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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.09.29 08:10:00 -
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Freako X wrote:Right now, it is difficult to actively impact systems deep in a large alliances sovereignty.
I feel the large null alliances have many afk systems deep in their regions. Having a home-base that is exceptionally difficult to find unless the ship is docked at the fitting depot allows small groups of players (can even be from opposing alliances) to shrink large alliance logistic lines. Forcing them to keep more ships close to home to defend their renters, isk-making regions, etc.
I think people from large alliances want them to be easily located out of fear. They LIKE their null-bear zones where they can make isk via rent, ice-mining, anom running, etc in peace.
I say this when I have a null-bear account as well. This would potentially impact my isk-making ... but it would make the game so much more dynamic that it is worth it.
Well, EVE development revolves around the idea that the game should be harsh and have a better risk/reward balance...
...for the other players, because "WE" are already playing it "right"...
In my view, a large alliance has the advantage of being able to log in 24/7 and watch my moves as soon as I log in. That is advantage enough, there is no need to put a giant bullseye they can locate if they as much as try to find it while i'm not even logged in.
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Grimpak
Duty.
The Cursed Few
1147
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Posted - 2013.09.29 08:19:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
so you want less fights? that's all the cyno jammer is causing if it works instantly.
Hint: Not everyone gets their fights by cynoing in on top of one another.
also, covert cyno gen.
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Witchking Angmar
Perkele.
46
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Posted - 2013.09.30 11:36:00 -
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I understood the personal depot cannot be scanned by probes, but what about dscan? |
Mocam
EVE University
Ivy League
305
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:23:00 -
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Salpad wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:Salpad wrote:What is the depot even supposed to do? I gave up on this silly TVitchy thing long ago, so I still haven't seen the release video. I'm waiting for it to arrive on YouTube. It's recorded on Twitch, and Twitch is going to be integrated in EVE online, are you seriously waiting till it uploads on a different website? I've tried using TVitchy two times, and both times given up in disgust. It's a stupid kind of service, compared to YouTube, and it makes no logical sense for CCP to choose to release new material there.
You aren't the only one.
Try back-clicking in that thing to back up & replay a portion where accents made it hard to hear what's said. It restarted the entire twitch thing from the beginning.
And this is aimed at being integrated into EVE online? That is a nasty effect; making it pretty damned worthless for long vids where details at spots will be of importance to an audience.
Yeah I want to find it on youtube or some other service where the player won't pull that crap on me with an over 1 hour video. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
7583
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:24:00 -
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Witchking Angmar wrote:I understood the personal depot cannot be scanned by probes, but what about dscan?
Where did you get that idea from?
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
576
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:35:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Witchking Angmar wrote:I understood the personal depot cannot be scanned by probes, but what about dscan? Where did you get that idea from?
Yeah that would be silly :D
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Nicola Arman
Lacuna.
33
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:43:00 -
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The T3 fitting service should be available on a new type of wormhole derived depot....
AWESOME IDEA! |
Nicola Arman
Lacuna.
33
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:43:00 -
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Nicola Arman wrote:The T3 fitting service should be available on a new type of wormhole derived Space Depot....
AWESOME IDEA!
AND BE CLOAKABLE!!! maybe... |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1992
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:48:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Witchking Angmar wrote:I understood the personal depot cannot be scanned by probes, but what about dscan? Where did you get that idea from?
Who knows? Maybe she thought that a stalker whe leaves behind a beacon broadcasting his location 24/7 even when he's not using it is a really really stupid stalker... 
(I'm not suggesting that making the yurt scannable 24/7 by every last goon and his uncle is a stupid idea. Just that it only makes sense to some of the parts involved, which accidentally are not the parts intended to benefit from the depot)
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1992
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:52:00 -
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Altrue wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Witchking Angmar wrote:I understood the personal depot cannot be scanned by probes, but what about dscan? Where did you get that idea from? Yeah that would be silly :D
Totally beyond what words can convey; the whole idea of poking the big guys is to give them your adress so they can come and burn your house to the basement as they please...
