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Arec Bardwin
1119
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:45:00 -
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The somer blink dude now has a very difficult choice to make:
- dump the prizes he received form CCP through his gambling service as agreed and make some more cash (boring)
- or announce that he will keep everything for himself, and that he played CCP for the fools we all know they are. This will totally be in the spirit of the game, as advertised by CCP themselves. He will be celebrated and remembered as the player who gained CCP's trust and managed to scam CCP in their own game. He will stand to make a lot of money from selling the unique ships, plus the extra traffic to his service from the publicity. If CCP takes disciplinary action against Somer Blink, imagine the player uprage 
Obviously, the second choice will provide the most entertainment for the Eve Online community, and possibly generate a lot of publicity. |

MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
588
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:48:00 -
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Wow. There is absolutely no agenda in your post whatsoever. I mean, NO agenda at ALL.
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PotatoOverdose
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
244
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Posted - 2013.09.27 00:20:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Wow. There is absolutely no agenda in your post whatsoever. I mean, NO agenda at ALL.
Cool those horses there partner.
From webster's dictionary:
fo-+rum
: a meeting at which a subject can be discussed
: a place or opportunity for discussing a subject
It's almost like OP posted his opinion on a discussion in a forum. Do....do you think that's allowed? Are... are you ok? |

Traedar
InterStellar Trading Syndicate
17
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Posted - 2013.09.27 00:35:00 -
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He doesn't even need to scam. He will make massive amounts of ISK if he is given many rare ships for free. The question is, how will he maximize his return?
I think a good question is, how much oversight will CCP give this?
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Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
126
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Posted - 2013.09.27 00:50:00 -
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Just as planned at fanfest 2013 |

Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
167
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:21:00 -
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Traedar wrote:He doesn't even need to scam. He will make massive amounts of ISK if he is given many rare ships for free. The question is, how will he maximize his return?
I think a good question is, how much oversight will CCP give this?
But he already has massive amounts of isk. The best return would now be the tears from self destructing these ships, or giving them suspect flags off of the JITA undock with a hold full of slaves and exotic dancers.
I am not an alt of Chribba. |

Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
65
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:27:00 -
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Traedar wrote:He doesn't even need to scam. He will make massive amounts of ISK if he is given many rare ships for free. The question is, how will he maximize his return?
I think a good question is, how much oversight will CCP give this?
Please engage your brain.
SOMER has, to this very moment, paid out 1,147,466,125,128,343 ISK.
Now, please try to use your brain for a few seconds and just IMAGINE how much profit SOMER has made since they have started, if that's the amount they PAID OUT !
And now explain why anybody there would actually bat an eye about ships worth a mere drop in the ocean of what they must have gathered up so far.
Thank you. |

Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
213
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Posted - 2013.09.27 01:34:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Traedar wrote:He doesn't even need to scam. He will make massive amounts of ISK if he is given many rare ships for free. The question is, how will he maximize his return?
I think a good question is, how much oversight will CCP give this?
Please engage your brain. SOMER has, to this very moment, paid out 1,147,466,125,128,343 ISK. Now, please try to use your brain for a few seconds and just IMAGINE how much profit SOMER has made since they have started, if that's the amount they PAID OUT ! And now explain why anybody there would actually bat an eye about ships worth a mere drop in the ocean of what they must have gathered up so far. Thank you.
Seriously?
Isk-wise, sure, maybe it's not that significant.
But they're ALMOST unique! He might hang on to them just to have them!
....no idea what I'd do in that situation. |

Old Phill
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:47:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:The somer blink dude now has a very difficult choice to make: - dump the prizes he received form CCP through his gambling service as agreed and make some more cash (boring) - or announce that he will keep everything for himself, and that he played CCP for the fools we all know they are. This will totally be in the spirit of the game, as advertised by CCP themselves. He will be celebrated and remembered as the player who gained CCP's trust and managed to scam CCP in their own game. He will stand to make a lot of money from selling the unique ships, plus the extra traffic to his service from the publicity. If CCP takes disciplinary action against Somer Blink, imagine the player uprage  Obviously, the second choice will provide the most entertainment for the Eve Online community, and possibly generate a lot of publicity.
i support scamming CCP great way to advertise the game just chuck a big $ = to how much those ships worth probably thousands of dollars get headlines on every game site |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1213
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:52:00 -
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If Somer just outright steals the ships, then this event has my full support. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Berendas
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
536
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:59:00 -
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I am completely against CCP directly contributing to any player organization.
However...
I am completely in favor of said organization slapping CCP in the face and beating them at their own game. |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
388
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Posted - 2013.09.27 03:35:00 -
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The issue is... if Somer steals the ships.... that's the end of Somer. They will have destroyed their reputation of being trustworthy that they have spent years building up. So.... it's self destructive. And not only self destructive as it will also destroy the likelyhood of CCP trusting a 3rd party for another number of years.
It could also be considered RL fraud in this case as some of the prizes are RL options. Not just digital pixels. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3271
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Posted - 2013.09.27 03:41:00 -
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It's not about the isk, it's about sending a message. |

Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
8
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Posted - 2013.09.27 03:43:00 -
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I don't really get why all the hate..
If Somer Blink is a scam.. (Which I belive it isn't) they have kept isk in wallet.. CCP doesnt overly care about a few internet spaceships floating around on their game. Somer Blink has put in a lot of effort over the years, sponsering EvE events making a very profesional and fun website for people to blow their isk on.
In the end this is a game within a game and the people who play it enjoy it and the people who don't have a cry in forums claiming scam |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1568
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Posted - 2013.09.27 06:15:00 -
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Or SOMER could choose option C: Not giving a ****. Because CCP doesn't give a ****, and that's why they gave SOMER these ships to hand out. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Cierra Royce
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
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Posted - 2013.09.27 07:14:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Traedar wrote:He doesn't even need to scam. He will make massive amounts of ISK if he is given many rare ships for free. The question is, how will he maximize his return?
I think a good question is, how much oversight will CCP give this?
Please engage your brain. SOMER has, to this very moment, paid out 1,147,466,125,128,343 ISK. Now, please try to use your brain for a few seconds and just IMAGINE how much profit SOMER has made since they have started, if that's the amount they PAID OUT ! And now explain why anybody there would actually bat an eye about ships worth a mere drop in the ocean of what they must have gathered up so far. Thank you.
Nobody cares how much Isk Somer claims to have paid out, as it is just as irrelevant as how much Isk Erotica1 has doubled (as honest as she may be) when it comes to getting CCP freebies and endorsement.
The big question that deserves an answer is why is CCP breaching the sandbox favouring this player run organisation by spawning them a set of ultra rare ships worth trillions of isk?
Followed by why they have chosen to say this about Somer:
CCP Navigator wrote:"SOMER Blink have a history of being trustworthy and honoring every blink played without exception. With that level of trust we were looking at ways of expanding on that good will and allowing players to play for some very unique prizes in that trusted environment."
These are very specific claims and give way to questions that deserve an answer.
Have they audited every transaction Somer has performed?
During this audit did they check every recipient account to be sure none were shill accounts of one type or another?
Did CCP audit the out of game books of this organisation to rule out it being a sophisticated RMT operation?
Which other organisations have CCP audited/plan to audit and why?
What do other in game organisations have to do to gain the open favour/patronage of the Developers and be showered with incredibly valuable gifts worth 10s of thousands of real world dollars? |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
3
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Posted - 2013.09.27 07:24:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:They will have destroyed their reputation of being trustworthy that they have spent years building up. So.... it's self destructive.
Transformative, not self destructive.
They will destroy one reputation, but develop a new one, which if exploited properly could be just as profitable.
I don't personally see them doing it because that would have required this whole thing (ie. receiving limited content to auction) being a setup of Blink, rather than an initiative of CCP. I don't see that being the case. I think it's a stupid decision by CCP rather than a masterful (even in RL terms) scam of Blink.
While not likely, it would be fun (and stuff of legend). |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1344
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Posted - 2013.09.27 08:27:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Traedar wrote:He doesn't even need to scam. He will make massive amounts of ISK if he is given many rare ships for free. The question is, how will he maximize his return?
I think a good question is, how much oversight will CCP give this?
Please engage your brain. SOMER has, to this very moment, paid out 1,147,466,125,128,343 ISK. Now, please try to use your brain for a few seconds and just IMAGINE how much profit SOMER has made since they have started, if that's the amount they PAID OUT ! And now explain why anybody there would actually bat an eye about ships worth a mere drop in the ocean of what they must have gathered up so far. Thank you.
This?
http://blinkexposed.blogspot.ca/p/fake-players.html
If Somer Blink are scamming folk, good for them.
The issue is CCP favouring one group of Eve Online players over the others.
This is not a signature. |

Maliandra
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2013.09.27 08:32:00 -
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I'm +1 on this.
SOMER if you steal the ships I will support you with a smile.
If you put them in lottery I think I'll protest your service altogether.
Show CCP how stupid they are... PLEASE... please do it! |

Herr Esiq
Dirt Nap Squad
62
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Posted - 2013.09.27 08:35:00 -
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Somer probably earns money for PLEX referral links, in return they give some ISK credit. It would be kind of dumb to risk your revenue stream of RL money for some virtual money. |

Tiffenay
Synchrodyne Holding Synchrodyne
14
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Posted - 2013.09.27 08:38:00 -
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Cierra Royce wrote: ... how much Isk Erotica1 has doubled (as honest as she may be)
Whoa there, you mean there is a REAL isk doubling service? Sweet!
I totally trust this! |

