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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
364
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Posted - 2013.10.13 00:46:00 -
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Greetings, I have a problem, and while I am very self-reliant in most things, I have finally hit the wall on what to do here with my RL situation as it related to IG experience and continued EVE citizenship.
Limited Personal Information: 1. I am a US Veteran, classified a "War Veteran" - due to my service from 1986-1988 R.O.T.C., and then my enlistment from 1989-1997 in which I was involved both in the "Cold War" while in W. Germany, and then in the "Gulf War" in 1991, in both cases I was with the 3rd ID, 2/64th Armored as a M1A1 Tank crewman and then commander in that unit, I the later rotated back to the US and was with the 5033rd Training Battalion while I went back to university, and then had a career in information tech.
2. In 2008, I had already had a few issue with my health, probably service related, I have been fighting an on-going battle with the VA for my "entitlements", but for four years now I have steadily declined in my health - I am not going to get into it, and I would prefer not to talk about it - just letting someone that is reading this understand where I am coming from, there are a lot of similar veterans out there and I am not saying I am anyone special.
3. Due to this I haven't been in full employment for a while, but I am not getting any pensions or any benefits either, I live on an extremely limited income at present, every year is getting worse with the economy as it is, and that my savings when I had it have been used up for living expenses, recently as a kick in the teeth, the congress cut spending on EBT, and that is how this soldier eats daily at present and for the past two years, and I am not the only one, but that is another subject.
4. With all of the above, I have kept EVE as a hobby and interest when pretty much everything else gave way to the above, I can basically read, write, converse, and use a PC, but my other activities are very limited, I should be on disability, but welcome to the realities of being a veteran... I am on a waiting list, pending, etc....
Look at all the Macks in local...impressive...very impressive...I see you have fashioned a new exhumer...much like you father's...your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen. |

Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
364
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Posted - 2013.10.13 00:47:00 -
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How does this relate:
Well to keep my mind active, and as something to give me a long term kind of interest and goal (yep it's just a game, but it's something, my only other real situation is my ESA pet, which is "Max" my cat... pretty much my only RL company, I have a few friends that come by once in a while but, I say I "live very much in my mind" the body has an "expired warranty" at this point.
Anyway, I posted something on EVE about PLEX and being self-sufficient, which is what I have been doing with this character since about 2008 when I got into EVE seriously.
Originally I had one account and funded it with savings I had, which at the time wasn't a big deal, also I had a buddy (since departed) that I used to spend a lot of time online with doing various games, he was a former marine and while we played this and that (Company of Heroes being a favorite back then) we would talk about all things politics and world affairs and such, often time I might make a pizza up and do the coffee thing until late in the mornings - good times then, good company.
After we got into it I did for a brief time have a second account, I tried to find a good way to make ISK to get the game going, and for a time I was doing this and that, the expansions came and went, and EVE grew... unfortunately my income didn't and the above became more of a problem... not many long nights, more like a few hours here and there between resting and trying to deal with the daily tasks.
I finally closed up one account, couldn't keep that going, and I decided on since I couldn't do the sub for two anymore, that one account with a PLEX a month wasn't that hard to do, and when it was about 300ish it was pretty easy to maintain that, and for a long time EVE was an evening pass-time with a online friends that I would "see" online nightly, again good times, while modest where fun... and I enjoyed the game.
But now I am facing a cross-roads here, PLEX is just insanely hard to work with, I have never had this character out of the initial corporation due to the idea that it was just easier to work with, and I didn't want the added drama of a bad corporation experience, my days are hard enough without turning my hobby into more of the same, so I really enjoy the game, and I am not against PvP, but what I don't want to get into is a lot of energy draining stress - I prefer to just do a few things here and there... and have always thought it would be nice to get into a corporation where the average person is about my age (45), and they are geared towards longer-term playing - I don't have a lot in common with very young people; nothing against them, and I do volunteer tutor, but in my down-time I just like persons, especially veterans with similar life-experience to talk with, it's just my thing I guess.
Anyway, I would like to ask anyone reading this, if they would like to help out with a solution to my current problem here, which are pretty modest goals and they should be achievable:
1. PLEX a month by ISK from some form of in game activity, that could be regular and steady and keep the account live.
2. I would like to learn to do trade - I have a good set of skills and this seems like something that would be a good activity in the game.
3. I have a good set of skills, a lot of them I don't really use, and I am sure I am missing out on how to play the game in a lot of ways to make ISK, but haven't really had the experience or contacts to learn them. So I would like to broaden my horizons in EVE and figure out why I may be "doing it wrong" lately with this game - since I don't think it's the games fault, more like maybe I have just missed something in the "change logs" of EVE life here.
So, I guess with that, I would like to see if I can get things going.
I have about 111M ISK, about 3 weeks before a PLEX is due, and I have a few mining ships and good skills, time to learn...
Thanks for reading,
A.V. Look at all the Macks in local...impressive...very impressive...I see you have fashioned a new exhumer...much like you father's...your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen. |

Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
364
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Posted - 2013.10.13 00:47:00 -
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*reserved* Look at all the Macks in local...impressive...very impressive...I see you have fashioned a new exhumer...much like you father's...your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen. |

SpoonRECKLESS
Bumper R Us
67
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Posted - 2013.10.13 00:49:00 -
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TL;DR eating my chicken wings Blue
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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
364
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Posted - 2013.10.13 00:55:00 -
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SpoonRECKLESS wrote:TL;DR eating my chicken wings
"thank you for your service" - oh wait sorry, my mistake - thanks for the pointless post... care to spit on a veteran also?... Look at all the Macks in local...impressive...very impressive...I see you have fashioned a new exhumer...much like you father's...your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen. |

Baggo Hammers
149
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:20:00 -
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Look, Vet or not if you can't afford 14.95 a month to play a video game your priorities are a bit out of kilter...
Begging offers no dignity.
If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |

Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
364
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:24:00 -
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Baggo Hammers wrote:Look, Vet or not if you can't afford 14.95 a month to play a video game your priorities are a bit out of kilter...
Begging offers no dignity.
I am not begging you for anything - you ****-sucking little crap-head... why don't you drop dead. I love how non-serving asses like yourself sit around and throw out smart ass comments like you are somebody... you aren't anything to to the world, and save your crap comments for your fan boi friends until you have proven yourself in the world twink. Kiss my ass for posting that on my thread, and I would love to have you come up to me in RL and say that to my face. Look at all the Macks in local...impressive...very impressive...I see you have fashioned a new exhumer...much like you father's...your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen. |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
366
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:26:00 -
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1. Lose your attitude. 2. Pick any activity other than the least efficient (mining) 3. Pick any area other than the poorest (hi-sec) 4. Find a good corp, five seconds of googling revealed that eve-uni might be a good fit for you. 5. Get off the treadmill. Scraping pennies together in eve is worse pay than begging at the street corner. A good corp can help you with this. edit: 5b. Actually do some research, figure out how much/hour you are making vs. what you could do with other activities. Leverage your isk, use it to make more isk. Remember opportunity cost. If you could easily make 50m/hour just cleaning up space junk behind some of the thousands of missions runners out there, there'd better be a good reason for you to do something less efficient, when isk is your goal. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Michael Turate
The Scope Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:26:00 -
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Assuming you're not begging (which isn't allowed) you could just have posted,
'What Eve activity will give me enough isk to buy a monthly plex?'
The most likely answer you'd get back would be incursions.
If you've been playing since 2008 and you haven't got any isk then you must be doing something badly wrong. |

Asaryuu
Liquid Words
18
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:26:00 -
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Yeah your probably not gonna get any sympathy in GD and not in Eve. But hopefully everything works out for you. Good Luck. |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
366
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:31:00 -
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Michael Turate wrote:Assuming you're not begging (which isn't allowed) you could just have posted,
'What Eve activity will give me enough isk to buy a monthly plex?'
The most likely answer you'd get back would be incursions.
If you've been playing since 2008 and you haven't got any isk then you must be doing something badly wrong.
This guy has it right. There are countless ways to make really good isk, compared to mining change. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1387
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:32:00 -
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Shadowbegging isnt allowed on the forums. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Asaryuu
Liquid Words
18
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:33:00 -
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Don't biomass dude there is always 2morrow.  |

Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
391
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:34:00 -
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Do passive isk making. Trading, some manufacture, planets. On youtube user krill sinqlaison has a good tutorial for station trading. Find a corp that pays plex for doing corp/alliance "chores". Get employed by somerblink to give out prizes. Something like that. There's always....mining. Lol.
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1387
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Posted - 2013.10.13 02:00:00 -
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*serviceman*
I love how spending time in the american armed services then means you are factually correct and morally justified in all situations.
Grow the **** up. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Asaryuu
Liquid Words
18
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Posted - 2013.10.13 02:08:00 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:*reserved*
I would like to point out this to the trolling idiots that can't seem to read and immediately post a rude comment about this being some kind of "begging".
I will excuse such, as you are probably so ignorant, clueless and tactless as to not understand how absolutly rude and insulting posting such is to a service man and I suppose that doesn't matter to the types that post such things. They will never know what it means to do anything for anyone other then themselves... I should have remembered that the internet is where people like this dwell and my mistake for even thinking that anything other that that would ensue.
Yeah dude. This is GD such things as your original post is like blood in the water, But its also all about how you handle it. You failed. F+
Hopefully your IRL situation gets better. Until then fly safe! |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16986
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Posted - 2013.10.13 02:13:00 -
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It's at times like these that I really appreciate eve-sarch.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
92816
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Posted - 2013.10.13 02:40:00 -
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To Eve-Search!
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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1532
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Posted - 2013.10.13 03:53:00 -
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Just back from eve-search. Our wonderful OP told us about his military career and how he was injured and how he now plays eve. He asked for our advice on paying for his sub with PLEX. He mentioned his service again, probably because no one besides him got involved in the several wars that the entire western world has been committing forces to for a decade or so, and he most certainly deserves bowing and scraping. Yours truly and probably several other people in this thread certainly can't have been in, because if we'd had we would have be acting entitled because of it.
Someone was flippant with him and he got super mad.
And now you're caught up on the bits OP deleted.
Any advice for our OP on how to pay for his PLEX? I'd recommend theft and murder, personally.
Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
1479
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Posted - 2013.10.13 03:57:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:Just back from eve-search. Our wonderful OP told us about his military career and how he was injured and how he now plays eve. He asked for our advice on paying for his sub with PLEX. He mentioned his service again, probably because no one besides him got involved in the several wars that the entire western world has been committing forces to for a decade or so, and he most certainly deserves bowing and scraping. Yours truly and probably several other people in this thread certainly can't have been in, because if we'd had we would have be acting entitled because of it.
Someone was flippant with him and he got super mad.
And now you're caught up on the bits OP deleted.
Any advice for our OP on how to pay for his PLEX? I'd recommend theft and murder, personally.
Solid post there Monk. Off to Eve-Search now. Thanks! See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Baggo Hammers
151
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Posted - 2013.10.13 04:33:00 -
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From Aurelius Valentius]*reserved*
"I would like to point out this to the trolling idiots that can't seem to read and immediately post a rude comment about this being some kind of "begging".
I will excuse such, as you are probably so ignorant, clueless and tactless as to not understand how absolutly rude and insulting posting such is to a service man and I suppose that doesn't matter to the types that post such things. They will never know what it means to do anything for anyone other then themselves... I should have remembered that the internet is where people like this dwell and my mistake for even thinking that anything other that that would ensue. "
I am not ignorant enough to go on a forum full of strangers and try to invoke pity because I was a "service man" who is sick. Join the others who feel the need to share that they are "ADHD" or "Dyslexic" or "Autistic" in order to justify the dependent nature of their lives and their subsequent failure.
Have a nice day. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
1479
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Posted - 2013.10.13 04:55:00 -
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I see now why he deleted it. He goes off on some guy throwing homophobic slurs at him, which is not allowed, and tells the guy to "drop dead." He also suggests that other player has done nothing for this world like he has. He also suggests he might beat up the other player if he saw him in real life. You'd think this guy was James Bond or something but now down on his luck.
wow See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

