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Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
3497
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Posted - 2013.09.27 06:28:00 -
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DISCLAIMER: Yes, for the first time in EVE, I am actually quite butthurt and even mad. Probably because I don't understand the mindset of these guys, FW space is full of wartargets and neutrals to shoot, why shoot your own.
I got awoxed by Kaiden Katelo, a fellow gallente militia member, km http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19779191.
Now I wonder if there are any public lists for awoxers, so others can avoid these scumbags? Since I'm not his first victim, I wonder how I could be the last one?
A sticky awoxer list here?
Seriously,we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.-á |
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
277
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Posted - 2013.09.27 06:59:00 -
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I gotta tell you man, I am surprised to see a post like this from you. 
In this game if they can they will, you are responsible for yourself, there is no honor in this game or very little of it.
It sucks, it happens to all of us, move on and/or spend all of your time exacting retribution. He shouldn't be hard to find. |
Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
335
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:01:00 -
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Nobody (except the butthurt) reads such lists anyway. |
Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
3497
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:05:00 -
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So what to do about it then?
Seriously,we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.-á |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
575
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:07:00 -
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There's no public list but the best way is to simply ask around in intel or corp channel. Or ensure that your corp is pretty quick to setting awoxers red.
Speaking of avoiding butthurt, my corp maintains a private list of all pilots who fight with OGB in the warzone. This helps mitigate some of the butthurt that can come from many pilots looking for a solo. Also helps us with probing out their OGB. I should probably go update that list though :)
High Five. Yeah!
C'est La Eve . |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone
Caldari State
409
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Posted - 2013.09.27 10:41:00 -
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Join a good corp (if you haven't already)
After that, trust no one outside your circle. You can gang with others, whatever, but always be ready to be stabbed in the back.
Everyone is a possible enemy in low sec. Plenty of people join FW just to awox. Expect it and be prepared for it and you'll be fine.
Purple means don't fire unless fired upon. Nothing more, nothing less. |
Optimo Sebiestor
Bondage Goat Zombie
Strictly Unprofessional
188
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Posted - 2013.09.27 11:39:00 -
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98% of the awox fails miserably and people are just left behind feeling a bit silly. So noone is botherd with putting up such a list. |
Julius Foederatus
Spiritus Draconis
Sicarius Draconis
214
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:01:00 -
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My advice is to simply alter your overview so you see militia members, and uncheck the pilots with good standing. It's helped me a lot. |
PhatController
Mum Rider Alliance
Abandon PlayGrounds
43
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:41:00 -
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If such a list existed, in the time that it would take you to go through the list and check, they would probably have already killed you. Also just because no one has Awoxed before, doesn't mean they won't do it this time. For example 99.9% of the time I won't AWOX you, unless you come into my plex in a venture with intention of actually participating in FW, in which case I have no problem AWOXing someone.
Another problem with list like these as they get abused, someone hurts someones feeling and then gets all there mates to vote for someone to be added to the list who isn't actually an Awoxer etc.
The real problem here is at the core of FW itself, AWOXing someone should have a huge impact or your standing, you should be able to get away with it once, maybe twice, then a 3rd time makes you Kill on sight to Caldari State (insert you faction here). As it stands, the standings hit isn't that bad. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
OLD MAN GANG
564
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:12:00 -
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This is new era of FW, everything is working as planned, CCP made lp sharing etc just to generate more pvp by avoxing.
This is working well.
Game mechanics does not have to follow real life mind sets on anyway, FW is good way to think different.
It is good that game mechanics allow lot of things and players can itself decide if they want to kill 'friendlies' or not.
Anyway, guys who can control their trigger finger and use some other methods to get rid of unpleasant entities benefits most in this system too. |
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Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
469
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:40:00 -
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Confirming OP is in a **** corp.
It's the only way these tards can get kills. Just assume everyone who isn't in your corp is looking to gank you, that's what I do and it seems to work out.
http://thewaysofthemew.blogspot.com
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Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
3501
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:04:00 -
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Cheers for the answers guys, I just have to adjust my mindset and start treating everyone unknown as hostile, no matter their militia.
Bit disappointing and seriously lame that there actually are people who need to resort to awoxing, but no can do.
Seriously,we won't be bringing back the old unique ships for events. We might give other stuff away that is interesting, but no Guardian Vexor, Opux Luxury Yacht, Fedthron, Impoc, SIR, etc, etc.-á |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
131
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:28:00 -
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PhatController wrote:
The real problem here is at the core of FW itself, AWOXing someone should have a huge impact or your standing, you should be able to get away with it once, maybe twice, then a 3rd time makes you Kill on sight to Caldari State (insert you faction here). As it stands, the standings hit isn't that bad.
Awoxing within your militia does have a impact on your personal faction standings. However, awoxers have found 3 very effective ways to make standings irrelevant:
1. Switch corps every 7 days, that way your personal standings never impact corp standings and your corp can stay in FW forever.
2. Have enough +10 faction standings characters in corp to offset the -10 faction standing characters.
3. Stick to cross militia awoxing, which doesn't have a standing hit. This is at least somewhat legit tactic, because in this case we can at least shoot first at the awoxer without letting them get into their optimal (either point blank or at range).
QCATS is recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
JAF Anders
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
134
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Posted - 2013.09.28 13:16:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote: avoxing.
Now you really have been spending too much time with the Russians.
QCATS is Recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
498
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Posted - 2013.09.28 16:45:00 -
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On the plus side:
If someone comes into your site to leach your ISK, you can awox them
If you find out someone is a spy alt, you can awox them |
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2013.09.28 18:55:00 -
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As a solo FDU pilot I am generally cautious of allied pilots and generally employ the lazy option of at least using keep at range on GÇ£friendliesGÇ¥ that enter the same plex as me. At least that way you can tell if someone is burning towards you.
Roime wrote:Probably because I don't understand the mindset of these guys, FW space is full of wartargets and neutrals to shoot, why shoot your own.
Just because they fly the flag doesnGÇÖt make them loyal to the federation, pretty sure there are a number of caldari spy alts used to trap pilots. With the recent high tier level I am pretty sure I have seen caldari alts collecting LP, well at least I conveniently faced overwhelming opposition at the end of my timer only for another Gallente Capsuleer to be allowed to finish said timer.
Although to be fair mistakes can be made and their corp seems fairly new to the militia.
Wardec them if you are not happy. |
Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
86
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Posted - 2013.09.30 09:44:00 -
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In the minmatar militia we mantain a kos list; http://winmatar.org/kos.php
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Want to join me? www.biohazardcorp.com |
Luwc
Easy Co.
Fatal Ascension
10
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Posted - 2013.10.02 08:33:00 -
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Loren Gallen. Worst Awoxer ever. boot him plox xoxoxoxoxoo |
Dream Kim
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.04 16:53:00 -
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Heh. |
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
151
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Posted - 2013.10.04 17:29:00 -
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Which is misleading because you are implying that anyone outside your alliance uses that list (they dont) or that it has anything to do with awoxing (which it doesn't) |
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