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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.09.28 18:26:00 -
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Reyna Snoo wrote:I imagine CCP is kinda confused as this isn't the first time they've given prizes to Somer to give away. For Somer's one quadrillion celebration CCP gave them 4 Collectors Editions and some Ishukone Watch Scorpions to give away using this same giveaway mechanic and nobody seemed to care about it then. Is it the large in-game value that makes this different?
Simply.. the goons didn't care :)
The only reason there has been such a storm is because the goons didn't like it this time round. |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.09.28 21:17:00 -
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Kuni Oichi wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Reyna Snoo wrote:I imagine CCP is kinda confused as this isn't the first time they've given prizes to Somer to give away. For Somer's one quadrillion celebration CCP gave them 4 Collectors Editions and some Ishukone Watch Scorpions to give away using this same giveaway mechanic and nobody seemed to care about it then. Is it the large in-game value that makes this different? Simply.. the goons didn't care :) The only reason there has been such a storm is because the goons didn't like it this time round. So you're saying that we do a better job of raising awareness of concerning issues to the rest of the playerbase than anyone else? Thanks for the compliment, it's nice to know our efforts are so appreciated.
My pleasure, yet it still remains true.
Why didn't the goons go a forum spurge during the Q1 Celebrations?
What makes this time different from when CCP were giving away 4 Collectors Edition and Ishukone Watch Scorpions using the exactly same method?
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:03:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Kuni Oichi wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Reyna Snoo wrote:I imagine CCP is kinda confused as this isn't the first time they've given prizes to Somer to give away. For Somer's one quadrillion celebration CCP gave them 4 Collectors Editions and some Ishukone Watch Scorpions to give away using this same giveaway mechanic and nobody seemed to care about it then. Is it the large in-game value that makes this different? Simply.. the goons didn't care :) The only reason there has been such a storm is because the goons didn't like it this time round. So you're saying that we do a better job of raising awareness of concerning issues to the rest of the playerbase than anyone else? Thanks for the compliment, it's nice to know our efforts are so appreciated. My pleasure, yet it still remains true. Why didn't the goons go a forum spurge during the Q1 Celebrations? What makes this time different from when CCP were giving away 4 Collectors Edition and Ishukone Watch Scorpions using the exactly same method? Comparatively speaking, the magnitude of the prizes. A few CEs and a handful of IWS is a far cry from several guardian vexors and a couple of frigates that are literally priceless. Realistically speaking, nothing, although I'd be of the opinion that the prizes in question would be far more in line with the magnitude of things that CCP should hand out through this community engagement thing. That is, of course, provided that the policy David said they'd be writing allows the player or player group receiving the prizes to materially benefit from their distribution, which I'm pretty sure I'd be against. Practically speaking, while I can't speak for other goons, I very rarely play Blink at all and didn't even know they were giving away CEs and IWS during the Q1 celebrations until it was brought up again more recently.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:48:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
So just to Clarify the CSM position, it is not that CCP have been working with Somerblink to give away prizes, but it is the nature of the prizes where the problem lies?
Let's try a bit harder to read the post and not skip over the part where I said I didn't really think handouts like this should materially benefit the organization they're given to to distribute, shall we?
So where the complaints or forums post from the CSM for the previous prizes given away, unless you are saying that none of the CSM were aware of the prizes for the Q1 Celebrations? |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.09.29 07:20:00 -
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Andski wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:So where the complaints or forums post from the CSM for the previous prizes given away, unless you are saying that none of the CSM were aware of the prizes for the Q1 Celebrations? so this clearly anything but a "developing program" considering that CCP has previously given things to somer blink with no strings attached under the assumption that they'd give them away to people on their site i'm not sure what you're getting at, other than telling everybody that CCP are lying to the playerbase through their teeth, again, and presenting more evidence of CCP's favoritism towards one particular player
Poorly twisted and avoiding my original question
People can quite clearly see what I am asking and that is why did nobody have any issues before but now they do? |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:58:00 -
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Andski wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Poorly twisted and avoiding my original question
People can quite clearly see what I am asking and that is why did nobody have any issues before but now they do? as it turns out a lot of people are indeed surprised to find out that somer blink was gifted items by CCP not one, but twice not all of us are gambling addicts who compulsively f5 for promos and celebrations, so forgive us for not being aware of every single thing somer blink has ever given away
Considering the amount of people who play Somerblink I find it very hard to believe that only a handful of players knew about the Q1 Gifts, especially considering a couple of well know Eve Bloggers posted about it and its was on both EN24 and Reddit.
