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HoogaStank SHOSHO
Back Alley Abortion Clinic Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:36:00 -
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GÇó Chapter 1 - Bond Terms and Conditions GÇó Chapter 2 - Purpose of the bond GÇó Chapter 3 - Business Plan GÇó Chapter 4 - Disclosure of Risks GÇó Chapter 5 - Exit Strategy
Chapter 1 - Bond Terms and Conditions
This is a 15 Billion ISK bond with 10% interest per month (paid 2.5% weekly). 15 bonds at 1billion each.
Price of bond - 1billion each Number of bonds - 15 Interest - 10% per month (paid 2.5% weekly) Length - 4 month (4 weeks) Start date - To be determined Collateral - None Reports - Minimum of an end of bond report
Chapter 2 - Purpose of this Bond
This bond has a singular focus of quickly gearing up station trading(null Sec) for maximum gains for the duration of the bond. Once the bond concludes, plans will shift away from station trading to pursue other ventures. Personal funds in the amount of 5billion will be used alongside public funds for a total of 20 billion for station trading.The bond will be also used toward a manufactoring setup in null so i can keep providing the maket in the null sec region i am in with required items such as :Ship hulls, Equipment,Rigs,etc
Chapter 3 - Business Plan
This is my first bonds ,I know this is my first bond and there is a factor to can you trust this player and will he beable to fullfill the promises and that is a yes,give me a chance and you wont go wrong with me, the business plan will revolve around station trading (in null sec space). Public funds will be used in buy low/sell high strategy with fast turnaround along with market manipulations, short term speculation and other strategies. The funds for this venture will be two part with 15 billion in public funds and 5 billion in personal funds for a total of 20 billion with an expected net profit of+/- 10-15 billiondepending on Null sec market trading billion at bond completion.
Chapter 4 - Risks
Scam. Always a risk in eve and as such needs to be addressed. I will say that I find scamming in poor taste and have no intention of doing so. Ganking, wardec. N/A - Hoogastank SHOSHO will not be flying with any items connected with public funds. Real life scenarios. In my opinion, this is the highest risk factor for this bond. If something unexpected does occur, I will do everything in my power to keep investors updated, return quickly and settle matters to the satisfaction of the investors.
Chapter 5 - Exit Strategy
If trading does not go as expected or sudden circumstances prohibit me from further trading then current buy orders will be slowed or stopped and all interest will be paid as if the bond had reached its completion and all principal returned to investors.
Investor List No one as yet
Reserve List
Interest Payout Schedule
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Nanatoa
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:39:00 -
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An unsecured bond for market manipulation in null sec? No problem, I'll pledge 20 billion right now. "Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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HoogaStank SHOSHO
Back Alley Abortion Clinic Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:46:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:An unsecured bond for market manipulation in null sec? No problem, I'll pledge 20 billion right now. Are you pulling my leg or you been serious? I know this is my first time on requesting for a bond . You ask can i trust this man in real life i am a web developer who develops payment gateways that process alot of transactions on a hourly basis so i believe been trust worthy in real life and in eve i have no reason to scam or steal money i will never do that in real life i would never do it in eve.
Thanks
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Nanatoa
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:52:00 -
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You should look at this from the point of an investor:
First bond <-- slightly risky 15B bond <-- pretty risky unsecured <-- risky market manipulation <-- huge risk null sec <-- 100% bond failure rate (I'm open for counterexamples) "Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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HoogaStank SHOSHO
Back Alley Abortion Clinic Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:56:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:You should look at this from the point of an investor:
First bond <-- slightly risky 15B bond <-- pretty risky unsecured <-- risky market manipulation <-- huge risk null sec <-- 100% bond failure rate (I'm open for counterexamples)
1)To be honest the system we are in it is quite from neuts so there is no risk there. 2)The region we in is pretty quite from neuts so getting the products to the different stations in the region there wont be any problems there. 3)For me to get the products to null wont be hard but there is abit of risk involed there .
Thanks
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Nanatoa
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:02:00 -
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The excessive failure rate of bonds in null sec is a historical fact. I bet most of those bonds seemed like a good idea at the time, but something which made them fail happened anyway.
Something similar goes for market manipulation: if done well, it is high risk, high gain at best; if done any other way, it is high risk, low gain (or high loss). And 20 billion is not a lot for market manipulation, not even in relatively low stocked null sec stations. Someone with 40 billion, or 100 billion isk might sweep in and destroy your manipulation attempt. "Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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HoogaStank SHOSHO
Back Alley Abortion Clinic Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:10:00 -
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True i seriously dont want to have fight all i am asking is ppl to invest to ward the bond and i promise you you wont go wrong you need faith . |

Nanatoa
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:24:00 -
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I understand you don't want a fight (neither do I), you just want someone to trust you with 15 billion of their isk.
I've said everything I wanted to say, so I'll leave it to others to comment further or take up your offer. I wish you wisdom and luck in your business. "Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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HoogaStank SHOSHO
Back Alley Abortion Clinic Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:25:00 -
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Thanks |

Setsune Rin
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:57:00 -
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so we laughed you out of your old thread less then 24 hours ago....and now you're creating a new one? but instead you copy+paste a rykker bond?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=283443&find=unread
just get out
or at least analyze why rykker is succesfull and then get out |
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1065
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Posted - 2013.10.05 14:10:00 -
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Blame Elizabeth for linking Rykker's bond in the old thread.
@OP you went from needing 15b for a Rorqual pilot to needing 15b for station trading in less than a day. Looks to me like you just want 15b ISK and your "business plan" is just a silly pretext that you will change to whatever gets you the money. |

