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Berendas
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:45:00 -
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I am rapidly finding EVE to be in its best state in years. Ship rebalancing has left players with a much larger range of boats to fly for the same role, and each race has several viable PVP and PVE platforms, moongoo was nerfed, exploration has been made more engaging, and there are a slew of tantalizing changes coming in November. CCP certainly has a long way to go, but things are looking bright from a mechanics standpoint, and I applaud CCP for their progress.
However...
The last few weeks have seen a very intense period of public relations catastrophes. Now, I only recently reactivated my account about 1.5 months ago (which I did specifically because I read about the HAC/Command Ship buffs and could not contain my joy), but I have heard/read that the last year or so has seen a few incidents similar to the recent TOS and SOMER Blink firestorms. Having not been present for prior events, I cannot weigh in on them, and will focus on the two most recent issues.
CCP, this has to stop. The decisions that lead to the issues in question is one thing, but your responses to players' reactions is entirely inexcusable. Dev/GM responses as of late have been vague, unhelpful, slow, or any combination of the three. All of this is hurting your players, and thus your bottom line.
The recent community handlings are a massive disservice to your design teams as well. They are working incredibly hard to make this game balanced, convenient, and fun. And they are succeeding! But by making conscious choices that are sure to be inflammatory to the playerbase (and really, you couldn't not see this coming), you are working against your own progress.
In the space of about 2 weeks, you have:
The changing of long understood rules into a vague and draconian mess
And the blatant favoritism of for-profit player organizations, analagous to the (in)famous T20 incident.
All of this is working counter to the open sandbox oriented gameplay that you have spent so long cultivating, CCP and more than a large part of your customer base has voiced its discontent. I know that personally, I've held off on purchasing the Collector's Edition and resubbing my alt in light of these decisions, and I know that there are many players that are quicker to control their purse strings than myself. If this current PR trajectory holds, people are liable to start jumping ship as we witnessed in 2011.
Following the Incarna debacle, you promised more transparency and dev-player dialogue. Time to put your money where your mouth is CCP, because people are going to start taking theirs elsewhere.
TLDR: EVE can be the best game ever, but if you play favorites and your handling of the community is poor, people will still stop playing. |
Berendas
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
628
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:46:00 -
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Reserved |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
2058
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:49:00 -
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Hear, hear. Shame this will be locked because the ISDs are lashing out at everything with the word "SOMER" in the OP.
Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Berendas
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
628
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:57:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Hear, hear. Shame this will be locked because the ISDs are lashing out at everything with the word "SOMER" in the OP.
I hope not. I tried to keep the OP as clean and constructive as possible. I can't say a padlock would surprise me, but I'd be grateful if we could use the thread for an intelligent discussion on the recent happenings. |
Kryptos Sanguar
Scrambled Eggs Inc.
2
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Posted - 2013.10.06 15:54:00 -
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The TOS changes don't bother me nearly so much as the handouts to Blink. In that case the 'transgression' is in concrete measurable terms, and the issue can be clarified by the items' ISK value. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
407
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:23:00 -
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Neither of these things you are referring to have been a 'firestorm' in the slightest.
Marauders changes by far have been a hotter topic of debate than both of these topics put together. |
GheyNeil
Start to Finish
1
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:26:00 -
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Kryptos Sanguar wrote:The TOS changes don't bother me nearly so much as the handouts to Blink. In that case the 'transgression' is in concrete measurable terms, and the issue can be clarified by the items' ISK value.
In a way, I think that makes the TOS changes a little more worrisome. They are at least being addressed though, even if the CCP response was sluggish. |
Ammzi
Love Squad
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1561
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:55:00 -
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All ISD's are bastards.
AIAB
PS: Just kidding. Only some of you.
CCP Navagiator AKA CCP T20 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4724
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Posted - 2013.10.06 21:18:00 -
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Kryptos Sanguar wrote:The TOS changes don't bother me nearly so much as the handouts to Blink. In that case the 'transgression' is in concrete measurable terms, and the issue can be clarified by the items' ISK value.
only refines to 1 trit
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
White Mountain Coalition
428
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:13:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Kryptos Sanguar wrote:The TOS changes don't bother me nearly so much as the handouts to Blink. In that case the 'transgression' is in concrete measurable terms, and the issue can be clarified by the items' ISK value. only refines to 1 trit
I laughed when I read that elsewhere on these forums, CCP deciding that a rare and almost priceless ship refines to 1 trit does not actually make the ship any less valuable as lets face it nobody would refine one of these in any case because they are precious and rare etc. Their value is in the ship design and the unique paint job, not the minerals. It's like giving someone the Mona Lisa and saying that it's worthless if you scrape of all of the paint to reveal the canvas so everything is ok lol.
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs
Monkeys with Guns.
7
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Posted - 2013.10.06 23:28:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Kryptos Sanguar wrote:The TOS changes don't bother me nearly so much as the handouts to Blink. In that case the 'transgression' is in concrete measurable terms, and the issue can be clarified by the items' ISK value. only refines to 1 trit I laughed when I read that elsewhere on these forums, CCP deciding that a rare and almost priceless ship refines to 1 trit does not actually make the ship any less valuable as lets face it nobody would refine one of these in any case because they are precious and rare etc. Their value is in the ship design and the unique paint job, not the minerals. It's like giving someone the Mona Lisa and saying that it's worthless if you scrape of all of the paint to reveal the canvas so everything is ok lol.
Haha yes, priceless. Its not like CCP has and will continue to give them out like candy. Everyone investing in them is just throwing away their ISK. It-¦s not even a collectors item, because it will only go down in value. Its a virtual pad on the back and you want one too, thats why you-¦re angry. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
White Mountain Coalition
431
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Posted - 2013.10.06 23:46:00 -
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You've misunderstood my post, I am not angry, just pointing out the flaw in ccp's logic. The integrity of the sandbox must be preserved at all costs because its a player made environment. Interference from without cheapens us all.
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Sabriz Adoudel
Compulsory Euthanasia
912
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Posted - 2013.10.06 23:52:00 -
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Cannot agree more.
If CCP cross the collusion with players line in the market, are they also doing the same in alliance tournaments? In fleet battles? My gut says 'probably not' but I'm less sure than I was. Especially with the secrecy.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
Say NO to GM-player collusion - Boycott SOMER Blink |
Pius Rova
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.10.07 00:44:00 -
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You guys should be nice or CCP will only give us chunks of carbon for Yule this year. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4727
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Posted - 2013.10.07 01:08:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Cannot agree more.
If CCP cross the collusion with players line in the market, are they also doing the same in alliance tournaments? In fleet battles? My gut says 'probably not' but I'm less sure than I was. Especially with the secrecy.
q9pp
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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