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Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 67	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:11:00 - [1] - Quote Why am i divulging this information? Because im out of the game soon and at present my only game play is on these forums. I know a group of people who play EVE only for the the markets. They all work in the Stock exchange and like to play EVE so that they can run market simulations for multivariate analysis of real world markets (This is multiple independant variables used to predect a depandant variable). None the less they are very rich . They have recently changed there entire tact for one simple reason and that is to punish a certain RMTer who controls a very large region of EVE and to make an even larger fortune. They have been buying up PLEXes through shell companies and alts to push up the price of PLEXes but they have done this slowly pulling in a lot of peoples private stock. There aim is to force the price of PLEX to over 600 million isk by Christmas. After which they will wait a month and then cash out riding the market wave. There aim of this is to have PLEX so high that people outside of the game switch to buying PLEXes and ignore RMT which will force him to lower his own value of isk and perhaps mean that he cannot make the rent that month A hell of a lot of subs will be lost over this as plexers can no longer afford to play, but it will be over by Jan-Feb when they can all come back. Its already starting to bite but enjoy the ride. Lastly. Ive burnt my bridges over this but i promise you that it is still going to happen
Ydnari Estrale Frontiers 42	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:21:00 - [2] - Quote I'm glad I stocked up on tinfoil hats.
stoicfaux 342	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:21:00 - [3] - Quote And how does this group of Really Bored Analysts plan on dealing with CCP's ability to step in and adjust the PLEX market? Or, given how much money is involved in RTM, how do they avoid having a social visit from their local Russian mafia? Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
Ender Black Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners 21	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:22:00 - [4] - Quote I didn't know there were a lot of players from Nigeria. TIL. The Pod Goo Podcast http://www.podgoo.com Pod Goo also publishes editorials, guest blogs, and guides for free. -áJust email [email protected] your material.
Rod Blaine Gilded Goose Brokerage 3	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:24:00 - [5] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: Why am i divulging -1 credibility for use of "divulging". Noone ever "divulges" something that is actually true you ****. People using that word should have the 23-volume greater english dictionary for words exclusively used by purple-corduroy-pant wearing marketeers and corrupt politicians' aides* hung from their ***** using a half dozen rusty fishing hooks. -1 another cred for use of the word "rich" while describing imaginary friends Karn Dulake wrote:** I know a group of people who play EVE only for the the markets. They all work in the Stock exchange and like to play EVE so that they can run market simulations for multivariate analysis of real world markets and another -1, leading to -3 and out for being dumb enough to think EVE market analysis can actually teach you something real life market analysis can not.
Demon View 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:26:00 - [6] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: They have been buying up PLEXes through shell companies and alts to push up the price of PLEXes but they have done this slowly pulling in a lot of peoples private stock. Bolded the part that destroys the plausibility of your story. "Shell companies"! Real spooky-sounding term in real-world concerns; pure pointless in Eve, and in their scheme.
Tore Vest Vikinghall 44	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:29:00 - [7] - Quote A realy good troll there 8/10
Velicitia Open Designs 39	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:31:00 - [8] - Quote hm, sounds like someone's looking to start a manipulation attempt... ... aren't those usually done from within MD?
Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 67	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:33:00 - [9] - Quote look gents i really dont care ive told you the deal and thats it. Shell companies are used so you cant trace the source as its not a mechanic that available in EVE. The prices are going up. and its not russian mafia its someone trying to pay the rent. Ive tried to hint at it in other threads but im out of game now. Watch it happen
stoicfaux 342	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:35:00 - [10] - Quote Demon View wrote: Karn Dulake wrote: They have been buying up PLEXes through shell companies and alts to push up the price of PLEXes but they have done this slowly pulling in a lot of peoples private stock. Bolded the part that destroys the plausibility of your story. "Shell companies"! Real spooky-sounding term in real-world concerns; pure pointless in Eve, and in their scheme. Not if they're using (or used) cash to buy large amounts PLEX in order to sell for isk to generate the capital needed to fund a (future) market manipulation. I think I would hide large purchases like that via shell companies, too. Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.

