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Crimson Rose
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Posted - 2003.08.25 20:24:00 -
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Why are only 3 or so TTI members posting about this situation with Evolution? Is life in TTI that constricting and confining? I think it is shameful to not see what other in TTI have to say about this. Let's hear what the "REAL TTI" have to say. Not the upper management.
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Hiro Protagonist
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Posted - 2003.08.25 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Hiro Protagonist on 25/08/2003 20:29:51
Um, I'm "real TTI", and am not an exec. What exactly are you looking for?
You might want to look at the tone of your own post as the answer to why a lot of TTI aren't posting (boring day at work here is my excuse  ) - the antagonism therein makes me wonder if you are just flamebaiting. |
Crimson Rose
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Posted - 2003.08.25 20:33:00 -
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If you are not allowed to share your thoughts and feelings about Evolution attacking TTI and friends. Then so be it. Please do not percieve this thread as taunting or flamebait. I think many of us would like to hear what most think in TTI. Not just a few. Thanks for replying.
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Hiro Protagonist
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Posted - 2003.08.25 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: Hiro Protagonist on 25/08/2003 20:37:43
The reason I wondered if your thread was flamebaiting was that it included stuff like "shameful" and your second post implies that TTI are not allowed to post.
That doesn't seem so much like a question as a flame or accusation.
From what I've heard from other TTI "underlings", most are not posting for precisely this reason - no real desire to be involved in a flamewar or deal with innuendos such as appear in your post.
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Crimson Rose
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Posted - 2003.08.25 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Crimson Rose on 25/08/2003 20:55:57
I can only come to the conclustion that only a handful of "chosen" tti are allowed to post.
edit- BTW, I did not call TTI non-management, "underlings". I called them the "REAL TTI". Thank you.
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Hiro Protagonist
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Posted - 2003.08.25 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: Hiro Protagonist on 25/08/2003 21:02:05
Your conclusion is incorrect. But you have done a good job demonstrating why most TTI don't bother posting.
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eriq
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Posted - 2003.08.25 20:52:00 -
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i don't say anything in the forums because no one listens anyway. the people who know the least about us are the ones that cry the loudest and no amount of explanation ever matters so why bother?
a good example is the miner ii episode. if tti has a miner ii blueprint i don't know about it. i bought 1 off the trade channel but no one in the corp has offered to sell them to members. think anyone will believe me? i doubt it...
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Crimson Rose
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Posted - 2003.08.25 21:04:00 -
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Eriq, Did you say they didn't offer to sell them to members? You mean, members of TTI? What I'm getting at is, you have to purchase products from TTI? They do not share products with you? Now that is interesting stuff. If I ever join a corp. I hope I don't have to buy stuff from them. I hope we are a team who looks out for each other. Just my opinion of course.
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eriq
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Posted - 2003.08.25 21:44:00 -
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our philosophy is different and is based on capitalism whereas you are speaking of more of a collective-based system which has its benefits but i prefer keeping what i earn which is why is joined and stayed away from other corps that distribute wealth.
you can read more about it on our site but in essence you are correct, if someone in our corp makes miner ii's i'd have to buy it just like everyone else but as i said, no one has offered them for sale that i'm aware of.
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Crimson Rose
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Posted - 2003.08.25 22:05:00 -
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Yes, I will have to go to the TTI site soon. I guess I can get more information there.
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Hafthor
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Posted - 2003.08.25 22:30:00 -
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Your conclusion is incorrect. But you have done a good job demonstrating why most TTI don't bother posting.
And you have done a good job demonstrating why so many people dislike TTI. You seem to think everyone is against you, instead of just answering questions you start making accusations. I have nothing against you by the way... hardly know what TTI is.
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Hiro Protagonist
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Posted - 2003.08.25 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Hiro Protagonist on 25/08/2003 22:44:50
Haffthor, if a thread asked a question about your company and included "Is life in MASSi that constricting and confining?" as well as the rest of the text that appears above, would you find the tone neutral, or would you find it inflammatory?
Also, please note that I did answer the question posed, see my first two posts in this thread, both of which give an answer.
One could say my answers characterized the original post as asking questions in a rather unfriendly tone, it is true. Do you feel the characterization is incorrect?
