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Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:38:00 -
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I have found many stars older than the age of the universe!
Nobel please... |
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ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:44:00 -
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Congratulockations!
Quote:19. All posts must be related to EVE Online.
Posts regarding other companies and products or services are prohibited and any content of this nature will be removed. Posts regarding other games are however permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum for the purposes of discussion only. ISD Eshtir Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons Interstellar Services Department @ISD_Eshtir | @ISD_CCL |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:30:00 -
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1. You are right. The stars in the eve universe are sometimes much older than you would expect.
The oldest star is 91102232369.3557 years old. 91 billion that is.
there are quite a few stars older than our universe: >15 billion: | 2595 | >20 billion: | 1967 |
>30 billion | 1075 |
> 40 billion: | 582 |
>50 billion | 317 |
> 60 billion | 136 |
>70 billion | 54 |
> 80 billion: | 9 |
>90 billion: | 1 |
Given all that I would say you were in line for a Nobel, except for one thing. You are not the first to notice this feature.
ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
155
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:31:00 -
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ISD Eshtir wrote:My fellow team mate Cura has done the math and he said you are correct. While i cant give you a nobel prize, i will unluck your thread! Congratunlockations! 
LOL Thanks man! |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
252

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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:31:00 -
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I got these calcs by doing this query on the mapCelestials table from the database dump.
select count(*) from mapCelestialStatistics where spectralClass <> '0.0' and (age/31557600) > 90000000000;
replace the last number with your favorite billion. ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
155
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:34:00 -
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ISD Cura Ursus wrote:1. You are right. The stars in the eve universe are sometimes much older than you would expect. The oldest star is 91102232369.3557 years old. 91 billion that is. there are quite a few stars older than our universe: >15 billion: | 2595 | >20 billion: | 1967 | >30 billion | 1075 | > 40 billion: | 582 | >50 billion | 317 | > 60 billion | 136 | >70 billion | 54 | > 80 billion: | 9 | >90 billion: | 1 | Given all that I would say you were in line for a Nobel, except for one thing. You are not the first to notice this feature.
Ok...this...THIS is the smoking gun to my suspicion we live in a simulated universe.
Sure, there was the flashing planets that you could quickly see stars behind...and then when you warp away from them you see the stars int he SAME PLACE you saw them when the planet flickered.
I won't get into all the suspiciousness of simulated reality...but THIS, I think, proves we live in a simulated universe!
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
732
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:38:00 -
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Nuela wrote:ISD Cura Ursus wrote:1. You are right. The stars in the eve universe are sometimes much older than you would expect. The oldest star is 91102232369.3557 years old. 91 billion that is. there are quite a few stars older than our universe: >15 billion: | 2595 | >20 billion: | 1967 | >30 billion | 1075 | > 40 billion: | 582 | >50 billion | 317 | > 60 billion | 136 | >70 billion | 54 | > 80 billion: | 9 | >90 billion: | 1 | Given all that I would say you were in line for a Nobel, except for one thing. You are not the first to notice this feature. Ok...this...THIS is the smoking gun to my suspicion we live in a simulated universe. Sure, there was the flashing planets that you could quickly see stars behind...and then when you warp away from them you see the stars int he SAME PLACE you saw them when the planet flickered. I won't get into all the suspiciousness of simulated reality...but THIS, I think, proves we live in a simulated universe! Nope, EVE is real. |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:39:00 -
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That oldest star is an M9-V spectral Type according to the database.
According to wikipedia, that type of star can live for trillions of years, theoretically.
So......perhaps the Eve universe is just set in the future by about 80billion years. ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
71
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:41:00 -
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I was going to say, considering that Eve physics are nothing like the laws of reality we have in our universe my interpretation was that the Eve Gate was a wormhole to an entirely different universe, with different physical laws and apparently also age. Imiarr's Services: The Standing Correction Agency : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=41506
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.09.23 19:46:00 -
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Imiarr Timshae wrote:I was going to say, considering that Eve physics are nothing like the laws of reality we have in our universe my interpretation was that the Eve Gate was a wormhole to an entirely different universe, with different physical laws and apparently also age. ISD Cura Ursus wrote:That oldest star is an M9-V spectral Type according to the database. According to wikipedia, that type of star can live for trillions of years, theoretically. So......perhaps the Eve universe is just set in the future by about 80billion years. Where is it and what is its age?
ISD Cura Ursus wrote: The oldest star is 91102232369.3557 years old. 91 billion that is.
I did not bother looking up where it is at, as I would have had to load another couple data tables. If I get a chance I will do that tonight. ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
916
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:41:00 -
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Arnatele
Edit: linking fail. vOv |

stoicfaux
3141
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:08:00 -
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Time is a side effect, not a fundamental component of the universe. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=280115&find=unread
Quote: the new amplituhedron research suggests space-time, and therefore dimensions, may be illusory anyway.
GÇ£We canGÇÖt rely on the usual familiar quantum mechanical space-time pictures of describing physics,GÇ¥ Arkani-Hamed said. GÇ£We have to learn new ways of talking about it. This work is a baby step in that direction.GÇ¥ ... That is, giving up space and time as fundamental constituents of nature and figuring out how the Big Bang and cosmological evolution of the universe arose out of pure geometry.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
2040
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Posted - 2013.09.23 22:54:00 -
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ISD Cura Ursus wrote:That oldest star is an M9-V spectral Type according to the database. According to wikipedia, that type of star can live for trillions of years, theoretically. So......perhaps the Eve universe is just set in the future by about 80billion years. Or maybe the New Eden Wormhole transited space *and* time...
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1123
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Posted - 2013.09.24 04:10:00 -
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ISD Cura Ursus wrote:select count(*) from mapCelestialStatistics where spectralClass <> '0.0' and (age/31557600) > 90000000000;
I find the fact that you store the age of stars in seconds much more amusing than the OP. |

Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
103
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Posted - 2013.09.24 04:30:00 -
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Devs please nerf the stars now ! They use falcons to cheat on their age. |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.09.24 05:00:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:ISD Cura Ursus wrote:select count(*) from mapCelestialStatistics where spectralClass <> '0.0' and (age/31557600) > 90000000000; I find the fact that you store the age of stars in seconds much more amusing than the OP.
by "you" I hope you mean CCP and not me, as this is a table from the data dump. ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2013.09.24 05:38:00 -
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I ask myself that all the time...
... I'm not sure which subject that I'll wake up with an inspiration in and magically be able to produce a paper worthy of peer review (actually superior review I guess) and having all the experts say "How could he have thought of that"
I suppose I better get around to owning a football team and directing an oscar winning movie before i start working on the Nobel |

Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
4
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Posted - 2013.09.24 05:46:00 -
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Well one of the other questions into this.. what was the Earth date when the New Eden wormhole collasped?
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ZeeWolf Novus
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2013.09.24 05:55:00 -
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Garandras wrote:Well one of the other questions into this.. what was the Earth date when the New Eden wormhole collasped?
8061 AD |

Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
122
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Posted - 2013.09.24 06:02:00 -
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Maybe the worm hole to EVE was just a route to another Universe within the MetaVerse that much older than the Universe that the MilkyWay Galaxy resides in.
"I guess we are no longer in Kansas" 
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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
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Posted - 2013.09.24 12:15:00 -
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In all the >9.5 years I've been in New Eden I've never thought to check the Info on a Star or even that they had ages!!! Mind-blown and now I'll be looking more closely at my environment. Generally too busy looking in awe at the scenery...it's truly a beautiful universe.
@ISD Cura Ursus: Love that you delved into the database and nice to throw some likes your way for all you do in F&I (my usual haunt) and for adding to this thread. Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
524
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Posted - 2013.09.24 15:12:00 -
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Merovee wrote:Maybe the worm hole to EVE was just a route to another Universe within the MetaVerse that much older than the Universe that the MilkyWay Galaxy resides in. "I guess we are no longer in Kansas"  That would explain the weird 'Submarines in Space' physics... CCP, debuff Barges, or buff Ganking. Either will do for me, but we need more Yaaar! in this game lest it become WoW in Spaaaaace! -á~ Me |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.09.24 17:23:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Merovee wrote:Maybe the worm hole to EVE was just a route to another Universe within the MetaVerse that much older than the Universe that the MilkyWay Galaxy resides in. "I guess we are no longer in Kansas"  That would explain the weird 'Submarines in Space' physics...
Actually that is explained quite nicely by warp drives. Your ship's warp drive induces a drag on the ship relative to the greater universe, IIRC.
ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
2042
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Posted - 2013.09.25 01:22:00 -
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ISD Cura Ursus wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:Merovee wrote:Maybe the worm hole to EVE was just a route to another Universe within the MetaVerse that much older than the Universe that the MilkyWay Galaxy resides in. "I guess we are no longer in Kansas"  That would explain the weird 'Submarines in Space' physics... Actually that is explained quite nicely by warp drives. Your ship's warp drive induces a drag on the ship relative to the greater universe, IIRC. Which would mean your ship would be dragged and tossed about not unlike a leaf on the ocean. Unless some other bit of physics were in play... Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
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Loed Kane
Viziam Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:46:00 -
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my brain exploded Im looking for a corp! click here to see what im looking for!https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=279841Follow me on Twitter @loedkanex |

Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
1333
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Posted - 2013.09.25 02:55:00 -
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I'm sorry but I don't think you can get a Nobel Prize. Your discovery is amazing, but not idealistic and liberal enough, sorry.
Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
2661
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Posted - 2013.09.25 06:19:00 -
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/puts on science hat
Our current understanding when it comes to the age of the universe is based on this small detail: we have been fixed to one place and light has traveled here for 13.7 billion years.
If we traveled to something like UDFj-39546284, would our current model of the universe still hold?
Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9447
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Posted - 2013.09.25 07:26:00 -
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I was going to say something that I thought was clever then realize I was all wrong so this is all that I will post #fakescientist
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Loed Kane
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.25 07:34:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I was going to say something that I thought was clever then realize I was all wrong so this is all that I will post #fakescientist
aww, i was hoping for a laugh! Im looking for a corp! click here to see what im looking for!https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=279841Follow me on Twitter @loedkanex |

Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.25 13:58:00 -
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Yes, but I am much more pretty. |
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