JC Anderson Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 63	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:36:00 - [11] - Quote LOL at which point, everybody else goes right to the accounts page and buys PLEX directly from CCP to sell for isk to take part in the price gouging. In any sense, its going to be hard to control the price on something that has a real world dollar value that WONT change.
Kla2 Defiance LLC 2	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:37:00 - [12] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: I know people that play EVE. They're going to buy and sell stuff. I am not even playing. Watch it happen. I don't have a point. There, fixed that for you.
Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 67	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:38:00 - [13] - Quote Kla2 wrote: Karn Dulake wrote: I know people that play EVE. They're going to buy and sell stuff. I am not even playing. Watch it happen. I don't have a point. There, fixed that for you. brand new character hey. no likes. Ok that my last post. good luck and then suddenly two likes, NICE
Kla2 Defiance LLC 2	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:48:00 - [14] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: Kla2 wrote: Karn Dulake wrote: I know people that play EVE. They're going to buy and sell stuff. I am not even playing. Watch it happen. I don't have a point. There, fixed that for you. brand new character hey. no likes. Ok that my last post. good luck I am properly ashamed for posting without proper credentials. Can you ever forgive me?
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN. 246	Posted - 2011.10.31 20:52:00 - [15] - Quote The last person who tried to manipulate the plex market could only sustain it for under 24 hours. This is not a group manipulating the market it is the sheer amount of people switching accounts to plex instead of paying RL.. This has been a trend that started after Incarna and is now starting to peak. Your troll is interesting though.
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 127	Posted - 2011.11.01 03:16:00 - [16] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: Why am i divulging this information? Because im out of the game soon and at present my only game play is on these forums. Your first two sentences remind very much of Nigerian spamscams. The rest of your message did a pretty good impression as well. Obvious market manipulation attempt is obvious. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!
Soldarius Peek-A-Boo Bombers 53	Posted - 2011.11.01 03:26:00 - [17] - Quote Let the trolling begin. As you are quitting, I can haz your stuff? And, last but not least, Market Discussion is ---------->>> Thata way. "How do you kill that which has no life?"
Apollo Gabriel Mercatoris Etherium Cartel 121	Posted - 2011.11.01 03:28:00 - [18] - Quote +1, I'm amused. Thanks! AG New Player "boost" https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=243993#post243993 Mining + War Decks = yummy! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=25608&find=unread
Apollo Gabriel Mercatoris Etherium Cartel 121	Posted - 2011.11.01 03:30:00 - [19] - Quote Also, I'd be wary drinking kool aid from these guys. New Player "boost" https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=243993#post243993 Mining + War Decks = yummy! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=25608&find=unread
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 219	Posted - 2011.11.01 03:37:00 - [20] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: Why am i divulging this information? because your earlier posts failed to sway CCP to come insure the future of cheap plex for you, so now you are trying to failmanipulate the market this should be in the market forum The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy

Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 69	Posted - 2011.11.01 03:42:00 - [21] - Quote Im not trying to manipulate the market otherwise i would have posted in the other section. Its just information for you and a scenerio that will play out over the next few months.
Cannibal Kane Umkhonto we Sizwe 55	Posted - 2011.11.01 05:36:00 - [22] - Quote For a moment I thought I was on the AboveTopSecret forums. They also have this kind of crap on there talking about information divulged to them in confidence. But just had to Share it with EVERYBODY. The Crazy South African.
Headerman Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx 293	Posted - 2011.11.01 05:40:00 - [23] - Quote Nub question; How does one go about getting a plex to put on the market? The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why?
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 61	Posted - 2011.11.01 05:44:00 - [24] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: Im not trying to manipulate the market otherwise i would have posted in the other section. Its just information for you and a scenerio that will play out over the next few months. Hurry up and quit EVE already. Go away.
Krios Ahzek Juvenis Iratus 3	Posted - 2011.11.01 06:03:00 - [25] - Quote Headerman wrote: Nub question; How does one go about getting a plex to put on the market? Work at McDonalds for two hours a week; use credit card to acquire it.
Sebero Sinak Eve Pilots Revolutionary Army 18	Posted - 2011.11.01 06:09:00 - [26] - Quote As the rage posting over Incarna was entering the "sustained for so long these people must be really ticked" phase the price of plex started to rise. People were using thier bank of isk and not RL money for renewals - waiting on the winter expansion. Also there were fewer casual players who often fund their play by buying plexs and selling for reasonable prices quickly. What i'm trying to figure out is the train of thought the OP used to believe anyone would worry about his post.
ACE McFACE Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 44	Posted - 2011.11.01 06:11:00 - [27] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: There aim is to force the price of PLEX to over 600 million isk by Christmas. Will no one think of the children?? ZE GOGGLES, ZEY DO NOTHING! (Not wearing them so don't waste your time reading this sig)
Written Word Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 77	Posted - 2011.11.01 06:35:00 - [28] - Quote I have it on good authority that I will eat a burrito and it will make me slightly fatter.
Nyio Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 193	Posted - 2011.11.01 06:36:00 - [29] - Quote Hurry! Let's all act on this secret info fast! Features & Ideas Discussion: Skill Training, Agent Finder, Black Holes Needs a banner here..