Infinity Ziona
Hot Drop Buns
441
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Posted - 2013.09.27 08:44:00 -
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Cierra Royce wrote:Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Traedar wrote:He doesn't even need to scam. He will make massive amounts of ISK if he is given many rare ships for free. The question is, how will he maximize his return?
I think a good question is, how much oversight will CCP give this?
Please engage your brain. SOMER has, to this very moment, paid out 1,147,466,125,128,343 ISK. Now, please try to use your brain for a few seconds and just IMAGINE how much profit SOMER has made since they have started, if that's the amount they PAID OUT ! And now explain why anybody there would actually bat an eye about ships worth a mere drop in the ocean of what they must have gathered up so far. Thank you. Nobody cares how much Isk Somer claims to have paid out, as it is just as irrelevant as how much Isk Erotica1 has doubled (as honest as she may be) when it comes to getting CCP freebies and endorsement. The big question that deserves an answer is why is CCP breaching the sandbox favouring this player run organisation by spawning them a set of ultra rare ships worth trillions of isk? Followed by why they have chosen to say this about Somer: CCP Navigator wrote:"SOMER Blink have a history of being trustworthy and honoring every blink played without exception. With that level of trust we were looking at ways of expanding on that good will and allowing players to play for some very unique prizes in that trusted environment." These are very specific claims and give way to questions that deserve an answer. Have they audited every transaction Somer has performed? During this audit did they check every recipient account to be sure none were shill accounts of one type or another? Did CCP audit the out of game books of this organisation to rule out it being a sophisticated RMT operation? Which other organisations have CCP audited/plan to audit and why? What do other in game organisations have to do to gain the open favour/patronage of the Developers and be showered with incredibly valuable gifts worth 10s of thousands of real world dollars? The real question to ask is why is a developer of a game directly interfering in the I game environment of their purportedly sandbox game. Why would they think its wise to spawn items in a players hanger that player never earned with the express purpose of enriching that players wallet? Do SB members pay some sort of platinum account option that we don't?
The only time I remember CCP spawning stuff for an alliance or corp in exchange for zero effort before was T20. How is this different?
IMO SB should be boycotted. |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
135
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Posted - 2013.09.27 08:55:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:The somer blink dude now has a very difficult choice to make: - dump the prizes he received form CCP through his gambling service as agreed and make some more cash (boring) - or announce that he will keep everything for himself, and that he played CCP for the fools we all know they are. This will totally be in the spirit of the game, as advertised by CCP themselves. He will be celebrated and remembered as the player who gained CCP's trust and managed to scam CCP in their own game. He will stand to make a lot of money from selling the unique ships, plus the extra traffic to his service from the publicity. If CCP takes disciplinary action against Somer Blink, imagine the player uprage  Obviously, the second choice will provide the most entertainment for the Eve Online community, and possibly generate a lot of publicity.
tey should pull the plug out of summer bla bla , its getting winter btw too The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2013.09.27 11:55:00 -
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I double dare you, Somer. Amirite, Arec Bardwin.  |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
782
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:20:00 -
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- CCP makes aggreement with Somer about lottery
- Somer plays nicely and gives away all prizes in "totally honest way" - Somer gains new level of trust from CCP - Somer gets lots of ISK and respect from players
or
- Somer steals prizes - CCP removed prizes from the game and ban Somer's accounts for breaking their aggreement
yea, definitely Somer has very tough choice  |

cynthia greythorne
Twilight Labs Unsung Voices
31
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:34:00 -
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Somer will not betray the trust that CCP has granted them. They are now sitting in the catbird's seat, and there they will remain as the rivers of isk pour into their coffers. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
846
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:41:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:The somer blink dude now has a very difficult choice to make: - dump the prizes he received form CCP through his gambling service as agreed and make some more cash (boring) - or announce that he will keep everything for himself, and that he played CCP for the fools we all know they are. This will totally be in the spirit of the game, as advertised by CCP themselves. He will be celebrated and remembered as the player who gained CCP's trust and managed to scam CCP in their own game. He will stand to make a lot of money from selling the unique ships, plus the extra traffic to his service from the publicity. If CCP takes disciplinary action against Somer Blink, imagine the player uprage  Obviously, the second choice will provide the most entertainment for the Eve Online community, and possibly generate a lot of publicity.
Lol. I think CCP just needs to search where any given item is ingame at the moment...and press delete.
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
273
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:48:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Traedar wrote:He doesn't even need to scam. He will make massive amounts of ISK if he is given many rare ships for free. The question is, how will he maximize his return?
I think a good question is, how much oversight will CCP give this?
Please engage your brain. SOMER has, to this very moment, paid out 1,147,466,125,128,343 ISK. Now, please try to use your brain for a few seconds and just IMAGINE how much profit SOMER has made since they have started, if that's the amount they PAID OUT ! And now explain why anybody there would actually bat an eye about ships worth a mere drop in the ocean of what they must have gathered up so far. Thank you.
Point missed. Don't ever take up law and pray you never end up in the witness stand.
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Tesco Ergo Sum
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:38:00 -
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I see no difference between them and Phaser Inc. |
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