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Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:39:00 -
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You know I haven't played eve in over 2 years because I been in the hospital fighting colon cancer and going through chemo treatments, I been in remission for the last 4 weeks and decided to join a active corp and play some eve while feeling partially human before having to go back in a couple weeks for more tests in hope it stays gone. . I hope the people that decided it would be fun to Conn me into joining them so the could gank both my characters carriers with all my stuff loaded for moving into a new corp I hope your proud of yourself for taking the opportunity of someone being drugged up with not as much caution as I would normally take due to not really thinking about much except trying to get my mind off of having to go through chemo treatments again for a cheap kill. God help you for that. There is plenty of old eve players that know me and can confirm my being in and out the hospital for the last 4 years. I hope killing my carriers and blowing up my stuff was worth the thrill. To those of you who know and or knew me I wish I could of played just a little longer before ending up back in the hospital but I don't have the drive to fight being conned in a game and deal with reality. To my friends that still do play and remember me I hope you fly safe and maybe if god is on my side I might be back to play again someday. |

Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
216
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:44:00 -
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Dude, sucks you're in a hospital, but can you PLEASE use paragraphs? Wall O' Text is painful to the eyes.
Also, this is EVE, mate. What did you really expect? Sunshine and roses and rainbow unicorn farts? All wonderful, but they're not implementing in EVE.
If you can't handle the Killmails/awoxing, stay the hell out of the sandbox. |

Prince Sanguine
Norse'Storm Battle Group Li3 Federation
55
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:49:00 -
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Maybe play some single player game instead while on random comms? Honestly, I've had a blast playing arma or minecraft with strangers. Can I have your stuff? Contract it over. Hope you feel better. joking aside, ill take some assets and put them to use. U w0t mate?! fight me IRL.! do you even lift?! |

Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:51:00 -
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You know It was people that I have played with before even was in one the corps that was killing my carriers. If it was under any other circumstances It would be part of eve but when you trust people you been around before to get treated this way then fine. Sometimes real life does things that inter fear with ones ability to even be able to play in the sand box. And if I get through all real life horror show I am living then ill be happy to come back for some revenge. Just wanted to let some the people that actually might remember me know why I might not ever be back if that's a problem them maybe you should just find another post to troll. |

Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:54:00 -
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I would rather send everything I have to never never land. If by some chance the man upstairs wants me to play again I will be back if not then that's something I cannot control. When your stuck in a bed for months at a time after a dozen plus surgery's its nice to have some company playing a game I truly love to play. |

Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
216
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:54:00 -
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Trust is the most precious commodity in EVE.
I don't believe in it in-game, and therefore have never have it stolen from me. |

Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 06:59:00 -
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I am not here looking for anyone's opinion. The people that was expecting me back by some off chance might see this and know why I might not be back and its not by my own choice. If you don't understand that then you might want to step outside and enjoy a breath of fresh air while you can because that is something that can be taken from anyone in a blink of an eye. For all the trolls that want to poke fun I am glad to entertain you. God Speed to those that actually understand. |

Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
216
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Posted - 2013.10.15 07:03:00 -
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Dude, I get it. IRL is a harsh, harsh place. Granted, I'm not hospitalized, but I do get that. But EVE is also a cruel and fickle mistress.
My reading of your post is:
"I came to a cruel, violent game and was cruelly violenced."
My response is: What did you really expect? |

Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
983
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Posted - 2013.10.15 07:05:00 -
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Psyrus Baine wrote:There is plenty of old eve players that know me No there aren't. No, really.
Hope you get well soon. Meanwhile contract all your stuff to me. I'm soopa-trustworthy. Honest. |

Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2159
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Posted - 2013.10.15 07:14:00 -
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Psyrus Baine wrote:You know I haven't played eve in over 2 years because I been in the hospital fighting colon cancer and going through chemo treatments, I been in remission for the last 4 weeks and decided to join a active corp and play some eve while feeling partially human before having to go back in a couple weeks for more tests in hope it stays gone. .
I hope the people that decided it would be fun to Conn me into joining them so they could gank both my characters carriers with all my stuff loaded for moving into a new corp I hope your proud of yourself for taking the opportunity of someone being drugged up with not as much caution as I would normally take. Due to not really thinking about much except trying to get my mind off of having to go through chemo treatments again for a cheap kill. God help you for that.
There is plenty of old eve players that know me and can confirm my being in and out the hospital for the last 4 years. I hope killing my carriers and blowing up my stuff was worth the thrill. To those of you who know and or knew me I wish I could of played just a little longer before ending up back in the hospital but I don't have the drive to fight being conned in a game and deal with reality. To my friends that still do play and remember me I hope you fly safe and maybe if god is on my side I might be back to play again someday.
Your situation is very sad, and I am sorry that you are in this position.
This though, is Eve. Where things like this happen. A lot. When I am playing, I do not consider that ever player I interact with with is in a dire personal situation and won't handle what is about to happen well. I assume that the person I am about to interact with is an Eve player, and expects the worse.
If you've played Eve before you should know what this game is like. It is, after all, a game. There is no reason to be upset, aside from real personal reasons that is.
Psyrus Baine wrote:I am not here looking for anyone's opinion.
This is a forum. If you didn't want anyone's opinions you shouldn't have come to the forum.
Hope you feel better. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
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Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 07:21:00 -
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Expect to be treated as a person joining a corp or an alliance would ever be treated. You log in tomorrow and everyone decides for laughs to blow you up that would be OK with you. I bring to the table 140+ million sp characters actually capable of contributing to the game.
EvE is not a single player game. I did not come back to play a single player game or I wouldn't of tried to play eve again. And my point is to tell the ones that was expecting me to play why I wont be. What part of that don't you get. I Explained my circumstances why I wont be unless I make it through my tests and another possible round of chemo.
SO keep trolling I think its funny that you cant see why I posted in the first place. Thank you for the laugh and showing me how you think a game is so more important to say the game is evil and you should never trust anyone ever. I play the game to be with friends and take my mind away from reality, I am glad your reality is peaches and cream. If you wake up someday and have everything in your real life taken from you, your dignity, house, cars all to try and live just a little longer and get a little enjoyment from something that takes your mind off how harsh real life is. Even if the game is harsh as well then I really do feel sorry for you. |

Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 07:31:00 -
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HERE is the point once Again. TO all of those I have flown with in the past and know me now know why I haven't been around playing.
I was going to play again just to hang with some old friends and to those I might have had the pleasure of fighting and playing with again you know why I might not be back around for awhile,
I don't have the strength to grind to replace my stuff again. I cant afford to buy plex cards and sell them either because when your stuck in a bed for months on end its kinda hard to hold a job. Even a masters degree cant help generate income when your throwing up and stuck in a hospital.
To those that cant understand the above then I dont care what you think or post anymore I was not posting for you but to the people that actually remember me. |

Alastair Ormand
Badger Badger Badger Apocalypse Now.
6
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Posted - 2013.10.15 07:37:00 -
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That is **** poor behavior on their part, especially if they knew what you were going through. Always crap to be kicked when your down.
Hang in there man. |

adarma
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2013.10.15 07:46:00 -
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This is a very disturbing message and I am very sorry for your situation. That is unfortunately how twisted, cruel and evil people can be.
I can only wish you well and hope that you would recover from this cancer. It is a very difficult cancer type to suffer from. But there are people who leave it behind.
On the other hand, It would be good to warn others against this corp and these people. Smite Brotherhood it is, aye? |

Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 07:54:00 -
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No Smite is where i was coming from. No need to even go into where i was headed. Thank you to those that get it and I really dont have any comments to those that dont. |

Seetesh
Station Window Lickers
80
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Posted - 2013.10.15 07:56:00 -
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I'm very sorry to hear about your real life problems. It is part of the game to do such a dirty trick and I have done it before. But theirs a line that I wouldn't cross and I don't agree that it was right given that they knew you and most likely knew of your problems. I wouldn't myself be able to go along with such a gank. I hope you recover and bounce back though. |

oOReikaOo Michiko
Brains of Britain
69
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Posted - 2013.10.15 08:28:00 -
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Im disappointed in all of you , especially you OP.
As a friend of someone who'd had cancer and having sat by her bed with her for those miserable months, im appalled.
Shed slap the crap out of you. So what, you got sick and so the whole world has to stop what they are doing and change for you? You can either lay down and take crap OP and whine that life unfairly chose you for cancer and for being ganked, or you can get up and fight like my friend did, beat the cancer, and go on and win at life.
Life isn't going to become easier for you just cause you got it hard. |

