the containers will make a large difference.
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Aki Fara
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Posted - 2003.09.20 18:33:00 -
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Well since the anchoring skill is required when deploying the secure ones into space with the current patch, it'll mean containers will be a little less useful as before since you need the skills and extra time.
Though, this situation shouldn't be too much of a problem for large industrial corps, but make it a little more difficult for independents.
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dracianius
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Posted - 2003.09.21 22:12:00 -
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I have been reading a few secure container threads, but I have never seen an exact figure for how long a secure container can hang out in space. Does anyone know this number?
Also, since huge and giant container now have to be anchored does this mean that they become permanent features of the galaxy and will therefore survive a server reboot?
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Kahed Mourn
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Posted - 2003.09.22 08:53:00 -
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Can anyone advise please. Are Gaint containers secure yet.
Also the anchor skill what is the bonus per lvl. Is it one deployable per lvl etc.
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Cain Calzon
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Posted - 2003.09.22 15:28:00 -
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yes, giant secure containers are secure, and no the anchoring skill isnt giving any extra bonus for the time being. probably will change later
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Marmeldjuke
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Posted - 2003.09.22 18:58:00 -
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What about if you get scanned,carrying a secure container?
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Aki Fara
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Posted - 2003.09.26 03:31:00 -
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As far as I know. scanners can't look beyond the container contents even if it is not secure, though someone can correct me. Besides, it wouldn't make much sense since the cargo is "secure" and if it's in space, you can't even see what inside, let alone in someone's cargo bay. Then again, it has to be anchored to be secure.
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Scarlet Dresari
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Posted - 2003.09.30 15:27:00 -
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There seems to be some confusion over containers in the forum, especially the giant ones and maybe those huge ones as well with the new patches.
The anchoring skill pertaining to secure containers is useful only if you need to have the containers sitting in space for whatever your operation, but you can use containers and their "bonus" cargo space in your ship (in your cargo hold) without anchoring them (thus you don't need that skill if you're just using them for that extra space, but then the non-secure ones would be cheaper unless you have deep pockets which then it doesn't matter).
Of course, you'll still need the capacity stated on the container which will always be *close* to the actual storage capacity. As mentioned in other posts, there is a 30% bonus in cargo capacity for such containers like the giant ones. So for the big haulers who want the giant ones, they take up 3000m3 *in your cargo hold* but hold 30% more.
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Scarlet Dresari
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Posted - 2003.09.30 15:32:00 -
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To correct my last post slightly, if you indeed need your cargo to be secure, which may be the case to provide insurance against pirates blowing you up and scooping your cargo, then according to another post you'll need to anchore the container and set a password.
I haven't confirmed this situation, but I'm guessing even if you blow up, you cargo is secure which is one good use of secure containers for ferrying expensive cargo like bps.
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Kia Rayne
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Posted - 2003.10.16 20:22:00 -
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Well it seems that containers are still very useful as always even with the achoring skill.
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