John Tomplin
EVE University Ivy League
10
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Posted - 2013.10.13 05:50:00 -
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I am on disability for Epilepsy, a frontal lobe deficit, and brain damage. totally not kidding, but I like to do great things in EVE and tell people that, in order to change the way they think about people with problems.
Did you think, with all of your years in the military, the reception in EVE when you asked to be rescued, would be like a patriotic homecoming, or the trashtalk of local in Jita? Probably closer to the latter. People aren't grateful in EVE and you knew that. you are being self destructive with your postings.
I am sympathetic and trying to be helpful. I cant solve your game problem. |

John Tomplin
EVE University Ivy League
10
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Posted - 2013.10.13 05:57:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:I see now why he deleted it. He goes off on some guy throwing homophobic slurs at him, which is not allowed, and tells the guy to "drop dead." He also suggests that other player has done nothing for this world like he has. He also suggests he might beat up the other player if he saw him in real life. You'd think this guy was James Bond or something but now down on his luck.
wow
I think this guy was armed forces, I don't care what he calls a post-secondary institution. His behaviour is out of control, but I hope he finds peace.... |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
438
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Posted - 2013.10.13 06:04:00 -
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Quote: Greetings, I have a problem, and while I am very self-reliant in most things, I have finally hit the wall on what to do here with my RL situation as it related to IG experience and continued EVE citizenship.
Limited Personal Information: 1. I am a US Veteran, classified a "War Veteran" - due to my service from 1986-1988 R.O.T.C., and then my enlistment from 1989-1997 in which I was involved both in the "Cold War" while in W. Germany, and then in the "Gulf War" in 1991, in both cases I was with the 3rd ID, 2/64th Armored as a M1A1 Tank crewman and then commander in that unit, I the later rotated back to the US and was with the 5033rd Training Battalion while I went back to university, and then had a career in information tech.
2. In 2008, I had already had a few issue with my health, probably service related, I have been fighting an on-going battle with the VA for my "entitlements", but for four years now I have steadily declined in my health - I am not going to get into it, and I would prefer not to talk about it - just letting someone that is reading this understand where I am coming from, there are a lot of similar veterans out there and I am not saying I am anyone special.
3. Due to this I haven't been in full employment for a while, but I am not getting any pensions or any benefits either, I live on an extremely limited income at present, every year is getting worse with the economy as it is, and that my savings when I had it have been used up for living expenses, recently as a kick in the teeth, the congress cut spending on EBT, and that is how this soldier eats daily at present and for the past two years, and I am not the only one, but that is another subject.
4. With all of the above, I have kept EVE as a hobby and interest when pretty much everything else gave way to the above, I can basically read, write, converse, and use a PC, but my other activities are very limited, I should be on disability, but welcome to the realities of being a veteran... I am on a waiting list, pending, etc....
You ain't getting "entitlements" because you're a bogus scammer. It's actually very common and the scammers always start by talking military mumbo-jumbo they memorized. Go to the local gas station with a gas can and tell everyone your kids are trapped in the car a few miles away and you're broke...it works better.
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John Tomplin
EVE University Ivy League
10
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Posted - 2013.10.13 06:21:00 -
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I find it hard to tell, scammers are usually NOT THAT ANGRY. That's the important part of understanding where he was coming from. People are out there who do have it hard. EVE is a poor venue for seeking compensation though. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
1481
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Posted - 2013.10.13 06:29:00 -
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John Tomplin wrote:I find it hard to tell, scammers are usually NOT THAT ANGRY. That's the important part of understanding where he was coming from. People are out there who do have it hard. EVE is a poor venue for seeking compensation though.
Sometimes they are. For instance, there are countless stories of extremely angry miners on www.minerbumping.com who believe they can mine in New Order territory without paying for a permit. They are trying to scam other miners, the New Order, and the whole community by not paying their fair share. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
169

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Posted - 2013.10.13 10:26:00 -
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Deletion of first posts by Original Poster has rendered the thread "confusing" at best. Topic locked. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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