Cheers,
Hiro |
Morat
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Posted - 2003.08.26 10:25:00 -
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I would have thought that most TTI members probably have far better things to do than to get involved in pointless discussions withh peole who hate them for no other reason than that TTI are the richest corp in the game.
It does not matter who you support, 99% of all the stuff on these boards is a complete load of toss. And trying to read between the lines is pointless. There is so little real content to any of the posts that you will never get to the truth.
These boards are just a place for people to flame each other these days and nothing more. The bull**** is detectable from lightyears away. |
Sambora
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Posted - 2003.08.26 11:40:00 -
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I will have to agree with the TTI chaps on this one. Everytime one of them makes a post it is followed by four or five more detailing all that is evil about Taggart.
It seems to me that their members refrain from posting for this reason as has already been stated in this thread.
Many eve players seem to hold the upmost contempt for TTI simply because they are big and succesful. Surely they should stop wasting their time wineing about them and get on with the serious busines of compeating with them.
Admitedly the Venal alliance may have many flaws, but I see that as no reason to blame it all on TTI. Would it be so hard for people to treat their members with the same respect as all other players?
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Gareth Beckwin
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Posted - 2003.08.26 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Gareth Beckwin on 26/08/2003 13:35:32
The main reason most of us stay away from posting on this topic, or on most topics, Ms. Rose, is that nothing much is ever gained. Posting does little more than provide a stationary target to TTI's detractors and enemies, no matter the tone or content of the post.
I feel TTI is a great corporation to work for, and I have a good time doing what I do. While I am newer than most of my counterparts, I enjoy the camraderie I feel when conversing in the game and in IRC, posting on our forums, etc. There are disagreements about things at times, but that is one of the best things about the corp. You can do what you want, say what you want, and go about your business any way you like. We work for ourselves, while at the same time we all end up working for the same corp goals.
Sorry, back to your initial question. Like I said, the main reason I do not post very much on these topics is that it usually doesn't help me or TTI very much. But more specifically I have not posted about the Evolution "situation" because it has not affected me very much. Mr. Molle used the word "annihilation" and the phrase "TTI will die". This certainly hasn't happened yet, and I doubt it will. I mined for several hours yesterday without threat or interruption, and I'm sure the next time I log on I won't have many problems either.
While I know that others at TTI have been affected by loss of time (which also means loss of ISK of course), I'm sure Evolution pilots are not making much ISK while they harass our (and the rest of VA's) pilots. And please don't mistake this as arrogance, but since the in-game mechanics right now allow only for a war of attrition, I believe TTI will be able to outlast Evolution in this regard. Time will tell. |
Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.08.26 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: Ulstan on 26/08/2003 14:14:39
Edited by: Ulstan on 26/08/2003 14:12:25
"Why are only 3 or so TTI members posting about this situation with Evolution?"
Probably that's because that's how many TTI members have been inconvenienced by the Evolution 'attack'.
"I think it is shameful to not see what other in TTI have to say about this."
Good heavens. Get a grip. These are forums, not the game. You're a retard if you think it is anything other than completely normal for the vast majority of large corporations to only have a few players interested in posting on the forums.
Only a small minority of players post here.
Posting here doesn't really help you in anyway - it doesn't earn you isk or get you rare modules. Playing in game does.
Moreover, there's usually not all that much worth reading on the forums. Why waste time responding to petty attacks from people envious of your success when you could be in game, actually making more money?
"These boards are just a place for people to flame each other these days and nothing more. The bull**** is detectable from lightyears away."
Morat summed it up very well. I happen to enjoy reading the flames and find the blatant posturing amusing. I would not however, peruse the forums when I could be playing in game. There's almost no reason whatsoever to read the Intergalactic Summit or corporation forums - the only forums that have useful info (to me) are the ships and modules and patch review forums.
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Yalson
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Posted - 2003.08.26 14:23:00 -
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Why so few of us are replying? I'd rather talk to people directly in the game than posting on these boards, at least with regards to issues affecting TTI.
I've witnessed to many flame fests in too many games already to participate anymore. Patch Review boards, the RP forum and others are of course a completely different story.