Logical Chaos
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.10.05 14:48:00 -
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HoogaStank SHOSHO wrote:Nanatoa wrote:An unsecured bond for market manipulation in null sec? No problem, I'll pledge 20 billion right now. Are you pulling my leg or you been serious? I know this is my first time on requesting for a bond .You ask can i trust this man in real life i am a web developer who develops payment gateways that process alot of transactions on a hourly basis so i believe been trust worthy in real life and in eve i have no reason to scam or steal money i will never do that in real life i would never do it in eve. Thanks
If it really was chances would probably be better :P |

X ATM092
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.10.05 19:21:00 -
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But will you double my isk if I send it to you? |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2013.10.05 19:23:00 -
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This is much better OP and I am thinking about filling all of it for you, please contact me in game. .
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:47:00 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:This is much better OP and I am thinking about filling all of it for you, please contact me in game.
Wish I had that kind of money to burn. |

enterprisePSI
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Posted - 2013.10.06 08:34:00 -
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In before I LIKE IT The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi-¬
I made tweet, Y U NO FOLLOW!!! |

Lord LazyGhost
Pissed Every Night Including Sundays
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Posted - 2013.10.06 16:14:00 -
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holds breath |

Lord LazyGhost
Pissed Every Night Including Sundays
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Posted - 2013.10.06 16:14:00 -
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stops holding breath thats long enuf never gona happen |

I Was There
Scorpion Invest
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Posted - 2013.10.08 17:01:00 -
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I just dislike aren't putting effort into their posting. |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2013.10.14 03:20:00 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:This is much better OP and I am thinking about filling all of it for you, please contact me in game.
OP did not contact me so I guess they no longer need the loan, oh well. .
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The Greenmachine Greenmachine
Green's Bicycle Shop
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Posted - 2013.10.14 03:51:00 -
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i'd like to buy a vowel |

HoogaStank SHOSHO
Back Alley Abortion Clinic Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:58:00 -
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Hello All,
Thanks for all the replys even if you just making fun of me what ever makes you happy.
I been quite as real life been keeping me busy.
I am still looking for investors . As you all know we all have to start some where . The only way for me to prove my self if someone just invests in me or loans me the isk....
Have a great day. |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.10.17 11:02:00 -
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HoogaStank SHOSHO wrote:As you all know we all have to start some where . A 15b uncollateralized loan is not a good place to start. |

HoogaStank SHOSHO
Back Alley Abortion Clinic Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2013.10.17 11:06:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:HoogaStank SHOSHO wrote:As you all know we all have to start some where . A 15b uncollateralized loan is not a good place to start.
Hey, That is the total amount i require but if some one comes along to loan me 6bill to see if i keep to deal then that will help me out.
Thanks |

Kendra Coldera
Ripoff Industries
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Posted - 2013.10.17 11:35:00 -
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You don't start with 15b and also not 6b.you would be lucky to get 1b with your proposal. |

Rykker Bow
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:02:00 -
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Even 1b is very optimistic. Bond amounts in MD usually revolve around a couple of different things. Trust. Effort. Research.
As this is your first bond and you have no posting history or contacts within the community your trust is nill. Effort, do I really need to expand on this past your blatant plagiarism? Research, none apparent.
You will be very unlikely to obtain a bond with your character with the many missteps you have made so far. |

HoogaStank SHOSHO
Back Alley Abortion Clinic Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:20:00 -
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Lets see what happens why don't we. Because i have done the research and effort ,trust is earned and the only way i can earn the trust by someone taking a risk on me by loaning me the isk .
Yes it is very risky but in real life i am a very trust worthy person and i try to bring that into the life of eve as well.
It is upto that person that is willing to take a risk.
You all are titled to your opinions and i wont judge .
Thanks :) |

Rykker Bow
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Posted - 2013.10.17 12:33:00 -
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HoogaStank SHOSHO wrote: Because i have done the research and effort
Lets start with the effort part. What effort would you say was put into the original post?
From my subjective perspective, it is very obvious that you cut and pasted my last bond offering and made only token changes, with horrible grammar I might add. I do not claim to have perfect grammar or even good diction, but I firmly believe everyone should know the basics of capitalization.
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Sorao Soreen
Section 496
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Posted - 2013.10.17 13:17:00 -
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HoogaStank SHOSHO wrote:Lets see what happens why don't we.
Yes it is very risky but in real life i am a very trust worthy person and i try to bring that into the life of eve as well.
Thanks :)
I dont care if your a trust worthy person IRL i care if your a trust worthy person in eve. Using someone else's post and making small changes, to me does not scream out Trust me I am awsome and also asking for 15bil right of the bat is a Huge nono. glad i stoped holding my breath days ago or i would surly be dead. |

Setsune Rin
Bite Me inc Bitten.
99
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Posted - 2013.10.17 13:31:00 -
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HoogaStank SHOSHO wrote:
Yes it is very risky but in real life i am a very trust worthy person and i try to bring that into the life of eve as well.
i'm trustworthy in RL as well, but thats mostly because i'm gona get my ass thrown in jail and/or get severe financial reprecussions for a long time if i default a loan. aka your claim is irrelivant
I'd say milk some more out of that renter space you occupy and stop posting here, come back when you're a succesfull rorqual miner and gloat here or something.
This trainwreck of a post has lost its entertainment. |
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