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Lyticus
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Posted - 2006.01.14 14:43:00 -
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Hey everyone.
Lately I've been fiddling around with some EWAR alternatives, and I have started using two jammers on my ship on the test server. Interestingly enough, I fought an Armageddon and I had a racial jammer (White noise) and I barely jammed him at all, however later I fought a Raven and I only had multispectral jammers fitted. This time, I seemed to jam the raven far more often.
Both fights were fought at below 10km, around about 4km I believe.
Interestingly enough, racial jammers have a higher optimal range than multispectral jammers. Whereas the falloff difference is quite small. Is it possible for my jammers to be ineffective at close range because of the falloff?
I have heard conflicting reports about how it works, some say that as long as you are BELOW the optimal, the jam chance isn't affected by range, others say it is. Can someone please clarify this for me? Thanks in advance.
- Lyticus
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Mangold
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Posted - 2006.01.14 14:51:00 -
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I have experienced the same with racial jammers at close range. I don't know how it is supposed to work though.
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2006.01.14 17:44:00 -
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from what i gather, optimal is just the farthest range at which they will work at 100%, once into falloff the chance of jamming is reduced further, basicly the same with using guns, if would of thought that using an ecm at e.g. 50km optimal would have the same effect as using it at 500m, since ecm dont suffer tracking as such
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Lithiani
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Posted - 2006.01.14 17:49:00 -
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He could well have had ECCM fitted. Either that or you just got unlucky.
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Lyticus
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Posted - 2006.01.15 00:16:00 -
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Thanks for the replies, but I'd like some more opinions on this one, bump :)
- Lyt
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Lyticus
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Posted - 2006.01.15 02:43:00 -
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zomg, teh bump.
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Lyticus
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Posted - 2006.01.15 08:27:00 -
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bump
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Demon Johnson
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Posted - 2006.01.15 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lithiani He could well have had ECCM fitted. Either that or you just got unlucky.
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2006.01.15 11:21:00 -
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I think you were just unlucky with the Armageddon and then conversely lucky against the Raven. Don't forget the system is just like rolling a dice for each ECM module activated up to the optimal range then there's a decreased chance up to the end of the fall off.
So if the racial ECM has strength 9 and the Armageddon has strength 22 (not sure if that's right but it'll do for the example) then you would have a 41% chance of jamming him.
Then the multispectral strength 5 against Raven strength 22 would give a 23% chance of jamming. The distance wouldn't come into it until out of optimal range.
At least that is my understanding of how it works. 
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Lyticus
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Posted - 2006.01.15 12:51:00 -
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Yeah, I did some testing tonight on singularity and I found that with a racial my chances of jamming were higher, regardless of close/mid range.
Thanks for the comments all.
- Lyticus
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LoKesh
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: LoKesh on 16/01/2006 22:32:36 What you have to remember about ECM is that it's all based on statistics. If you have 6 jamming strength against a target with 18 sensor strength you have a 1/3 chance of jamming them. This does not mean you will jam that once in every three tries - it merely means that, on average, you might expect a succes once every three attempts...
Over a large number of attempts (hundreds) you'll get 1/3, in a small number it could be anywhere from 0% to 100% - It's all just a roll of the dice.
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