Ezrothian
Alpha-Papa
5
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Posted - 2013.10.15 08:53:00 -
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oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:Im disappointed in all of you , especially you OP.
As a friend of someone who'd had cancer and having sat by her bed with her for those miserable months, im appalled.
Shed slap the crap out of you. So what, you got sick and so the whole world has to stop what they are doing and change for you? You can either lay down and take crap OP and whine that life unfairly chose you for cancer and for being ganked, or you can get up and fight like my friend did, beat the cancer, and go on and win at life.
Life isn't going to become easier for you just cause you got it hard.
I think you're being outrageously harsh. OP has been fighting cancer for two years, and he decided to have a rant about a spaceship game. With all he's been through, I say let him. I think it takes more than a bit of courage to keep going through all of that, and it's not good to be kicked while you're down.
Can't imagine what it must be like, hope you're given the all clear soon mate. |

Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1756
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Posted - 2013.10.15 09:14:00 -
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I'm really sorry to hear what happened to you, if you ever need some decent friends to play with - maybe run missions or do some small gang PvP, send me an in game mail. I'm always looking to recruit new friends into my corp, or just looking for new people to play with and I'm very sympathetic to people with cancer as it has had a major impact on my life and I've seen what it can do to those you're close to. Oh god. |

oOReikaOo Michiko
Brains of Britain
70
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Posted - 2013.10.15 09:16:00 -
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Ezrothian wrote:oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:Im disappointed in all of you , especially you OP.
As a friend of someone who'd had cancer and having sat by her bed with her for those miserable months, im appalled.
Shed slap the crap out of you. So what, you got sick and so the whole world has to stop what they are doing and change for you? You can either lay down and take crap OP and whine that life unfairly chose you for cancer and for being ganked, or you can get up and fight like my friend did, beat the cancer, and go on and win at life.
Life isn't going to become easier for you just cause you got it hard. I think you're being outrageously harsh. OP has been fighting cancer for two years, and he decided to have a rant about a spaceship game. With all he's been through, I say let him. I think it takes more than a bit of courage to keep going through all of that, and it's not good to be kicked while you're down. Can't imagine what it must be like, hope you're given the all clear soon mate.
Im not in any way minimizing the experience OP has been and will go through.
However What does him having cancer have anything to do with the motivations of the players, are all of us who now know OP has cancer not allowed to fire upon him? There a line between empathetic and sympathetic, unless your that persons family putting that person above you is going to far. |
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BenDover
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.10.15 09:18:00 -
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If you wanted people who know you in game to be aware of your situation, you would have either edited your in game description with the relevant information or sent a general private eve mail. What this seems to be, on the other hand, is a poorly handled "life has screwed me over, feel sorry for me!" thread, in which you appeal to your own real life circumstances to incite the righteous wrath of EVE players against the malevolent conglomerate of wannabe bastards that blew up your digital pixels.
Stop trying to emotionally blackmail people into feeling sorry for you, or talking them down by appealing to your unique insight on the value of human life and opportunity. Cancer is awful. Your situation is awful. I'm sure you have been in a lot of pain and have had to sacrifice a lot. But this isn't the place for it. |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
548
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Posted - 2013.10.15 09:20:00 -
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The unfortunate fact is that EvE is full of scum. Sorry you had the misfortune of meeting some first hand. My only advice would be to try not to let it get to you, move on and find a better group of friends, and continue to enjoy the game you love.
Can't trust those Northern Coalition scumbags.
All the best with getting better! Post with your main, like a BOSS! |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
1527
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Posted - 2013.10.15 09:21:00 -
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I'm torn on this one. On the one hand I'm sure this stuff happens and it sucks. On the other hand it sounds awfully similar to a 2 year old story on kugutsumen.
Anyway, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and wish you the best
--Ero See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
1311
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Posted - 2013.10.15 09:32:00 -
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Cancer sucks, it REALLY DOES...!!!
But, this IS EVE after all!
Being a long time player, you should know not to trust anyone! Trusting people was your first mistake, and I strongly believe it had nothing to do with IRL situations...
This is EVE, cold, dark, ruthless...why did you expect anything more then that? Support my (possibly dumb) Ideas!! Worm Rebalance!!! |