...once it exits reinforcement mode while you're supposed to be sleeping in the real world.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
11909
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:00:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Freako X wrote:I hope it has a very small signature so it would require exceptional scanning skills to locate it. If they are to help with hit and run tactics, then people need to NOT be able to locate it by scanning for the module. Scanning for a ship docked to it? Yes. If the little guy wants to have staying power vs. the big bad alliances in Null .... then locating the mini-chop-shop needs to be difficult when it is floating around in space. It really makes sense, doesn't it? But then this feature has been developed by and for the big guys, in order to feed them with easily squishable targets.
grrr grrr
om nom nom
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
11909
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:03:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Freako X wrote:Right now, it is difficult to actively impact systems deep in a large alliances sovereignty.
I feel the large null alliances have many afk systems deep in their regions. Having a home-base that is exceptionally difficult to find unless the ship is docked at the fitting depot allows small groups of players (can even be from opposing alliances) to shrink large alliance logistic lines. Forcing them to keep more ships close to home to defend their renters, isk-making regions, etc.
I think people from large alliances want them to be easily located out of fear. They LIKE their null-bear zones where they can make isk via rent, ice-mining, anom running, etc in peace.
I say this when I have a null-bear account as well. This would potentially impact my isk-making ... but it would make the game so much more dynamic that it is worth it. Well, EVE development revolves around the idea that the game should be harsh and have a better risk/reward balance... ...for the other players, because "WE" are already playing it "right"... In my view, a large alliance has the advantage of being able to log in 24/7 and watch my moves as soon as I log in. That is advantage enough, there is no need to put a giant bullseye they can locate if they as much as try to find it while i'm not even logged in.
Yes dozens of alliances each have a 24/7 team dedicated to watching your movements.
It's totally true.
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Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
Imperial Outlaws.
1351
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:05:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Witchking Angmar wrote:I understood the personal depot cannot be scanned by probes, but what about dscan? Where did you get that idea from?
More rebalance threads. ** cough cough ** |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
843
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:20:00 -
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Which corps will sell BPO/BPC for this item? |
Red Teufel
Mafia Redux
Black Legion.
226
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:27:00 -
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details ccp? I want details! |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1992
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:36:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Freako X wrote:Right now, it is difficult to actively impact systems deep in a large alliances sovereignty.
I feel the large null alliances have many afk systems deep in their regions. Having a home-base that is exceptionally difficult to find unless the ship is docked at the fitting depot allows small groups of players (can even be from opposing alliances) to shrink large alliance logistic lines. Forcing them to keep more ships close to home to defend their renters, isk-making regions, etc.
I think people from large alliances want them to be easily located out of fear. They LIKE their null-bear zones where they can make isk via rent, ice-mining, anom running, etc in peace.
I say this when I have a null-bear account as well. This would potentially impact my isk-making ... but it would make the game so much more dynamic that it is worth it. Well, EVE development revolves around the idea that the game should be harsh and have a better risk/reward balance... ...for the other players, because "WE" are already playing it "right"... In my view, a large alliance has the advantage of being able to log in 24/7 and watch my moves as soon as I log in. That is advantage enough, there is no need to put a giant bullseye they can locate if they as much as try to find it while i'm not even logged in. Yes dozens of alliances each have a 24/7 team dedicated to watching your movements. It's totally true.
Well, that you endorse a new feature which favors being a big guy and penalizes being a small guy with the excuse of helping the small guy is just expectable...
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1251
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:42:00 -
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Because it's a sop. You can't benefit individuals over voluntary collections of individuals without utterly breaking the game.
At most you can offer new tools to create opportunities for the individual or smaller groups to outplay larger groups, but that still requires the quality of you "outplaying" others. As usual, you want your "solo player" invincibility, which you will never ever get. Ever. Full stop. Quit Eve, or at the very least quit posting about it.
