Neither of you seem to have been keeping up with all things EVE. I must say though that at least the original poster isn't putting words in other people's mouth. The last poster i quoted asks how can he kill someone if they can simple run away, how about making it so that if the fleet with the hybrid afterburners engages they are stuck unless a cyno is lite right near them, there by activating its ability for a "run away". WHEW i nearly died thinking of that.

I agree that Vodiann's idea isn't sound as it stands, however he at least is on the right train of thought with what ccp is wanting to do. While the rest of you nay sayers just describe fleets you've witnessed. Get over it because engagements will have new sets of conditions and EVE combat will change... if the player community doesn't want to help guide it then so be it. That's cool you all think you're the best FC's out there. Isn't Vodiann so lucky to get all this FC advice that has nothing to do with what he was talking about.

You may not be guilty of putting words in other people's mouths, but damn you sure did miss the point I was making about the "running away" comment. I was responding to the claim of getting more kills. Getting more kills will be hard if you can tackle the bastards. You know that. I know that. That is the whole point of tackle modules. But these suggestions render those modules less useful.

Oh, and who is often tackle in gangs and fleets? Why the new people. The people who do have t2 large guns, WU 5, let alone AWU 5. So they can get in the main line fleet doctrine ships, so they get in the tackle ships. So this is could very well be a partial nerf to new players getting into PvP.



Thank you for the pompous and arrogant lecture, Dad.

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To everyone else, CCP is already ahead of me on where i was going with this. Likely why people stopped replying their trolling because all i have to do is link this and between the bubble immune interceptors and the cyno jammer you pretty much get the evolution of what i was thinking AND showing that there was in fact a problem to be solved. But feel free to claim the devs have been working on those changes for no reason at all. I dont care cause im considering this thread complete given the changes i wanted to see have been introduced =).

No, your ******** suggestion has not been introduced or even considered, bubble-immune interceptors are introduced for more efficient tackling (opposite of your ******** idea), and mobile cyno jammers are a tactical tool just as available to hotdroppers as anyone else.

There still isn't a problem.

"pompous and arrogant" coming from the guy who assumes he wasn't understood. You're still making claims that this concept states tackling is impossible. Totally missing what was said. The OP never said it must be 100% of all forms of tackle be nullified. Vodiann did at first it looked like he meant that, but it made sense that the focus was shifted toward cynos and bubbles. I think Vodiann should have come more prepared with his idea, but lets face it most people don't. So his attempt to make it clear and short was enough i cared to read it. Stupid how terrible it was received.

Pompous and arrogant to come to a idea discussion thread acting like you've got it all figured out. If you do not care for the idea then what do you care about to keep you coming back?

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Problem: pvp hesitation among pvp organizations.
Solution: A careful change to the games ship capture mechanism.
Tool: "Hybrid Module" example: Hybrid Afterburner
Effect: Reduces effectiveness of all forms of warp disruption when multiple modules of the same type exist with-in a fleet.
--emphasis added

No, your ******** suggestion has not been introduced or even considered, bubble-immune interceptors are introduced for more efficient tackling (opposite of your ******** idea), and mobile cyno jammers are a tactical tool just as available to hotdroppers as anyone else.

There still isn't a problem.