Dar Saleem
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2013.10.15 09:43:00 -
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Guess hes talking about these 2 kills
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20016476 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20016557
and a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7CCZuSWSyk&feature=youtu.be
Short story, he cynoed outside of docking range and got ganked, he was going on about how he was joining the "alliance"
[05:48:58] Psyrus Baine > STOP im joining the damn corp alliance
[05:50:01] Draben Enforcer > Im joining the fuckin alliance corp
er no you weren't
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1027
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:12:00 -
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A good % of Eve players are borderline sociopaths who justify their actions with "but this is Eve".
sorry to hear about your situation and hope you get better. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |

SpotlessBlade
Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
38
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:13:00 -
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First of all, I don't believe you. I don't need to believe you, and you don't need me to believe you. Second, if you have colon cancer, then those two carriers are the least of your problems. Third, have you ever killed anyone's ship in eve? Did you first check their health status before doing it? If not, you're a horrible hypocrite and a sham. Fourth, you got invited to a corp? what corp? logs? proof? no, just your whiny pathetic loser story about "Oh no people were mean to me and I have bum cancer" Fifth, if you are a big bum cancer fraud as I suspect, then there is a special place for you in hell, or TEST, whichever is worse. |

Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1758
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:26:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:A good % of Eve players are borderline sociopaths who justify their actions with "but this is Eve".
sorry to hear about your situation and hope you get better. Yeah, so many sociopaths in this game, that's why I always try my hardest to make the game as nice as possible for as many people as I can. Doing things to help people out makes me feel good and I like to think I bring some happiness to the people I help too, especially people like OP who are sick and probably need something to cheer them up in life.
Oh god. |

Ra Jackson
the unified Negative Ten.
249
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:43:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:A good % of Eve players are borderline sociopaths who justify their actions with "but this is Eve".
sorry to hear about your situation and hope you get better. Yeah, so many sociopaths in this game, that's why I always try my hardest to make the game as nice as possible for as many people as I can. Doing things to help people out makes me feel good and I like to think I bring some happiness to the people I help too, especially people like OP who are sick and probably need something to cheer them up in life.
If they need cheering up, they should probably not play the most unforgiving MMO out there. btw - the sociopaths are the ones that compare Eve to RL, or bring RL issues into the game. Nobody cares. |

Seetesh
Station Window Lickers
81
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:45:00 -
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I agree their are many sociopaths in this game with a complete lack of empathy with strongly misguided compasses. Sadly the anonymity allows these people to flourish. Most have little to no social life's and can't grasp for a second how normal people act. I wish I were in a position personally ingame right now to help you out. Maybe some other kind person will help you back on your feet. |
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Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
565
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:51:00 -
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I'm sorry to hear about your RL situation but I don't think it should in any way effect the way people are treated in game.
There are many people who suffer real life issues from minor illness to battling terminal illness, all of these people play EVE knowing what it is. Being scammed and killed by others sucks, but it's someone any player no matter their RL state should have to consider when logging in, any kind of special treatment from CCP would go against what the game is built on. That's not to say there wont be players who have a kind heart and will take RL considerations into account, maybe you yourself could form a corporation where the focus is a place for people with problems in their RL can come and break away for a while in EVE.
obligatory can I have you stuff message. Lieutenant Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District |

adarma
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:52:00 -
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Ra Jackson wrote:Riot Girl wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:A good % of Eve players are borderline sociopaths who justify their actions with "but this is Eve".
sorry to hear about your situation and hope you get better. Yeah, so many sociopaths in this game, that's why I always try my hardest to make the game as nice as possible for as many people as I can. Doing things to help people out makes me feel good and I like to think I bring some happiness to the people I help too, especially people like OP who are sick and probably need something to cheer them up in life. If they need cheering up, they should probably not play the most unforgiving MMO out there. btw - the sociopaths are the ones that compare Eve to RL, or bring RL issues into the game. Nobody cares.
You have a point! One other concern however is the possibility that some ruthless, heartless and evil people in the game are not "just" RP''ing. Now... that is scary... |

