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dazedandconfused
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Posted - 2006.01.14 03:16:00 -
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Has any zealot pilot out there flown an absolution as well and compared the two? I have a pretty good idea of which is the better of the two, but I am just curious of the difference, since I use a zealot now and am training for an absolution.
Any idea of who sells them, if anyone, would be nice too.
Thanks 
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.01.14 03:20:00 -
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what the hell is an absolution? ;\
i suppose its a t2 bc? and if so, i doubt very few of these have been flown.
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dazedandconfused
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Posted - 2006.01.14 03:22:00 -
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I was hoping you would know what it was :P
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Megadon
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Posted - 2006.01.14 04:18:00 -
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It's an Amarr command ship built on a Prophecy chassis.
"The Battleships is and should be a solo pwnmobile." - Oveur
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HunchPunch
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Posted - 2006.01.14 04:59:00 -
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Absolution
the difference in bonus's is absolution has 5% bonus to all armor resistences and zealot instead has a bonus to med energy turret optimal range, that and absolution has the command ship bonus(obviously) i dont even want to know how much this thing is going to cost, it looks like a zealot on steroids, can tank alot better and do more damage.
wtb absolution
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TerrorWOLF
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Posted - 2006.01.14 09:01:00 -
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 Originally by: HunchPunch
Absolution
the difference in bonus's is absolution has 5% bonus to all armor resistences and zealot instead has a bonus to med energy turret optimal range, that and absolution has the command ship bonus(obviously) i dont even want to know how much this thing is going to cost, it looks like a zealot on steroids, can tank alot better and do more damage.
wtb absolution
And has the agility and speed of a BS.
May Your Death Be Slow And Painful
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Moadyb
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Posted - 2006.01.14 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: TerrorWOLF
Originally by: HunchPunch
Absolution
the difference in bonus's is absolution has 5% bonus to all armor resistences and zealot instead has a bonus to med energy turret optimal range, that and absolution has the command ship bonus(obviously) i dont even want to know how much this thing is going to cost, it looks like a zealot on steroids, can tank alot better and do more damage.
wtb absolution
And has the agility and speed of a BS.
Nope, it does not. 
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HunchPunch
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Posted - 2006.01.14 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: TerrorWOLF
Originally by: HunchPunch
Absolution
the difference in bonus's is absolution has 5% bonus to all armor resistences and zealot instead has a bonus to med energy turret optimal range, that and absolution has the command ship bonus(obviously) i dont even want to know how much this thing is going to cost, it looks like a zealot on steroids, can tank alot better and do more damage.
wtb absolution
And has the agility and speed of a BS.
well, it is pretty slow, not much faster then a bs, but im sure its more agile, and has about 100 less sig radius.
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kessah
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Posted - 2006.01.14 11:20:00 -
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give me 280m and il check for u, am dying to sell this f***ing faction bs and fly one had the skillz for 2 months now...
end rant.
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Vexed
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Posted - 2006.01.14 11:36:00 -
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I'm in the same boat as the OP. Loving my Zealot and really interested in an Absolution but still sceptical whether or not the increased tanking ability is outweighed by its much slower speed and agility and its bigger sig radius as I know this counts for a ton towards the Zealot's ability to tank.
Absolution does look like a monster on paper though.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.01.14 23:13:00 -
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Have all the bpos for these dropped yet? i'm not seeing many of these babies on the market at all.
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Gold Fish
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Posted - 2006.01.14 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Liet Traep
Have all the bpos for these dropped yet? i'm not seeing many of these babies on the market at all.
I expect production is delayed a bit cos you need cruiser construction lvl 5 to make them and I doubt a lot of the people have that yet. 
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:48:00 -
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It's too bad there aren't more of these being produced a little competetion would lower the prices and let more players have access to them. Are you listening CCP?
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.01.16 21:50:00 -
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Im paying 350 For the absolution and 280 for the Damnation so far :/
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Martinez
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:40:00 -
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i think they are going to rock. i think they will take the place of the zealot as the premire pvp ship.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:47:00 -
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With the cost, and agility of these, The only thing better is firepower... They don't tank like a zealot, even tho they have more hitpoint...
The ship is more versatile fitting wise, but it's still an expensive, slow, Semi agile perrot.
