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Redundancy
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Posted - 2003.08.23 18:57:00 -
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28th of August - We've now got a script (Thank you CCP!) that should be able to recreate the FCC each time a mirror from tranquility takes place. The downside to this is that testing it has broken the current corp.
For the meantime (until the next update, which CCP are trying to do once a week), please go instead to Planet 2 of pf-346 and join the second fight club corp.
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2003.08.28 19:24:00 -
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(cleared out previous replies about the lack of a script after editing the topic, since I realised it was a little confusing.)
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Johnson McCrae
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Posted - 2003.08.29 09:33:00 -
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So THATS what happened. 
Bet the script wasn't as intuitive as it should have been. But at least it works after a fashion. 
It ain't over till the fat lady falls on ya!
[ 2004.10.09 02:50:23 ] (combat) Your 425mm Compressed Coil Gun I perfectly strikes Guardian Sentry, wrecking for 747.3 damage.
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2003.08.29 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: Redundancy on 29/08/2003 18:05:20
29th of August - Apparently the test script for recreating the corporation has been tried again, so FCC2 may also be in dire straits (since most of the characters with high level access have probably been removed). Until we get this all sorted out, I'm afraid we can't really keep making corps and putting in the work moving things.
Update - we're all having trouble opening the corp windows for the affected corps. Some people still have access to the hangars though, you may be able to get them to get the items out for you if you ask nicely.
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Talhlia
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Posted - 2003.08.30 09:06:00 -
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You know its difficult to test on the test server when our characters aren't updated or trained uptil recently.
My idea is to allow us to train skills on the test server without having to put the time in.
Basically would it be possible to add special skill books that would set a skill to a specific value.
Example: I get a 'Gunnery - 5' book from the hangar and train it...now I have Gunnery to 5.
Or I get the 'Amarr Battleship - 3' skillbook so I can test if there's a difference between having a skill of 2 and 3.
ALOT of these problems with skills can be found by us if you added these special skill books ONLY on the test server...heck add them to the script that setups the Fight club corporation hangar.
I really do appreciate you guys setting up the the Fight club corp on the test server. We're able to test all the modules in the game very easily.
PS: Please make these special-test-server-only skill books trainable in space. Would be great to shoot a couple of times, then change my skill level while in space to see and document the differences. 
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2003.09.01 12:51:00 -
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1st September - It looks like the original FCC at planet 1 is fixed. Everyone back to that one. (I updated the skills so that all the races should be able to join today).
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2003.09.01 16:16:00 -
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(mini update)
The FCC joining is working for everyone who left FCC during the time we were having problems. Other people who were still members, still can't join.
At this point in time, you may be able to join either FCC or FCC2 depending on your situation.
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Talhlia
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Posted - 2003.09.03 19:27:00 -
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Any offical reply from CCP on the 'no-time-only-on-Chaos skill books'?
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ToKE
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Posted - 2003.09.03 22:45:00 -
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how about using the in game news page on chaos to list changes and what you would like us to test? that way we would know whats going on and what you want testing most
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2003.09.05 08:11:00 -
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VERY good suggestion Toke
If we are to conduct any serious testing. It would be good to know WHAT is wanted to test. I'll gladly help a bit. (I mean.. the original server is down an hour a day. :)
This "Ok guys - Go test!" isn't very constructive and the biggest reason not much is happening.
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-"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo |
Redundancy
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Posted - 2003.09.05 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Redundancy on 05/09/2003 15:21:48
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Any offical reply from CCP on the 'no-time-only-on-Chaos skill books'?
It's something we've asked about in the past, but I don't have an official response on it.
I rather suspect that for the most part, it's simply going to involve training up your character on the liver server, with more freqent copies of that database over to the chaos server, but that in no way constitutes an authorative answer on the matter. As much as access to everything is very useful, it's also very useful to get a lot of people who dont have uber-characters and skills to test things, and using characters from the live server allows for that to be done in a realistic manner.
Update 5th Sept - Chaos security
We occasionally have problems with people misbehaving (especially about the rules of consensual combat). At the moment, we have some minor ways to deal with this, and some major ways to deal with it. The minor ways involve the loss of property and a long time spent making your way back to the testing system, and the major ways involve removal of the ability to log onto chaos.
Partly as a testing exercise in automated blockades, and partly to give us more options, we will at some point in the nearish future start placing deployable sentry guns in the system and at the entrances. These sentry guns will be set to attack anyone who has a significantly bad standing to the test corp, and will ignore combat itself. We will be using them to enforce timed bans from the test system.
I'm sure I'll add an update when we start introducing this. I guess this counts as advanced warning.
Problems that affect FCC: update
1196 has a bug which prevents characters from having their applications to corporations accepted. This is going to make it impossible to accept any more people to either of the test corps at the moment.