CCP Spitfire C C P C C P Alliance 383	Posted - 2011.11.01 07:55:00 - [30] - Quote Moved from "EVE General Discussion". CCP Spitfire \| Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire


Wyke Mossari Staner Industries 9	Posted - 2011.11.01 09:17:00 - [31] - Quote I love a good market manipulating conspiracy theory as much as anybody, but this is transparent flawed. The risk price of PLEX is directly related to the massive new ISK source resulting from incursions, even with their crippled bounties it is huge. It would not surprise me if it replaces bounties as the #one faucet and will certainly eclipse mission rewards.
Kara Books Hedion University Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2011.11.01 11:43:00 - [32] - Quote Well, lets start off with the fact that your probably one of the investors posting on the forums scaring people into buying up more of the plex. Wonderful story, wonderful, so many like this one pop up on this section on the forums, the entertainment factor from you GOONS is actually pretty high grade. Now that we that out of the way.... Every one get onboard and push it to Obviously not 600 and then try to get out of it before one of the big guys decides to sell off. (cry me a river)
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 40	Posted - 2011.11.01 15:24:00 - [33] - Quote Karn Dulake wrote: Im not trying to manipulate the market otherwise i would have posted in the other section. Its just information for you and a scenerio that will play out over the next few months. Your posts in other sections are equally bad. Also for someone who doesn't seem to be able to play with others (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=28247&find=unread) I don't think you have any real life friends anyway, enjoy your hand. Quit already, the quota of bad posting on this forum is already over critical.
OllieNorth R-K Industries Sexy Alliance 4	Posted - 2011.11.01 16:04:00 - [34] - Quote Honestly guys, take it easy. He's just an actual ******, and honestly believes this. Definitely not manipulation.
Mantra Achura Community for Justice BricK sQuAD. 3	Posted - 2011.11.01 18:20:00 - [35] - Quote Something I have learned in the past: "Don't buy If prices are rising." The market is too hot.
Ariel Dawn F9X 35	Posted - 2011.11.01 20:29:00 - [36] - Quote Problem with that rule is that the price of PLEX/Game Time has been rising constantly upwards over the entire period that EVE has been out and never been going down, nor would there be a reason for CCP to intervene. A single PLEX now costs over 50% more than a 90 day GTC did a few years ago, and even back then people were crying out that the prices were "ridiculous" (270m for a 90). PLEXes reaching 1b a few years down the line will probably happen.
Levija Saplina Supremacy Inc. Not Found. 4	Posted - 2011.11.02 08:57:00 - [37] - Quote Shell companies ... this has got to be the best post I've seen all day. NO --- just NO !
Companion Qube Positive Cashflow through Positive Thinking SRS. 54	Posted - 2011.11.02 09:08:00 - [38] - Quote Interesting information ive obtained regarding PLEX prices: Dongues, that is all.
Nex apparatu5 Not a Shell Corp 29	Posted - 2011.11.02 16:35:00 - [39] - Quote Companion Qube wrote: Interesting information ive obtained regarding PLEX prices: Dongues, that is all. OH **** runs to the market to buy plexes
Diomedes Calypso Aetolian Armada 27	Posted - 2011.11.03 23:08:00 - [40] - Quote Troll or not, rumor spreading speculator pumping prices for profit or not....... ... it is an intersting story and would be particularly so if it actually were to happen. Sandbox.. great sandbox where some players can manipulate the environment so other players must respond and so cool that it applies to more than ship to ship combat. The anti RMT throws in another angle .... it makes the post more suspicious yet it would be the ripest scenario. - as i've pointed out a number of times, I do believe that plex prices can be pushed higher because the motivation of the largest segments of ISK sellers are not based about value in terms of "a good deal" but on their interest in the game and their aim to get certain specific game assets.---- if they needed 1.2 billion isk they very well would sell just two plex instead of the 3 then need to sell at 400 million. - certainly there will be less isk>plex buyers at 600 million that incremental extra account you aren't doing much with will get shuddered....but still there is a point where isk risk players would pay even a billion isk a month to keep their titan pilot running or some lucrative industrialist who 's earnings monthly dwarf a 1 billion cost. On to the RMT plausible that the RMT could be -interupted- but the smart economists must know they will rise again like rats. The more isk they need to give layers for their money more effort and risk of detection then need to take on to fill that demand.... they will start droppiing. I don't know much about the rent thing though. That does not ring true to me. I would expect that they earned healthy mutiples of the rent they pay farmind. 5 , 10 or 15 times what they pay in monthly rent. Still, even if i couldn't break the back of the RmT it would certainly haze them a bit having thier real $ income cut and their effort and atttention rise.



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