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Na Und
Galactronics
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Posted - 2013.10.12 13:33:00 -
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This thread is gay. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
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Posted - 2013.10.12 13:39:00 -
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No Means No wrote: Yes you can... The law only hits when you phisically engage in an aggressive manner towards someone, even a small touching could be taken as such, but not words directly spoken to one another. Unless you continuously keep doing, which is not the case of a one time "fags" event obviously.
No matter what country you live in, your right to say absolutely anything is not protected by law
In some countries, publicly saying various things is punishable under the terms of the law "Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.10.12 13:41:00 -
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society is not run on logic |
SKINE DMZ
Stay Frosty.
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:14:00 -
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Jessi Burns wrote: So yes, words are considered assault. .
Actually they're not. I disagree |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:15:00 -
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No Means No wrote:If they beat me up i call the cops and they will end up i jail.
while I just go GǪin front of a judge and get slapped with hefty fines. In fact, it's not entirely unlikely that they'll get a lower sentencing than you do.
Only in the sense that you can kill anyone you want. But from a legal perspective, no, you can't. Hate speech and abuse is pretty much universally excluded from free speech (if such a thing is even legally provided), and for good reason. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:26:00 -
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Jessi Burns wrote:No Means No wrote:
Yes you can... The law only hits when you phisically engage in an aggressive manner towards someone, even a small touching could be taken as such, but not words directly spoken to one another. Unless you continuously keep doing, which is not the case of a one time "fags" event obviously.
FYI assault is the feeling of endangerment. Battery is physical engagement. So yes, words are considered assault. Your feeble attempts at intellegence are humoring. You probably should stop while you're behind.
Assault is only if you put them in immediate fear. The sort of stuff on eve would prob come under a public order offense, like how people get arrested for stuff they post on twitter against celebrities. I think the question is, once plod sees that your eve account doesn't have your real name on top of it to make an easy arrest, are they gonna bother requesting account details and stuff from iceland. Doubt it. |
destiny2
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:31:00 -
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eve has a nice feature, called the Block button |
Omar Alharazaad
ZomCom
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:34:00 -
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No Means No wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:No Means No wrote:
I can say whatever the **** i want to someone..
No, you can't Yes you can... The law only hits when you phisically engage in an aggressive manner towards someone, even a small touching could be taken as such, but not words directly spoken to one another. Unless you continuously keep doing, which is not the case of a one time "fags" event obviously.
Dunno what country you're from, but here in the US there are two notions you should keep in mind. The first is "Verbal Assault", yes, it's real. and yes, they can arrest you for it. The second is the concept of "Aggravated Assault", as in you provoked them into beating the snot out of you. Lighten the hell up, but at the same time don't be a douchetard. Seriously. |
Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:35:00 -
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People using derogatory terms and slang on EVE ? Nooooooooooo... say it isn't so.
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Arduemont
12 pound opinion
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:38:00 -
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Jessi Burns wrote: I don't condone homosexuality or the lifestyle associated with it.
I don't condone prejudice homophobic ignorant hick cunts or the lifestyle associated with them. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:39:00 -
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Looks like OP is butthurt, homophobic and a hater, and fails to comprehend the difference between homophobic slurs and greetings between manly men who are comfortable with their sexuality. I say hater is why would you want to use such terms if you didn't hate homosexuality? No point to it, other than being an infantile doo doo head. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |
Seraph Essael
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:43:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:No Means No wrote:
I can say whatever the **** i want to someone..
No, you can't
Exactly this ^
Tell you what, go find a police officer and spout profanities and call him all the names under the sun... See how long it takes for you to get cuffed and thrown into the back of a squad car...
Idiot... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Defalcator
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:43:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:...The second is the concept of "Aggravated Assault", as in you provoked them into beating the snot out of you... You should probably go look up "aggravated assault" because it doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
(I'm not saying that some mouthy people don't deserve a little punishment.)
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Omar Alharazaad
ZomCom
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:44:00 -
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Willdo. better to stand corrected than to continue under bad information. |
Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:45:00 -
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No Means No wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:No Means No wrote:
I can say whatever the **** i want to someone..
No, you can't Yes you can... The law only hits when you phisically engage in an aggressive manner towards someone, even a small touching could be taken as such, but not words directly spoken to one another. Unless you continuously keep doing, which is not the case of a one time "fags" event obviously.
Could you please verify that theory by finding an annoyed cop and going through a list of personal insults directed against him? I think that might give you some perspective on when and how the law "hits" |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.10.12 14:46:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:No Means No wrote: Im just trying to make a point here on how stupid it is thia idea that calling other people fags is an offenssive term, when clearly it is not.. Or else there would be room for lots of other words to be considered offensive.
