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Sventek
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Posted - 2006.01.26 18:22:00 -
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I realize the Hulk is more suited for low sec space, it has some better resistances, cargo hold and obviously is preferred over the Covetor. But has anyone crunched the numbers comparing the mining output of both? What (if any) benefit is there between a Hulk and a Covetor? I am looking for some number that say the hulk can mine X amount of more minerals per hour than the Covetor. At this point in the game is it justifiable to purchase a Hulk? Will the benefit offset the cost?
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Minodus
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Posted - 2006.01.26 18:23:00 -
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Hulk has 3% per laser per exhumer lvl more. So potentially 15% more. The speed increase is an advantage but if you plan on actively jet can mining anyway - its not worth it.
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mamolian
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Posted - 2006.01.26 18:26:00 -
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If you can afford to spend 300 mill on a hulk.. spend it.
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Sventek
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Posted - 2006.01.26 18:39:00 -
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Could someone please crunch the numbers between the two with the assumption exhumers is @ lvl 3 and another assuming exhumers is @ lvl 5? Thank you in advance.
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Basalt
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Posted - 2006.01.26 18:52:00 -
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No offense man but you sound like my boss except you forgot to add the "Mmmmkay" at the end. Wouldn't happen to be middle management in real life would you?
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Sventek
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Posted - 2006.01.26 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Sventek on 26/01/2006 19:05:28
yeah... ummm... I'm going to have to ask you to quit jacking my thread, yeah... that'd be great.
I am just looking for the numbers.
Oh and "I wouldn't say I've been 'missing' work Bob"
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2006.01.26 20:04:00 -
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You have a calculator.
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2006.01.26 20:08:00 -
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However, being the lucky person you are I am bored, so I will do it give me a few mins.
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2006.01.26 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Hamatitio on 26/01/2006 20:32:35
Edited by: Hamatitio on 26/01/2006 20:27:47
Skills: Mining 5, Astro 5, Mining Barge 5.
Covetor: Alt can't use those mining mods yet, so we will have to wait for those.
3x Strip Miner II's
3x Arkanor Mining crystal II's
some crap in mids
some crap in lows.
Totals:
3396 m3 / cycle / ship
1132.0 m3 / cycle / laser
377 m3 / minute / laser
1132.0 m3 / minute / ship (funny how that works out huh... /3 * 3 = 1!)
Hulk: Same fittings.
Lvl 3 Exhumer: 1233.91 / cycle / laser (and per minute/ship) 3701.73 / cycle / ship
Lvl 5 Exhumer: 1301.84 / cycle / laser (and per minute/ship) 3905.52 / cycle / ship
At level 5 Exhumer a hulk is bringing in ~509m3 / cycle more than a covetor.
This equates to ~31 crokite/bistot/arkanor / cycle. 636 more / hour. Which, using some old numbers is approximately 7.2 mil more per hour (assuming [crokite] 630 zyd per refine and selling at 4500... I havent mined in a LONG time...) Which, for a 300 mil isk ship, is 41.6 hours to make up that amount of money.
Not worth it unless you are a hardcore miner imo.
Rawr?
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Sventek
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Posted - 2006.01.26 20:33:00 -
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Thank you, thats exactly what I was looking for.
I would like to think of myself as a hardcore miner, by your calculations a Hulk would pay for itself in less than a month :D Thanks again.
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2006.01.26 20:34:00 -
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Assuming you dont lose it 
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.01.26 20:39:00 -
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It's a good thing there are such skilled miners as Hama around to help educate the next generation of uber miners. 
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dazedandconfused
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Posted - 2006.01.26 20:49:00 -
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Mining bites
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Oppenheimerr
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Posted - 2006.01.26 21:03:00 -
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Screw the numbers, the best part is that you can activate 3 modulated strip miner II's at the same time :P So worth it.
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Astasia Orian
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Posted - 2006.01.26 21:26:00 -
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What Oppenheimerr said. It's worth 300m for that alone.
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Donis Ardis
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Posted - 2006.01.26 21:28:00 -
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Dont forget that you have the CPU so you can also fit two mining laser upgrades. Giving a 10.25% yield increase, and combine that with the gang skills(10% yield bonus at lvl5) , and implants (if you were mad enough to buy them)
All add up to making the Hulk one insane mining ship.
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Primus Oberon
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Posted - 2006.01.26 21:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Donis Ardis
Dont forget that you have the CPU so you can also fit two mining laser upgrades. Giving a 10.25% yield increase, and combine that with the gang skills(10% yield bonus at lvl5) , and implants (if you were mad enough to buy them)
All add up to making the Hulk one insane mining ship.
Do the mining laser upgrades work with modulated strip miner II's ? I've tried them and there wasn't any noticible difference in yield  Are they bugged or are they only for use with regular mining lasers?
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Donis Ardis
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Posted - 2006.01.26 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Donis Ardis on 26/01/2006 23:26:39
Hell yea it works...
Linkage
Strip Miner II, Pyro II Crystal
Stats from Left to Right:
No Mining Laser upgrade, 1 x Mining Laser upgrade, 2 x Mining laser upgrades. Combined give 10.25% bonus yeild.
Take that to 1496.43 Units/Cycle with gang Mining Foreman lvl5
Edit: Exhumers Lvl3
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Sventek
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Posted - 2006.01.27 17:10:00 -
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Thank you for the responses, another short question.
How are you calculating the outputs? I cant seem to figure the equation out?
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Mudkest
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Posted - 2006.01.27 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Primus Oberon
Do the mining laser upgrades work with modulated strip miner II's ? I've tried them and there wasn't any noticible difference in yield Are they bugged or are they only for use with regular mining lasers?
yup, with t2 crystals you'll pull 1188M3 instead of 1133 with a covetor and 1 upgrade
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Fred 104
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Posted - 2006.01.27 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Oppenheimerr
Screw the numbers, the best part is that you can activate 3 modulated strip miner II's at the same time :P So worth it.
The only way that would be worth it is if you could mine the ore out of other player's hulls. 
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Chaimera
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Posted - 2006.01.27 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Oppenheimerr
Screw the numbers, the best part is that you can activate 3 modulated strip miner II's at the same time :P So worth it.
Originally by: Astasia Orian
What Oppenheimerr said. It's worth 300m for that alone.
OMG what a waste. If you want to run Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner IIs get a Skiff!
It will eat your hulk alive when it comes to mining Mercoxit.
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2006.01.27 22:15:00 -
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Well.
(Mining Amount base unfitted) x (1.25 mining skill) x (1.25 astrog. skill) x (1.15 mining barge skill)
The 1.XX skill pertains to the skill level, ie mining 1 is a 5% bonus so you multiply it as 1.05, level 2 is 10% bonus, so its multiplied at 1.10 etc.
Tech 1 strip miners have higher initial mining base, yet the crystals in t2 miners allow for a 1.65/1.75 depending on tech level multiplier.
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