Are we confined in what we're allowed to say? No. Would I get critized by corp mates for attacking someone verbally on these boards or giving away information that shouldn't have been posted? Absolutely ;-)
In general, I think many players - not just TTI members - have developed a certain 'why bother' attitude, which is a bit unfortunate given that games like this absolutely need interaction, but probably unavoidable given the current environment.
Cheers,
-- Yalson
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.08.26 17:22:00 -
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hey eric, those were some sweet pics of the might VA fleet doing nothing. post some more ok? |
Juergen
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Posted - 2003.08.26 18:18:00 -
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hey eric, those were some sweet pics of the might VA fleet doing nothing. post some more ok?
A lot of TTI members don't post because it is hard to have a real discussion here without it being met with flames like the above example. Flaming people or being flamed just isn't that interesting.
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Danden
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Posted - 2003.08.26 18:20:00 -
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Homo, stay on topic please and leave the bashing for the other thread(s) |
eriq
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Posted - 2003.08.26 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: eriq on 26/08/2003 18:34:14
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eriq
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Posted - 2003.08.26 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: eriq on 26/08/2003 18:34:28
stupid stuck submit button
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eriq
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Posted - 2003.08.26 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: eriq on 26/08/2003 18:37:31
Edited by: eriq on 26/08/2003 18:35:08
homo, i guess you're talking to me?
i thought they were pretty cool seeing all those ships amassed. did you like the pics of my house being built too?
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Hafthor
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Posted - 2003.08.26 19:10:00 -
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You are quite right Hiro Protagonist, The initial post was not a good example of neutrality. But your response lacks what Gareth Beckwins has in abundancy, diplomacy. To ask if it is not allowed to post here is ofcourse stupid, how would TTI ban their members from posting?
Can't we all just get along?? 
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Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2003.08.26 19:42:00 -
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You are quite right Hiro Protagonist, The initial post was not a good example of neutrality. But your response lacks what Gareth Beckwins has in abundancy, diplomacy. To ask if it is not allowed to post here is ofcourse stupid, how would TTI ban their members from posting?
Can't we all just get along??
just a fyi many corps have rules stating to not post on forums because it will be read as a statement of the corp as a whole. A common practice you'll run into incase you contact corp members and suggest anything in the direction of business that might be made, 75-80% of the time they will refer you to their CEO or person in charge of out of corp communications.
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A spring day at the edge of the world.
On the edge of the world once more the day slants.
The oriole cries, as though it were its own tears
Which damp even the topmost blossoms on the tree.
-- Li Shang-yin, Exile, ninth century A.D. |
Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.26 19:55:00 -
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I am sorry but some of you guys are starting to scare me. This is a GAME can you say it G A M E. Get it? not real?
These forums are for posting what you want, nobody thinks its a corp statement or this that and the other.
Some of you people need to step back, take a deeeep breath and repeat ITS ONLY A GAME about 10 times.
GET A GRIP
Stav - The Grand High Lord And Supreme Master
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.08.26 20:01:00 -
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So that's the offical m0o position on things then, eh stavros?
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Morat
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Posted - 2003.08.26 20:09:00 -
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Get a grip stavros.
Everything that anybody ever posts on these boards, whether it is an "official" corp response or not is taken as such.
Given the responses to any post that anyone ever makes here, how can you be naive enough to state otherwise.
Everyone on these boards is guilty of taking innocuous statements and using them out of context to insinuate wrongdoing.
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QBall
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Posted - 2003.08.26 20:15:00 -
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I agree with you for once Stavr0s, damn the world has gone mad.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.08.26 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: Homo Erectus on 26/08/2003 22:38:39
LOVE THOSE PICS ERIQ, ESP THAT LAST ONE WHERE YOU STATE:
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evolution inflicting its terrible punishment upon the poor unsuspecting venal alliance
(psst. guess who's trapped inside the station...)
HAHAHA GOOD ONE ERIC, LOVE IT.
BTW, VENAL HAS LOST 2 MORE BATTLESHIPS SO FAR TODAY:
4LIFE IN HIS DOMINIX AND BECKULL IN HIS SCORP.
(PSST. GUESS WHO IS DEAD?)
HAHAHAHA I RULE, I RULE. |
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