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2003.09.06 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Redundancy on 10/09/2003 02:47:05
6th of September - Original issues with joining the FCC after being booted by the script may well still apply, but the bug that was affecting corp applications has been fixed.
To sumarise the current status:
Those who were not members of FCC when the script was run last can rejoin the FCC corp.
Those who were members of FCC when the script as last run are most likely unable to rejoin for the moment, and should apply to FCC2 at planet 2.
Current patch status as of this post
1186-1187 is broken.
Please use the following patches:
Version 1197
http://patch.eve-online.com/test/evepatch1196-1197.exe
Version 1196
http://patch.eve-online.com/test/evepatch1195-1196.exe
Version 1195
http://patch.eve-online.com/test/evepatch1194-1195.exe
Version 1194
http://patch.eve-online.com/test/evepatch1193-1194.exe
Version 1193
http://patch.eve-online.com/test/evepatch1192-1193.exe
Version 1192
http://patch.eve-online.com/test/evepatch1166-1192.exe
http://eve.skjalfti.is/test/evepatch1166-1192.exe
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Talhlia
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Posted - 2003.09.10 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: Talhlia on 10/09/2003 02:53:41
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...it's also very useful to get a lot of people who dont have uber-characters and skills to test things, and using characters from the live server allows for that to be done in a realistic manner.
I would just as well set my Gunnery to 1 and see what happens with a gun as I would my Gunnery to 5.
I think it would be great to test the difference between a level 2 and a 3 in a Battleship skill to quickly see if the bonuses for a particular ship skill are working correctly. The point is NOT to make an army of uber characters on Chaos, the point is to be able to test the effectiveness of skills at various levels quickly.
One person could test a variety of skills at various levels systematically, rather than have several random people test the same set of skills with their 'real' characters. As you konw the synchronization between the servers can take WEEKS...now skill level changes could be done in seconds.
Please keep insisting that this will be implemented. The time spent would definiately reduce the number of bugs for skills dramatically as we could give you guys feedback with only a few minutes of testing rather than a few weeks of petitions...
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Phyo
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Posted - 2003.09.11 04:16:00 -
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Edited by: Phyo on 11/09/2003 04:18:14
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As much as access to everything is very useful, it's also very useful to get a lot of people who dont have uber-characters and skills to test things, and using characters from the live server allows for that to be done in a realistic manner.
I just joined the test server for the first time, in order to be able to test deep core mining .. whenever it comes into the game.. and refining platforms..
How will you suggest we test it, first train up specific new skills over a period of a week on Tranquility ?
Thats gonna be a long testing period
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Quiz
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Posted - 2003.09.11 11:02:00 -
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Most of the changes in this patch concerns battleship weapons, so it should be a priority to mirror the tranq user data asap. That way as many as possible have battleship access.
Chaos should be updated every week with the character from Tranq. Why isnt this the case? And when is the next transfer?
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Runefinger
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Posted - 2003.09.12 00:46:00 -
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i would love a new update means i can finally test if projectiles are really gonne be worthwile in a tempest compared to hybrid/lasers
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Sabercat
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Posted - 2003.09.12 09:46:00 -
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I've been trying to accept the offer from Fcc2 for the last few days and there is no option to accept it. Is that bug for offer accepting still there? Talking to others in Chaos I'm not the only one with this problem. Can someone please fix this.
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Quiz
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Posted - 2003.09.12 11:46:00 -
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I accepted the offer to FCC2 just a few days ago, it worked fine...maybe something has changed in the last few days then?
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Sabercat
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Posted - 2003.09.13 00:42:00 -
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Maybe something is screwed up. I Recieved the offer eve-mail from FCC2 but when I press the corp button and go to applications there is no App from FCC2 to accept. Hope it gets figured out soon.
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Redundancy
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Posted - 2003.09.14 15:15:00 -
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Sabercat - please provide a bug report that includes a description, screenshot of the offer evemail with the list of available offers, and a logserver lbw file of opening the screen to see the offers.
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Morgit Seebring
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Posted - 2003.09.16 11:29:00 -
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I had a small problem with accepting my offer into FCC, but found it cleared after I exited my TQ corp... Maybe that will help.
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Amrone
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Posted - 2003.09.17 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Amrone on 17/09/2003 16:40:34
U have to go to the CORP HAT icon on left bar to gain access to the corp u dont join the usal way ... well i didnt :)
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H3R0
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Posted - 2003.09.17 22:27:00 -
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We've had several of these now and to be quite frank they don't work.