Here is a test to see if the word is offensive. Got out to your local town center and walk up to the first group of males you see. Call them all fags and by their reaction you will find if the term is offensive.
if you just walk up to a group of local males where i live and say "fags" and make it sound like a question you're likely to get an answer along the lines of "sorry, i don't smoke" rather than "no, i'm not a homosexual" Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
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Posted - 2013.10.12 15:02:00 -
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It's ok to report anything that bothers you. The GMs love being flooded by nonsense. They call it job security. |
Winchester Steele
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Posted - 2013.10.12 15:14:00 -
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Can I have your stuff? ... Oh wait, is this not one of those threads? ... |
T'Laar Bok
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Posted - 2013.10.12 15:28:00 -
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Channel GLBTA
Amphetimines are your friend.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/T'Laar_Bok |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.10.12 15:28:00 -
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No Means No wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:No Means No wrote: Im just trying to make a point here on how stupid it is thia idea that calling other people fags is an offenssive term, when clearly it is not.. Or else there would be room for lots of other words to be considered offensive.
Here is a test to see if the word is offensive. Got out to your local town center and walk up to the first group of males you see. Call them all fags and by their reaction you will find if the term is offensive. If they beat me up i call the cops and they will end up i jail. while I just go and finish my drink. You just made your point, i can call ppl fags, its not against the law. And again is it the word or the meaning? If its the word then we need a list of prohibited words. If it the meaning then whos in here to judge it? A random gm that cant even sight when someone is trolling? Lmk..
Actually you are wrong.
You can be arrested in the UK for calling people names which can be deemed homophobic.
This can can come under the The Public Order Act.
The Public Order Act makes certain things an offense such as harassment and causing hatred and unrest which can lead to violence etc.
I also believe the following acts also cover this.
Crime and Disorder Act 98 Public Order Act 86 Protection from Harrassment Act 97
So yes, if you go up to a group of people and call them names which are deemed to be homophobic you can be arrested. |
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Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
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Posted - 2013.10.12 15:33:00 -
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You got the first thread locked by saying this:
No Means No wrote:fuk i swear i think im playing with 13 year olds
wtf is this sht we on 2013 u fukin idiot fuks ccp
fuk off everyone that thinks this is offensive, go hide under your fukin rock and fuk yourself in the asses motherfukers
Which caused a Dev to tell you this:
CCP Eterne wrote:I am locking this thread. Homophobic insults are always against our rules. This includes on the forums.
So you started your own thread about your dreams of using homophobic hate slurs openly in Eve here, which also gets locked here:
ISD Flidais Asagiri wrote:Thread is being locked for trolling and discussing moderation, both of which are against forum rules. Topics should be EVE related.
I have two messages for this troll. The first is that something's fundamentally wrong with someone who screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeams for the use of homophobic hate speech in open chat, and the second is that No Means No. Go play WoW with the rest of the juveniles who think screaming homophobic hate insults in open chat is too cute by half. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.10.12 15:48:00 -
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Amhra Rho wrote:You got the first thread locked by saying this: No Means No wrote:fuk i swear i think im playing with 13 year olds
wtf is this sht we on 2013 u fukin idiot fuks ccp
fuk off everyone that thinks this is offensive, go hide under your fukin rock and fuk yourself in the asses motherfukers Which caused a Dev to tell you this: CCP Eterne wrote:I am locking this thread. Homophobic insults are always against our rules. This includes on the forums. So you started your own thread about your dreams of using homophobic hate slurs openly in Eve here, which also gets locked here: ISD Flidais Asagiri wrote:Thread is being locked for trolling and discussing moderation, both of which are against forum rules. Topics should be EVE related. I have two messages for this troll. The first is that something's fundamentally wrong with someone who screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeams for the use of homophobic hate speech in open chat, and the second is that No Means No. Go play WoW with the rest of the juveniles who think screaming homophobic hate insults in open chat is too cute by half.
Wow.. this person has some real issues. |
No Means No
University of Caille Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.10.12 16:08:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:No Means No wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:No Means No wrote: Im just trying to make a point here on how stupid it is thia idea that calling other people fags is an offenssive term, when clearly it is not.. Or else there would be room for lots of other words to be considered offensive.
Here is a test to see if the word is offensive. Got out to your local town center and walk up to the first group of males you see. Call them all fags and by their reaction you will find if the term is offensive. If they beat me up i call the cops and they will end up i jail. while I just go and finish my drink. You just made your point, i can call ppl fags, its not against the law. And again is it the word or the meaning? If its the word then we need a list of prohibited words. If it the meaning then whos in here to judge it? A random gm that cant even sight when someone is trolling? Lmk.. Actually you are wrong. You can be arrested in the UK for calling people names which can be deemed homophobic. This can can come under the The Public Order Act. The Public Order Act makes certain things an offense such as harassment and causing hatred and unrest which can lead to violence etc. I also believe the following acts also cover this. Crime and Disorder Act 98 Public Order Act 86 Protection from Harrassment Act 97 So yes, if you go up to a group of people and call them names which are deemed to be homophobic you can be arrested.