So yeah, trying to come across all high and mighty and classing everybody who play's somer as "gambling addicts" is pretty low, even by your standards. |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:58:00 -
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Rob Crowley wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Considering the amount of people who play Somerblink I find it very hard to believe that only a handful of players knew about the Q1 Gifts, especially considering a couple of well know Eve Bloggers posted about it and its was on both EN24 and Reddit. For whatever it might be worth to you, I didn't know about it. I still don't see the point behind this whole line of argumentation though. Just because something bad happened in the past we can't be arguing about something bad (in fact even worse because of the increased value) happening now? That doesn't make sense to me. The only thing this could IMO explain is why CCP might not have expected backlash, but I'm already assuming good intentions on CCP's side.
It matters because I personally feel there is a witch hunt going here and people are using this as an excuse to rage.
Maybe it is a backlash over the recent change over the TOS and EULA.
Somer Blink gave away 320 bil isk to teams who entered the New Open Tournament, apparently they have also given a large amount of isk to Eve Uni, not sure if this is true but I am sure but it would be nice if could be confirmed.
Will this rage now make Somer think twice about sponsoring any other future events.. if so then we have all lost out.
Yes people will say its just a drop in a ocean yet I do not see anybody else donating isk like this and there are many alliances that can afford it.
My worry is that CCP now back track with working with 3rd Party groups.
I feel that they need to continue with this.
Hell I think CCP should give people who give us Z Killboard, EveMom, EveHQ, Somer Blink and players like Chribba unique new ships as a thank you for all the hard work they have done over the years to promote Eve.
That is my own opinion but chances are it will never happen because people will come on the forum and cry a river of tears and claim favoritism.
My question to those who use the favoritism argument is what have you done for all Eve Players?
If Somerblink is so evil as some people portray them to be why are they so popular?
There are other Eve gambling sites which are nowhere as popular.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:28:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:All I'm doing is outlining the fact the goons are metagaming in order to get stuff they'd quite like to have, but is being allocated to someone else. These are the same people that keep on screaming 'sandbox' every five minutes. You can rest assured if the goons had been allocated the stuff and somer blink hadn't been there wouldn't be any threads about this at all. We want no-one to have special treatment. If you had even the slightest sense of irony it should be tingling right about now, since it was a very determined posting effort by GSF members back in the day that stopped CCP just sweeping the T20 scandal under the rug. You people are so blinded by your ridiculous hatred you don't even know when we're helping you.
Or maybe some people believe those who provide a service like Somerblink, Like Z Killboard, EveHQ, EveMon, Dotlan and Chiribba deserve special treatment for the work they do for the ENITRE Community.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.10.08 16:48:00 -
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I actually agree with the thread being closed as the subject had long been abandon and the thread had become nothing more then a few people sniping, flaming and trolling each other which is unfortunate.
If you do not want to get threads locked then simply do not respond to people who are clearly trolling / flaming as if they get no response they will quickly get bored and move on elsewhere. |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:49:00 -
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Memnon Shepard wrote:Posting here if only to say I'm still paying attention to this issue. I laughed when the only thing CCP could be bothered to do on the previous thread, after over 74 pages of customers expressing disapproval of their actions and requesting an official comment, was to shut the thread down and refer everyone to pages started as a result of completely separate topics.
Read my last post |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.10.09 12:18:00 -
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Memnon Shepard wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:I actually agree with the thread being closed as the subject had long been abandon and the thread had become nothing more then a few people sniping, flaming and trolling each other which is unfortunate.
If you do not want to get threads locked then simply do not respond to people who are clearly trolling / flaming as if they get no response they will quickly get bored and move on elsewhere. Even if you think closing the thread was correct, why would CCP have not made a comment of their own before locking? I think that's all many of the posters with complaints were requesting for most of the weekend.
Erm, maybe because it was the weekend and also many staff were on holiday?
Also in response to a few others, its better having 1 thread opposed to many threads.
Just because people seem to have this feeling of some kind of self importance that makes them open a new entirely about the same subject over and over again is beyond me. |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.10.09 13:45:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:I'm still looking forward to how they respond to the fact that somer is known to ban people at their discretion (such as same IP address), and you are required to pay somer in order to partake.
There are plenty of people who pay their subscriptions and have accounts in good standing who were literally incapable of partaking in this give away, as the third party CCP gave control decided to exclude them.
That above all else is disgusting.
I posted why in the other thread. |
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