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1992
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:50:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:Because it's a sop. You can't benefit individuals over voluntary collections of individuals without utterly breaking the game.
At most you can offer new tools to create opportunities for the individual or smaller groups to outplay larger groups, but that still requires the quality of you "outplaying" others. As usual, you want your "solo player" invincibility, which you will never ever get. Ever. Full stop. Quit Eve, or at the very least quit posting about it.
Depots that cloak while the player is offline don't harm the ability to detect both player and depot while he's online and actually using them.
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1251
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:56:00 -
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Non sequitur.
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Danbar Roth
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:59:00 -
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Do we know what kinda hold space their will be in them? |
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Adunh Slavy
1264
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:17:00 -
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Thought of a good name for these things. Junkyard Dawg (Deployable Automated Wreck Gatherer)
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ArmyOfMe
Teddybears.
Nocturnal Legion
169
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:43:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Rylos Zathrasi wrote:Will this structure allow T3 Strategic Cruisers to refit subsystems (inside or out of a wormhole)? Subsystems is a different story, at the moment no the structure will not allow that. Once we do decide to do T3 subsystem refit though, it will affect all fitting services while in space. Quick edit: We have decided to do T3 subsystem refits, it's just a matter of deciding when to do it.
asap
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Infinity Ziona
Hot Drop Buns
454
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Posted - 2013.09.30 19:18:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Witchking Angmar wrote:I understood the personal depot cannot be scanned by probes, but what about dscan? Where did you get that idea from?
It would be good. There was a time where we found unmanned ships in safes without any probing system. That took skill not just a probing alt. |
Infinity Ziona
Hot Drop Buns
461
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:10:00 -
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Was just wondering regarding the scanning down of and destruction of these modules. Would it be possible to have an alt in a blockade runner or deep space transport deploy it, and then scoop it after refitting?
That would solve problem of them being destroyed, gonna need transport to carry fittings and ammo any way. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2044
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Posted - 2013.10.04 20:37:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Was just wondering regarding the scanning down of and destruction of these modules. Would it be possible to have an alt in a blockade runner or deep space transport deploy it, and then scoop it after refitting?
That would solve problem of them being destroyed, gonna need transport to carry fittings and ammo any way.
CCP's way would be to make them 100 m3 larger than the largest stealth transport's hold, so you're forced to bring in a industrial... 
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Kirryan
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
6
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:49:00 -
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Just a very tenuous thought, but what if....
... if these are part of a modular POS system, *and* the future POS system will be similar to the concept of kinda space cities or towns or something, as was mentioned in some interview a long while ago then..
Combine with the idea of destructible stations. Not doable at the moment.
But if a staging POS becomes a large collection of personal arrays and hangars and whatnot, all individually anchorable + linked structures - *where people keep all of their stuff* .. then, if bits of it get blown up, and *people loose their stuff with it* .. That would create come awesome incentive to band together and defend these new POS amalgam's of individually owned bits and pieces..
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4683
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:52:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Was just wondering regarding the scanning down of and destruction of these modules. Would it be possible to have an alt in a blockade runner or deep space transport deploy it, and then scoop it after refitting?
That would solve problem of them being destroyed, gonna need transport to carry fittings and ammo any way. CCP's way would be to make them 100 m3 larger than the largest stealth transport's hold, so you're forced to bring in a industrial...
make it the size of a level 5 ihub upgrade
freighter only
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
Naquatech Syndicate
1226
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:29:00 -
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When we will get a DevBlog and/or a thread about the depot and other new structures with stats and stuff ? |
Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
554
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:39:00 -
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I would just like to know if it will fit in a frigate hold. I hope it will.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2048
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:32:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:When we will get a DevBlog and/or a thread about the depot and other new structures with stats and stuff ?
Later than you want, sooner than November 19th. 
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