This is the only post relevant to the thread, the rest of you are talking about points of view, this is not a point of view, its white OR black.
So yea, where is the list with all those said homophobic deemed terms as you said??
Wheres that list?
Cause if its the word that is bad, then CCP needs to put out a list of words that are prohibited.
PS: i was never banned or warned or anything, i just posted in someone elses thread and thought this is completely stupid and incoherent the way it is atm. So we better bring it down to a clear and concise term where everyone understands and knows what can and cany be said.
So all of you drama queens and fat losers creating stories oyt of nothing, you can see the type of person you are. Go kill yourselves. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2013.10.12 16:12:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote: Wow.. this person has some real issues.
The least of which is being childish, a F.ag(got) where I live is a cigarette, a meatball in gravy or a bundle of sticks, and a bigot for using it as a sexual slur.
The word itself isn't the problem, it's the context in which it's used. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.10.12 16:16:00 -
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No Means No wrote:
This is the only post relevant to the thread, the rest of you are talking about points of view, this is not a point of view, its white OR black.
So yea, where is the list with all those said homophobic deemed terms as you said??
Wheres that list?
Cause if its the word that is bad, then CCP needs to put out a list of words that are prohibited.
PS: i was never banned or warned or anything, i just posted in someone elses thread and thought this is completely stupid and incoherent the way it is atm. So we better bring it down to a clear and concise term where everyone understands and knows what can and cany be said.
So all of you drama queens and fat losers creating stories oyt of nothing, you can see the type of person you are. Go kill yourselves.
There is no list and there will never be a list.
The speed of which modern language changes, the speed of which normal words can be adapted to mean to something other then its original meaning makes making a list nearly impossible.
Also each situation has to be judged in its own context.
Even using a word such as ni**er is not wrong as it is dependent on the context it is used in. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
659
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Posted - 2013.10.12 16:16:00 -
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No Means No wrote: So all of you drama queens and fat losers creating stories oyt of nothing, you can see the type of person you are. Go kill yourselves.
This is also prohibited by the EULA
And well done for ENTIRELY missing the point of all of the posts you quoted
*golf clap* "Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
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Posted - 2013.10.12 16:17:00 -
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No Means No wrote:PS: i was never banned or warned or anything . . . @No Means No: You really think we should all kill ourselves? Really? @ The rest of the community: Take a cue from this. It only takes a second to report horrendous reprobates like this. There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance. |
No Means No
University of Caille Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.10.12 16:19:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Prince Kobol wrote: Wow.. this person has some real issues.
The least of which is being childish, a F.ag(got) where I live is a cigarette, a meatball in gravy or a bundle of sticks, and a bigot for using it as a sexual slur.
Even if it means what we all know it means, i dont get offended when someone calls me that. Along with me theres a lot more people that dont get offended (specially ina video game). In fact only a small part cares.
So WHY is it a bannable offense?
Because just like i said, theres a lot other terms that i could find offensive myself, why arent all these people that use terms like "man" and "bro" towards me banned yet?
See i dont see the difference between the two points of view, UNLESS there is a list of words ccp doesnt want us to use, and thats what im trying to find out.
Cause if not then why "fags" is a bannable offense and "man" is not??
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No Means No
University of Caille Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.10.12 16:21:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:No Means No wrote: So all of you drama queens and fat losers creating stories oyt of nothing, you can see the type of person you are. Go kill yourselves.
This is also prohibited by the EULA And well done for ENTIRELY missing the point of all of the posts you quoted *golf clap*
I didnt misa any point, you missed my point first. And dont worry trying to show off, i know exactly how much of a loser you feel inside yourself. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16979
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Posted - 2013.10.12 16:22:00 -
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No Means No wrote:This is the only post relevant to the thread Incorrect. Just because you dislike the facts you're being told doesn't mean they're irrelevant.
Quote:So yea, where is the list with all those said homophobic deemed terms as you said?? Wheres that list? In the head of the judge, where it should be.
Quote:Even if it means what we all know it means, i dont get offended when someone calls me that. Along with me theres a lot more people that dont get offended (specially ina video game). In fact only a small part cares.
So WHY is it a bannable offense? Because what you think and feel is irrelevant and not a sound foundation for a EULA.
Quote:Cause if not then why "fags" is a bannable offense and "man" is not?? Because one is a homophobic slur and the other is not. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
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