Zealot will remain a good ship and will ALWAYS be used more than the absolution.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:31:00 -
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You dont really have the cap for dual reps.
Or assuming you want to use it as a mission-wagon, a-type med/small reps.
At least, according to QF you cant run dual reps with 1 cap II and 2 cap relays. Not if you plan on shooting 6 Heavy Pulse II. Not very impressive tbh, and comparing its cap regen with the zealots im inclined to believe QF's simulation.
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Please fix the EW stacking bug, it's a disgrace!
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.01.17 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
Edited by: KilROCK on 16/01/2006 22:55:19
With the cost, and agility of these, The only thing better is firepower... They don't tank like a zealot, even tho they have more hitpoint...
(I am aware they got PG for dual armor rep, Capacitor to hold it, But you'll need cap relay, and it doesn't have enough med slot for cap boosters. You can put more NOS, but why bother gimping the 'possible' ownage DPS you can get)
The ship is more versatile fitting wise, but it's still an expensive, slow, Semi agile perrot.
Zealot will remain a good ship and will ALWAYS be used more than the absolution.
Auctually, the absolution will tank "much"/better than the zealot, the sig radius is against it though against larger targets.
But the 25% resistance from the BC bonus and applie to the ships resistance, and the the 25% RoF and 25% damage + 50% less cap usage for guns.
AND its large capacitor (2700 cap + skills = ?)
Its Very high Powergrid (Full rack of beams + Heavy tanks).
The only real cons is the sig radius and speed.
But yeah, the zealot will proberbly is still be used more, and thank god for that...
I really dont hope this ship will be a "Every man's ship"..
Im getting the Absolution the 27th and the Damnation Today.. Will make a post later on, how well they do.
/Mav
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Ardor
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Posted - 2006.01.17 10:33:00 -
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I dont have command ships so I dont have real experience. Following stuff is only theory.
The Asolution will be a great damage dealer. Compared to Zealot it has two more turret slots, same damage boni and an additional missile launcher. I guess Zealot pilots will badly miss the range bonus which allowed you to use Multifrequency crystals at greater ranges.
Tanking wise the Damnation is great. Same resistance as Sacrilege and one more low slot makes a great tank. Lower speed and a much greater sig radius makes me think the Sacrilege will still stay as the best tank, though. The Sacrilege also has a better cap/sec recharge compared to Absolution/Damnation.
The Damnation will find its place as fleet command ship with gang modules. Without testing I don't know what to think about the Absolution. At a first it looks great on paper but I think I will prefer the Zealot as damage dealer.
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.01.24 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Im paying 350 For the absolution and 280 for the Damnation so far :/
Mind mentioning your seller. Cause I've seen only one person selling the absolution. I'm sure there are others but I haven't seen any posts by them.
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Tobiron
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Posted - 2006.01.26 09:22:00 -
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Thought I'd chip in with my first impressions using an Abs.
Can it tank? Well, yes. I am set up specifically for Sansha NPC right now so have pasive thermal and em hardeners which with my armor compensation skills brings it to 81.7 em 77.5 ex 64.84 kin 70.26. 1 x med armor repair II seems to be more than good enough to tank 2 x BSs and 4 x Cruiser spawn. It's already been suggested to use Adaptive nano and that makes sense if you will be PVPing in it.
Can it do damage? Hhmmm, yes and no... Right now the Command ship bonus is borked. Your rate of fire INCREASES the higher you train. It's been adressed and fixed but hasn't been applied to TQ yet. The damge bonus doesn't seem to balance this out right now. However, in actual fighting experience, expect BSs to go down as fast as if you were using a Zealot. Imagine how much better it will be when the ROF bonus is fixed.
Is it Slow? It ain't quick, put it that way. That said, stick an AB on it and you can get in to optimal quicker.
Here's my first setup. It's a bit cap heavy and I guess I could lose a cap relay for a tracking enhancer.
6 x Heavy Beam Laser II
1 x E50 Nos
1 x Y-S8 Afterburner
1 x X5 webber
1 x F-B10 Cap recharger
1 x Med Repper II
2 x Local Cap relay
1 x radioisotope em
1 x radioisotope therm
2 x HS II
I will continue to fiddle and if anyone interested I'll post the set ups etc.
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.01.26 10:45:00 -
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Linkage
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