They are basically untested - you cannot count chaos as "testing" as nobody there is actually testing the specific code changes as they don't know what they are. NB - patch notes and dev comments do not constitute a basis for even the most basic testing. I have fairly extensive experience of s/w dev and project management of s/w dev. Here are your failings :
a) No QA (or if they exist they are absymal);
b) Programmers are not using version control, or if they are it is haphazard to say the least;
c) The person dealing with the UI does not have the remotest clue what he is doing. I cannot emphasise this too strongly. Get someone who has been trained in MMI or just leave it alone!;
d)I for one am fed up of huge exploits (and you know what they are) going on for months on end.
I am part of your customer base and to be quite honest I don't think you can "do the job". You wait weeks and then unveil a basically untested patch that encompasses multiple areas - many of which didn't actually need any work.
I am actually on the verge of giving up now (which is unfortunate as you've just got 3 months more subs from my CC) - the reason? You seriously do not have a clue what to patch and when to patch. I honestly feel that your entire codebase is now in an uncontrolled state.
Get your act together - fast.
This message was from en thread made by Agrizla, just want u to see this and not say u didnt.
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Quiz
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Posted - 2003.09.21 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Quiz on 21/09/2003 11:56:33
As I said in the irc channel, its definently time to implement some changes on chaos.
I suggest the following:
1) For every build, have a list of known bugs that are accessable to all players on chaos. Every bug should have a status. This status would tell if the bug currently is being worked on and if so, what kind of feedback is required from users. It should also say if the bug is fixed already. There should be a dev responsible that one could mail with the visual results of testing, log server outputs etc etc. That way users can actually HELP a lot as they get information about what needs to be tested and who to get in touch with.
Example:
Build 1212
Bug, Status, Contact Person, Comments
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User prefs not saving, Work in Progress, [BH]Eight ([email protected]), N/A
Or something like it. Come on, lets make the user base able to help so we dont get these stupid small bugs in the next transfer to TQ!
Edit: Appearently there is a eve-chaos channel on Chaos which is used for getting in touch with people for testing stuff. I didnt know. :)
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Sylia Masters
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Posted - 2003.09.21 12:04:00 -
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But some bugs should not be listed. As Exploiters would be jumping for joy, employing said bugs on the main server.
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Quiz
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Posted - 2003.09.22 10:26:00 -
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Right.
Hmm, no response at all from CCP to this. I know its a ancient request that players have wanted since eve began, but nothing has happened.
Maybe they prefer to have every new patch cause civil disorder for a few days and then patch the patch to make it all work as it is supposed to. This has occured for every new patch since I started playing and I guess thats the way they want it then. Its a shame though. Patch day is known for its problems and major nerfs instead of being something enjoyable. All the problems often shadow the good accomplishments made by the developers.
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ToKE
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Posted - 2003.09.26 19:50:00 -
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Autopilot is still knocking itself off
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javer
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Posted - 2003.10.02 19:44:00 -
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is it possible to get a chaoz update as most ppl are seriously lagging on training and skills on chaoz compared to tq server now.
also some new ppl in my corp cant actually test anything since their login doesnt work on chaoz as of this date
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Nemiyen
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Posted - 2003.10.02 20:53:00 -
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is it possible to get a chaoz update as most ppl are seriously lagging on training and skills on chaoz compared to tq server now.
also some new ppl in my corp cant actually test anything since their login doesnt work on chaoz as of this date
I agree, an update is NEEDED - it's over 1 month and nearly 2 weeks out of date!
I don't even have my characters transfered yet because I satarted after the 23rd of August!
You say you want people to test things on chaos, but to get an accurate testing ground it needs to be kept as much upto date as the real server as possible...
There's no point checking for bugs / problems on chaos because if for example, there's a bug with certain skills or equipment they can use on TQ but how can they test it and report it on chaos if there character is over 1 month out of date .
It's, silly
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Majin Buu
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Posted - 2003.10.02 21:34:00 -
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my char in chaos is about 1.5 mill skill points behind now :(
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voogru
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Posted - 2003.10.03 07:12:00 -
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I think on chaos the devs/GM's should be able to make your attributes insanely high so skills train super fast, I dont see what would be so hard in doing that.
Maybe even add a command for players to be able to change thier skills, which would allow you to "downgrade" a skill to test bonus's etc. This would make testing not only more fun, but much faster, In my opinion.
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Blikje
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Posted - 2003.10.06 10:35:00 -
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Uhm, okay, apparently i'm the only one here not able to download the patches from the test server patch page, could someone post the links from 1230 to the newest ones?
To make sure we won't be left with wasted space in our industrials hey should make their cargospaces devideable by the biggest item there is.....
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Bjorn Nilfheim
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Posted - 2003.10.10 06:56:00 -
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sorry to take the spotlight redundancy, but i wated the other players to know that chaos is up and has been mirrored again.
Admiral of the Forsaken Fleets
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lynxlynx
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Posted - 2003.10.12 10:26:00 -
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does ccp staff ever come here and read these answers?
I see no reply or even a "soon(tm)" reply... |
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