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Caliph Muhammed
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:09:00 -
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Monopoly money is equivalent to cash if at some point cash is used to procure monopoly money to play the game. And the prizes can be converted to ISK which can be converted to plex which takes real life cash to create.
Can one sell plex cheap to markee dragon? |

Caliph Muhammed
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:45:00 -
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I wonder if Somer Blink is involved with markee dragon at all outside of game?
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Caliph Muhammed
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Posted - 2013.09.27 20:54:00 -
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Nah, it's not really grey unless directly confronting a clearly red issue with skepticism makes you colorblind. |

Caliph Muhammed
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Posted - 2013.09.28 09:30:00 -
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Tiffany Kautsuo wrote:The fallacies with this argument is that you receive ISK, the currency in exchange for real money via a convoluted route. SOMER does never give you any in game currency and it cannot be argued they do. When you purchase a GTC you receiver the GTC and a credit to your account. This credit holds no monetary value in the economy and can only be used to purchase "blinks". SOMER has for the sake of simplicity used a denomination of tokens that holds the same tag as currency of the game. The idea here was probably to alow flexibility between the different prizes offered and the buoyant value of items relative to currency. This prevents and argument of RMT as you are never in possession of any currency, only tokens that hold the same market value as you paid.
Strawman torched.
So your argument is that a shell corporation in EVE setup by markee dragon to rmt ISK isn't rmt because its hidden and goes by the name SomerBlink? For someone with zero likes, having never interacted with the community at all save for a handful of posts since 2012 you sure seem to have a vested interest. |

Caliph Muhammed
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:15:00 -
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Prove Somer isn't Markee. |

Caliph Muhammed
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Posted - 2013.09.29 03:49:00 -
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Tiffany Kautsuo wrote:The basis of your argument of it being RMT is that you can never lose, it is easy to lose BLINK. The fact there is a mechanic that you stack the draw 100% does not mean it is RMT.
Further more, OP's highly misguided statment of CCP "Officially allows" RMT is therefore even more baseless.
Caliph, regardless of what you think or not, unless you have solid proof of Markee and SOMER in cahoots that baseless defamation is going to get you nowhere.
Exaggerations of facts doesn't help your argument either, In this case with somer you can have at best a 15/16 chance of winning without reaching that magical 100% "RMT threshold" you go on about.
Your argument of cash in isk out makes sense if they were directly selling isk as a product.
Again i shall say that you purchase a product off markee, and he gives you that product. Following a referral from SOMER gets you their credit, nowhere here is there any semblance of RMT. Your argument of getting isk for cash (RMT) comes from the fact that SOMER has payouts, and it is possible to buy all tickets to a lottery.
Hypothetically speaking IF this were RMT and under best circumstances of getting the 250M bonus during an event. you purchase every ticket to a raven blink, it costs you 248m of your credit to stack it. upon winning you receive a raven, or 197m isk.
Is what you are suggesting that you have bought 200m isk off SOMER for however much cut they get? If so then a simple rule to stop complete buyouts would negate any argumentative base you hold on that it is impossible to lose.
Spin yourself a bug report and report it to them and hope you get a cookie.
But accusing them of RMT because of a common marketing strategy is kinda low don't you think?
Also i just realised how OT this thread has become.
TLDR: CCP STILL doesn't support RMT
It doesn't have to get me anywhere. If the population is content with paying cash for currency while others get it printed free then they deserve everything that they get in the future.
Me myself, sub is cancelled. And if this goes through ill be offloading the account for what ive put into it and ill find another game.
I may be unique in my outlook but i'm not that enthusiastic over EVE currently nor over the "were gonna make eve hardcore but not really" brand of marketing they use. This issue is just the nail in the coffin. When the devs begin cheating on behalf of special snowflakes I move on.
Once the sandbox is polluted it can't be fixed. And from the incompetent devs statement its just the beginning. Im merely making use of the forum privilege my 15 bucks nets me until the 13th I believe. After that its off my shoulders. Ive watched MMOs burn before after committing to them and speaking the truth more bluntly han 99% of those around me and ive watched the same self centered game wreckers time and time again ruin the experience. Pirates of the Burning Sea is one, Ultima Online, World of Warcraft, I could go on, EVE will be just another on the list of could have been great but greed cost them everything. |

Caliph Muhammed
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:21:00 -
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Somer makes real cash off an ingame service. Its RMT. Plain and simple. And if it's not then say its not rmt to make real cash off of CCP intellectual property.
How about you remove the referral program from SomerBlink and operate independently? No? Whys that? You want that real money for your ingame casino service?
Can I charge real currency to daytrade isk in game? No? Whys that? |

Caliph Muhammed
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Posted - 2013.09.29 04:50:00 -
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