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Lauriers
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Posted - 2006.01.20 11:32:00 -
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anyone any idea what works agains jamming guristas NPCs. I fly a domi and I've tried magno ECCM and piercing ECCM but nothing seems to make any difference. 
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.01.20 11:43:00 -
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They have strongest Megnetometric jamming, meaning your first step to making your ship less vulnerable to Guristas jamming is to change to a Caldari ship.
According to the dev blog in question Guristas jam as such:
Gallente > Minmatar > Amarr > Caldari
Magneto > RADAR > LADAR > Gravi
Note, however, that Amarr has RADAR sensor strengths (funny enough, it's the Minmatar who use LASER targeting...). So it's not too clear which of Minmatar or Amarr who are really the most jammed, although one can assume it's actually the racial description line that's the accurate one rather than the sensor strength descriptions.
Oh, and boost anything that gives you Magnetometric and you should have a decreased chance of jamming. Know that you can't protect yourself 100%, however.
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2006.01.20 12:05:00 -
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I go against Guristas in an Enyo quite often - and a single magnetometric backup array II works pretty fine - sometimes i loose the Targets - but the jam never lasts long
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Salusa VC
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Posted - 2006.01.20 12:12:00 -
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Gurista use Gravimetric not Magnetometric.
You could try fitting Grav Backup Arrays, but tbh I dont know if these have any effect against NPC's.
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2006.01.20 12:18:00 -
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if they would use pure gravimetric jammers they couldnŠt even jam a gallente ship cause it only works magnetometric no ?
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Salusa VC
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Posted - 2006.01.20 13:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Ertai Vodalion
if they would use pure gravimetric jammers they couldnŠt even jam a gallente ship cause it only works magnetometric no ?
Not sure how it works with respect to NPC's jamming(anyone?), but all dedicated spectrum ECM Jammers can still have a chance of jamming other sensor types (albeit significantly reduced).
I expect with NPC's they are multispectral and just have a 'chance to jam' regardless of what sensor types they are meant to use or what racial ship you fly.
But you are right, if they are purely Gravimetric then they would have less chance of jamming you if you are flying non-Caladri and even less so if you boost your sensor strength.
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Lauriers
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Posted - 2006.01.20 13:24:00 -
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thanks, will try a magno II or use my raven instead
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.01.20 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Salusa VC
Gurista use Gravimetric not Magnetometric.
You could try fitting Grav Backup Arrays, but tbh I dont know if these have any effect against NPC's.
No...
Guristas use Gravimetric sensor strength. They are jammed by using Gravimetric jammers (i.e. Spatial Destabilizers are most effective against them). This is their jamming *defence*, not their offence.
They *jam* with a sort of multispectral jammer, however. This jammer is strongest against Magnetometric (Gallente ships) and weakest against Gravimetric (Caldari ships).
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elFarto
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Posted - 2006.01.20 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
They *jam* with a sort of multispectral jammer, however. This jammer is strongest against Magnetometric (Gallente ships) and weakest against Gravimetric (Caldari ships).
Can you tell me where you heard this? From my work on my NPC database, the only attributes they have is a percentage chance to jam you, range, falloff and duration.
Regards
elFarto
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.01.20 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: elFarto
Originally by: Ithildin
They *jam* with a sort of multispectral jammer, however. This jammer is strongest against Magnetometric (Gallente ships) and weakest against Gravimetric (Caldari ships).
Can you tell me where you heard this? From my work on my NPC database, the only attributes they have is a percentage chance to jam you, range, falloff and duration.
Regards
elFarto
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Oh, and I wasn't aware that they had released a proper extract of NPCs since RMR. Also, the chance of jamming is the chance of TRYING, not the chance of an actual jam.
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elFarto
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Posted - 2006.01.20 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
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Right, it's a hard coded thing then (or *phew* I didn't miss anything  ).
Originally by: Ithildin
Oh, and I wasn't aware that they had released a proper extract of NPCs since RMR.
t20's latest data export has all the NPC data.
Originally by: Ithildin
Also, the chance of jamming is the chance of TRYING, not the chance of an actual jam.
I'm not sure on this one, the database only contain 1 attribute for chance of jamming. (ie, it doesn't contain 1 for chance and 1 for strength).
Regards
elFarto
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