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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.08.26 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Darth Tom on 26/08/2003 09:26:43 CHOAM has declared war on Dreamcatchers Inc. Dreamworks will be brought to task and punished for his insolence, and his corp (such as it is) will suffer alongside him.
To further this aim, I seek information.
I will pay 50K ISK for information on the location of Dreamcatchers' mining and trading operations.
I wish to know where they operate, and at what times.
Depending on the information, I will be willing to pay substantially more. Information on their ships and potential loadouts will command a high price.
Contact me in game with details, please, not on this forum, for obvious reasons. I would also ask for screenshots of their operations, clearly showning their ships and the system.
All sources will be kept totally anonymous.
Cheers, TOM
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.08.26 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 26/08/2003 09:43:49 50k? <40 seconds later> There, I just earned 120k. Anything else?
... No, seriously. I wouldn't see a reason even if I knew the info, not for 50k.
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.26 09:54:00 -
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50k is insulting. thats the bounty on one NPC pirate.
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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.08.26 09:55:00 -
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Quote: ... No, seriously. I wouldn't see a reason even if I knew the info, not for 50k.
Then contact me in game and we'll discuss a price.
If it's good info, I'll pay, and pay *well*.
Cheers, TOM
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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.08.26 09:58:00 -
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Quote: 50k is insulting. thats the bounty on one NPC pirate.
*shrug* name your price. All I have to go on are the bounties people are offering for corpses in here.
If you think what you have is worth more, name your price.
Cheers, TOM
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Targatta
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Posted - 2003.08.26 11:31:00 -
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I also seek information, why are we at war with you anyway?
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Captain Tinrib
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Posted - 2003.08.26 11:34:00 -
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Quote:
I will pay 50K ISK for information on the location of Dreamcatchers' mining and trading operations.
You might wanna add a couple more 0's to that figure
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Lady Callisto
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Posted - 2003.08.26 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Callisto on 26/08/2003 11:43:30 LOL go do your own scouting. but i'm sure dream will win this one ez
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Thallia
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Posted - 2003.08.26 11:49:00 -
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Anyone wanna buy my silence ? 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.08.26 12:18:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Darth Tom on 26/08/2003 09:26:43 CHOAM has declared war on Dreamcatchers Inc. Dreamworks will be brought to task and punished for his insolence, and his corp (such as it is) will suffer alongside him.
To further this aim, I seek information.
I will pay 50K ISK for information on the location of Dreamcatchers' mining and trading operations.
I wish to know where they operate, and at what times.
Depending on the information, I will be willing to pay substantially more. Information on their ships and potential loadouts will command a high price.
Contact me in game with details, please, not on this forum, for obvious reasons. I would also ask for screenshots of their operations, clearly showning their ships and the system.
All sources will be kept totally anonymous.
Cheers, TOM
Cool!
Dart Tom is a guy who claimed i stole ore from someone, he forgot to check the character named dreamw0rks and therefor i contacted him to explain the situation regarding this mather.
I had send him a GM message i received regarding this mather, where was clearly stated that there was another character named dreamw0rks and the senior GM would look into this mather since this character was deleted.
I adviced Dart Tom to keep his mouth shut, before he made a fool even more out of himself and told him that if he didnt checked any data he better stfu. I also told him to petition regarding this mather since Dart didnt believed the petition msg from GM Aeryn was true.
He told me he didnt and that it was childish to do (right ). He also didnt wanted to check with OVERSCOPES 1 who was victim from the ore theft (Dart wasnt even a victim), and made foolish and unbased accusations towards me.
Anyway, this is the history, and i wish you goodluck in your war Dart Tom.
DreamCatchers Inc. is now paying 1mil for the information where CHOAM have there mining operations, for more info on the conditions please contact me ingame.
Dont bother looking for us Dart, we will look for you.
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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.08.26 12:47:00 -
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Quote: He told me he didnt and that it was childish to do (right ). He also didnt wanted to check with OVERSCOPES 1 who was victim from the ore theft (Dart wasnt even a victim), and made foolish and unbased accusations towards me.
Yes, I do think it is childish to constantly petition the GMs over in game mechanics which they have no control over.
Overcopes 1 was not the the victim of the ore theft.
You provided no proof that there was another character called Dreamw0rks - apart from some text you claimed was from a GM.
I was there, I witnessed the theft, and a character search immediately afterwards turned up 1 person - you. No duplicates, no other characters with 0s or anything else in their name.
Obviously, it is possible for someone to delete a character within minutes of using them - please forgive my mental confusion.
Given your verbal attacks on people on the forums and in game who dare to disagree with you, I'd hardly say you were a trustworthy person. I just don't believe any of the poorly organised information you provide - it passes over me in much the same way as your feeble and ineffectual insults.
The fact that you then degenerate into insults and petty, childish name calling underlines the sort of person you are.
My foolish and unbased accusations were based around the fact that your activities with the Trade Federation to create a price fixing cartel were short sighted and foolish, and displayed an abysmal lack of understanding of market forces.
Obviously you are a business genius as well as an intellectual giant - my mistake is now so glaringly obvious that I shrivel with embarrasment at the mere thought I could have doubted you.
You seem to think that insulting people and belittling their point of view in some way proves your points. You also seem to think that you can insult and be abusive to people without comeback.
I will now provide you with examples of what normal people recognise as "consequences of their actions".
I can't wait for you to start petitioning the GMs as you lose ships. Possibly some whining on the forums will be in order as well, eh?
Quote: Dont bother looking for us Dart, we will look for you.
Good-oh, whiner. We were in in Great Wildlands last night - given there are only 3 stations there I'm sure even someone as mentally incapacitated as yourself could find us.
Maybe.
Cheers, TOM
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Jobe Katarn
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Posted - 2003.08.26 13:14:00 -
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ooof.....pwned! In arduis fidelis Steadfast in Adversity
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Avon
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Posted - 2003.08.26 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 26/08/2003 13:40:54 Just a quick note, most information agents I control would not even undock for your original offer. Whilst my trade is some-what shady I still take your initial offer as an insult. We may be sneaky and sly, but we are all hardworking and honest (well, at least honest to the person paying the bills!)
Don't make me slip an agent into your corp - you may find a horses head paperweight on your desk!
EDIT:- I am not taking sides on this issue, that is bad for business. ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |

John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.08.26 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: John Zeppe on 26/08/2003 13:37:53 AFAIK dreamw0rks IS a known ore thief. If you declared war because of that, well that's bad. Did you think of checking his current corp? 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.08.26 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: DREAMWORKS on 26/08/2003 14:20:29
The actual link with the other guys avatar i dont have anymore, its somewhere on the forums, but search isnt implemented therefor:
chatlog.txt
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Wodka
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:01:00 -
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i have personnally seen this character Dreamw0rks he was in an amarr n00b corp.
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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:23:00 -
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Quote: If you declared war because of that, well that's bad.
No, it's not because of that. Dreamworks would like everyone to think that, because he can then run around crying "Look at me! Look at me! I've been wronged!"
His attitude, and the casual way he feels he can insult others who disagree with him, have landed him - and his corp - in hot water.
Dreamworks' continued existence is an affront to me, and I seek to bring about his demise.
Here is CHOAM's declaration of war.
For those who have, or can acquire, information about Dreamcatchers Inc. activities and locations, I apologise for my low offer.
I have no yardstick to compare against, hence the low figure.
Again, if anyone has any information, contact me in game, and name your price.
Oh, and Dreamworks? If you think your phallic slug of a ship will save you, think again.
Cheers, TOM
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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:28:00 -
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Quote:
chatlog.txt
Oh my! That *is* priceless! 
I did wonder how long it would take before you went whining to a GM.
Do you honestly think that a GM will step in to save you? You have been abusive and insulting, and you now have a war on your hands because of your behaviour to fellow players, and you whine to a GM to help you?
I look forward with great anticipation to our future meetings.
Your corp mates would be well served indeed by distancing themselves from you, with some alacrity.
I eagerly await the promised conversation with GM White 
Cheers, TOM
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:42:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
chatlog.txt
Oh my! That *is* priceless! 
I did wonder how long it would take before you went whining to a GM.
Do you honestly think that a GM will step in to save you? You have been abusive and insulting, and you now have a war on your hands because of your behaviour to fellow players, and you whine to a GM to help you?
I look forward with great anticipation to our future meetings.
Your corp mates would be well served indeed by distancing themselves from you, with some alacrity.
I eagerly await the promised conversation with GM White 
Cheers, TOM

Oh pleaaaase mister Muppet,
It only shows that you have a serious lack of intellect and a straight liar.
Checked right away when you seen that ore thief leave heh? Well this shows you ya muppet arse forgot to use a Z-E-R-O instead of an o.
I and my team will be glad to make you a part of space dust, so dont make your pathetic life worse than it allready is and go back to that cave you crawled from. __________________________
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Factory Boy
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:42:00 -
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Dreamworks going to war, eh!
More than one ship in a system, eh!
OMG how can Dreamcatchers fight with so much LAG! We'll have to petition to stop these people coming into our systems what with NPC hunters and PvPers the game will be unplayable!
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Shock
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:52:00 -
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Oh someone stole your ore??? How sad...never heard of secure cans?
According to the devs it isn't even stealing, but cleaning up your mess.
Really why would anyone like DREAMWORKS (mind you not using the 'zero') waste his time stealing ore? It's not like you earn much with it excpet a ****load of hatred. --- soonÖ |

Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.08.26 16:12:00 -
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"I also seek information, why are we at war with you anyway?"
If I had to guess, it would be because of your CEO.
I would have declared war on him just for the laughable assertion that people chain killing NPC pirates are greifing and exploiting.
Such stupidity must be crusehd 
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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.08.26 16:17:00 -
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Quote: Oh someone stole your ore??? How sad...never heard of secure cans?
Umm, no-one stole my ore. I never claimed they did. Comments further up this thread should clarify the situation.
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Really why would anyone like DREAMWORKS (mind you not using the 'zero') waste his time stealing ore? It's not like you earn much with it excpet a ****load of hatred.
This thread explains the repurcussions of ore theft. It also gives a handy example of Dreamwork's poor attitude to fellow players - an attitude which has landed him in hot water.
And, *sigh*, again, whether Dreamworks was the thief is not the issue. His constant abuse and insults to other players who disagree with him is.
That attitude has consequences, and this war is one of them.
Despite how he wishes to paint the situation.
Cheers, TOM
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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.08.26 16:19:00 -
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Quote: If I had to guess, it would be because of your CEO.
I would have declared war on him just for the laughable assertion that people chain killing NPC pirates are greifing and exploiting.
Such stupidity must be crusehd 
Indeed. 
Cheers, TOM
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xpero
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Posted - 2003.08.26 16:33:00 -
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Thats so foolish to go to war for such stupid misunderstanding. If you wanna go to war, it has to be for a good reason. As far as i can see, both of you haven't resolved this issue and i can't see the point of blaming another corp for misdeeds of just one player. it is not like the whole corp supports the actions of the wrong-do'er. if both of your corps can reconcile this matter, then i have only one thing to say - "Immature".    (\_/) (O.o) (> <)
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.26 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: agrizla on 26/08/2003 16:48:54 Umm I'm getting confused now I read the above as Darth Tom is going to war because he doesn't like Dreamworks attitude to other players, not because of any "ore theft". Is that in fact the case?
Just clarifying as that doesn't seem to be what Dreamworks said to the GMs.....
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Wisp
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Posted - 2003.08.26 17:13:00 -
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I think you both need to be sent to your stations without any supper.   "Anytime you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get and that includes respect" -Woody Hayes- |

DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.08.26 18:18:00 -
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So let me get this right,
You call me a thief because you seen it, i try to tell you im simply not and show you an mssg i received.
You call me a liar, i give up and call you a loser, idiot, moron whatever that apply to you. And your angry at me?
You started with the insult of calling me a thief, if you had any brains in that monkey face of yours you would have checked properly... But nooooo, you call _me_ a thief and you call me a liar and i should bow and beg for mercy?
Listen up peanutbrains go waste your time with your mother or something, cuz i laugh at you. MUHA MUHAHAHA MUHAAAA
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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.08.26 18:27:00 -
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Quote: Umm I'm getting confused now I read the above as Darth Tom is going to war because he doesn't like Dreamworks attitude to other players, not because of any "ore theft". Is that in fact the case?
Yes, that is it exactly.
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Just clarifying as that doesn't seem to be what Dreamworks said to the GMs.....
Yes, that is true as well.
Draw your own conclusions .......
Cheers, TOM
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Dr Snarl
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Posted - 2003.08.27 19:10:00 -
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Good this game is now getting interesting. ________________________________________________ "One may smile, and smile, and be a villain" -- William Shakespeare
"Forgot it, just Snarl" -- Dr Snarl |

sensitive
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Posted - 2003.08.28 07:36:00 -
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If you wonder why dreamworks got a war on his ass
go look at his "enligtened" replys in this thread. On the brink of losing a discussion he will start the name calling and swearing.
Hes probably a 14 year old CEO who doesnt have a clue that his attitude is causing his corp mates some serious problems.
go figure that out dream, for Im afraid your the only one in this thread with " peanuts for brains "
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2003.08.28 08:49:00 -
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Ur not allowed to post stuff the GM's say to you on the forums. OMG BAN
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Rex Mortalis
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Posted - 2003.08.28 08:57:00 -
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How come it's Tom that's declaring war and not Freel? Has there been a change in the structure there?
I've met Dreamworks (that's the one without the '0') and he seems a decent guy. Furthermore, a guy with an Apoc stealing ore? Just doesn't make sense.
Rex
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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.08.28 09:21:00 -
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Quote: How come it's Tom that's declaring war and not Freel? Has there been a change in the structure there?
I am CHOAM's CEO - Aerin stepped down many months ago due to other time commitments.
Dreamwork's misrepresentation of the reasons for war to GM White, and his inability to view basic information about a corp, bode badly for us at CHOAM.
With such a mental giant running their corporation, Dreamcatchers will surely crush us!
I will not even discuss his posting of a private chat log with a GM, which is so out of order it is untrue.
Quote:
I've met Dreamworks (that's the one without the '0') and he seems a decent guy.
Yes, his civility and common sense are legendary 
Cheers, TOM
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Jack Stone
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Posted - 2003.08.28 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Stone on 28/08/2003 09:59:36 Wow DreamWorks I am sooooo glad not to be you right now.
Though if you do want some protection I can arrange it at a cost. 
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Avon
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Posted - 2003.08.28 10:57:00 -
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Quote: Though if you do want some protection I can arrange it at a cost.
I would not advise that course of action. It would be unwise for you to take any action in this situation.
Just some friendly advise. ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |

Lady Callisto
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Posted - 2003.08.28 11:38:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Though if you do want some protection I can arrange it at a cost.
I would not advise that course of action. It would be unwise for you to take any action in this situation.
Just some friendly advise.
the same to you dude
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Avon
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Posted - 2003.08.28 15:46:00 -
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Thank you for your concern.
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