Idk about that. I listed off all the restrictions on criminals, and your only response was "They're alts, who cares?".

The restrictions do exist. In fact, they have been added on over and over again over nearly a decade of nerfs against ganking. The people who gank, as a result, have it down to a science, both in the actual act and in mitigating the consequences thereof.

The solution is not to keep adding more consequences. The solution is to stop feeling sad for bad players who don't fit tank, and to stop listening to them.

Noobs are going to die regardless. That's what they do.

I wasn't ignoring your points i would have thought it obvious that running missions or mining on your -10 gank alt is for the clinically insane when you have a main to do it.

if people think nothing of podding you then it's too easy. end of. should eve be easy? forums say no. or forum is confused?

What would you expect from a mitten alt.

We all know this isn't pathetic enough:

http://eve-dingo.com/coalition.php

"Then do something productive about it, as opposed to whining on the forums"

Yes, but the consequences are not irrelevant just because people take steps to mitigate them.

And people, myself included, think nothing of podding because the difference between neg 5 and neg ten is basically nonexistent. So is the difference between 0.0 and however high that goes (never got there).

The problem there lies in the sec status system. I can't go any lower than neg ten, so why shouldn't I pod someone who is too ******** to warp out? No one should lose a pod in highsec, smartbomb ambush notwithstanding.

but really if you did that 3 times from 0.0 starting point and found yourself locked out of highsec until you pay up the CONCORD bribe then you would think twice.

yeah but they're alts so who cares?

That won't ever happen, honestly. It breaks the sandbox to outright bar people from traveling. Particularly because sometimes you flat out HAVE to go through highsec.

Some are, others are mains.

You doubt the integrity of my post?

Just ask D400 .. i'm sure he'd be willing to confirm this rich payday ;) unless he delete's his in-box the eve-mail
will still be there.. though I'm more confident he'd remember, as has been stated.. "you put PLEX in your cargo hold?"

Why is it your so fixated on some words, but not other? .. in the same sentence I had explained I was less than 7 days in.
Seems you read the words but fail to read the message.

therefore you visit your local friendly corrupt CONCORD office in lowsec, where you can also obtain the tags you need to fix your status. see how they thought this out?

not that your main is affected anyway.

furthermore, docking restrictions for sov space already exist in the game as you probably know. it's not mechanics breaking or even against the ethos of eve as far as i can see. what it is is politically untenable as suicide ganking is very popular and the forums would have a spasm if CCP 'nerfed' it.

Docking restrictions, yes. Because that's how sov works. Not restrictions on even entering a system.

It's a big difference between that and locking out neg tens.

a bit more like how you can't take your cap into highsec or your supercap though any gate then?

it's not like there aren't restrictions already is my point. you can't say it would fundamentally break the mechanics of eve without knowledge of the code base whcih they apparently managed to significantly untangle for crime watch.

I didn't say it would break the mechanics, or that they didn't already exist. I said it would break the sandbox and CCP would never do it. It's a totally unnecessary change, considering the only "problem" is that people refuse to tank their mining barges or watch local during a wardec.

a bit more like how you can't take your cap into highsec or your supercap though any gate then?

it's not like there aren't restrictions already is my point. you can't say it would fundamentally break the mechanics of eve without knowledge of the code base whcih they apparently managed to significantly untangle for crime watch.

you could still do everything you could do before

Why does CONCORD allow serial killers to roam about its juristiction without silvering their plams?

Why does CONCORD allow serial killers to roam about its juristiction without silvering their plams?

CONCORD is a system designed by the developers to provide perfect retribution for criminal acts of aggression in high security space. They do their job thanklessly, every time, without fail. They do not deserve your disdain.

I have a question for you. If you are so concerned about 'serial killers' roaming about then why don't you do something about it?

You know, participate in the sandbox.

well i get the impression that high sec PvP is for nubs and i don't think i'm wrong.

but really it's all just tedious. like i'm having to warp two ships 30 jumps manually because some spacker will pod me if i afk to the staging post.

words

When put on the spot the Orders members are fast to declare that "it's only pixels and to just get over it" or "if you don't like it, leave"

I'd received no "bump" to see if I was a BOT, no nice polite message declaring to hand over the 10Mil and/or shown a link to explain WHY.

So, how does "Eve" and it's gaming community benefit from this? Does it become a better place? How does the wisdom and this sanctioned activity by the Order hold up to being any way justifiable? .. Quite simply, It doesn't.

CCP should hide it's head in utter shame for not recognizing and to act upon activity which so obviously DOES cause discomfort and IS causing it's PAYING MEMBERS a degree of unnecessary anxiety. This goes beyond being acceptable behavior in a game IMHO.

We all of us know that in a pixel world there are no emotions, but on the other side of a computer monitor ... life just doesn't work that way, and there are ALWAYS consequences to our actions in cyber space, ask any parent who's lost a child through cyber bullying and they'll tell you. A bit extreme of an example I know, but you get my point, no difference!
Ever been scammed on-line on Ebay perhaps or fallen foul to some other scam? It's not nice to be conned in any shape or form, and intimidating activity being "in-game" is no cloak to hide behind. Shouldn't we stand up to the ones responsible or is the truth that we just look out for ourselves now and laugh at the victims for not being more aware?
Ladies and Gents have we become so morally bankrupt to permit what we abhor in our RL's to now filter in and become the norm and accepted behavior even in the very place we try to escape to, to forget the world outside for a while? Not only is it being unchallenged but the protagonists have the balls to publicly recruit and justify their actions being in accordance with a "Code"!

There are "hordes" of highsec players who find entertainment within NO as well as the general community.

it is said that james 315 hosts his own teaparties in the new order's HQ where his many friends such as cloud princess and big ted make pretend writing their manifestos as dark overlords of highsec. and then reading them to other in turn.

they last on average 3 weeks.

I chuckled, but you forgot about the part where we sing songs on ts...