Kaar
Rionnag Alba The Fourth District
2
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Posted - 2013.10.15 10:59:00 -
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Nobody conned you. You jumped to a cyno that wasnt even part of the corp you were joining, you're an idiot. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1775
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:04:00 -
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Psyrus Baine wrote:You know I haven't played eve in over 2 years because I been in the hospital fighting colon cancer and going through chemo treatments, I been in remission for the last 4 weeks and decided to join a active corp and play some eve while feeling partially human before having to go back in a couple weeks for more tests in hope it stays gone. .
I hope the people that decided it would be fun to Conn me into joining them so they could gank both my characters carriers with all my stuff loaded for moving into a new corp I hope your proud of yourself for taking the opportunity of someone being drugged up with not as much caution as I would normally take. Due to not really thinking about much except trying to get my mind off of having to go through chemo treatments again for a cheap kill. God help you for that.
There is plenty of old eve players that know me and can confirm my being in and out the hospital for the last 4 years. I hope killing my carriers and blowing up my stuff was worth the thrill. To those of you who know and or knew me I wish I could of played just a little longer before ending up back in the hospital but I don't have the drive to fight being conned in a game and deal with reality. To my friends that still do play and remember me I hope you fly safe and maybe if god is on my side I might be back to play again someday.
Why should everybody all of a sudden be expected to know you have this condition? Dude, good work on the guilt trip, but you have no sympathy from me. You knew exactly what kind of game you were getting yourself into when you logged in. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

GreGh Rakrot
Rionnag Alba The Fourth District
16
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:26:00 -
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I guess I should shed some light on this situation since it came this far.
Psyrus Baine was member of Rionnag Alba in 2008-09. Was fairly active but then started playing less and less and eventually quit EVE due to being in hospital all the time receiving cancer treatment. He came back to the game recently and inquired if he could rejoin. I knew him so I told him he can. We talked ingame in R A public channel where Aussie Willy (CEO of Ever Flow and member of NCdot) was present as well. Important to know is we recently left NCdot on good terms after being there for 3 years since the formation of the alliance. We also always had good relationship with Aussie Willy and Ever Flow.
Today Psyrus Baine logged in to move his stuff to low sec and then apply to our corp as agreed. Aussie Willy used the fact that previously with me present we all chatted in very friendly terms and convinced Psyrus that he will sort him a cyno which Psyrus accepted. Aussie Willy of course couldnt have known about Psyrus' medical condition so he cant be condemned for that, but he did abuse our friendship in convincing Psyrus to trust him. Never the less, Psyrus should have known better not to trust random people in public channel but I guess he wasnt in best state of mind due to anticancer drugs and was misguided by the friendly way Aussie Willy and myself chatted and joked in said public channel.
EVE is harsh game and people cant usually know what is happening to other players in RL when they blow up their spaceship pixels, so calling them sociopaths for that is unnecessary. Abusing long term friendship even if its only ingame is another thing but that is partially my fault in allowing Aussie Willy to abuse that in the first place.
Psyrus I wish you good luck with your treatment and recovery. You also shouldnt try to get some sort of recognition on forums as they are universally not trusted and in general not really the best place to vent your feelings. Dont let some imaginary spaceship pixels get you down. After all life is so much more then this hobby we call EVE. |

Magnolya
Mariolas
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:29:00 -
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This is the same reason why when I drink a lot, I dont play EVE. If you are playing the game without being 100% of your gaming abilities, face the consequences of your actions, and dont be a coward hiding behind the "Oh I wont play anymore, I am so sick and dieing".
For the rest, its a harsh sandbox, they **** your spaceships if you dont play it right |

Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
240
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:47:00 -
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Psyrus Baine wrote:I was not posting for you but to the people that actually remember me.
If that is indeed the case (which I very much doubt) then your OP was a failure on another level. There would have been many much better media to contact your old buddies. Their corp forums, in-games channels, direct in-game mails or if you really wanted to do a eve-o forum post then at least you could have chosen the OOPE section.
But no.
You had to choose GD, the second largest cesspool of the whole of eve-o forums.
Fail... just.. fail.
Other than that, good luck with your RL issues. Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Labs Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |

Yuix Grislin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:52:00 -
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Welcome back to EVE. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1777
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Posted - 2013.10.15 11:54:00 -
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GreGh Rakrot wrote:I guess I should shed some light on this situation since it came this far.
Psyrus Baine was member of Rionnag Alba in 2008-09. Was fairly active but then started playing less and less and eventually quit EVE due to being in hospital all the time receiving cancer treatment. He came back to the game recently and inquired if he could rejoin. I knew him so I told him he can. We talked ingame in R A public channel where Aussie Willy (CEO of Ever Flow and member of NCdot) was present as well. Important to know is we recently left NCdot on good terms after being there for 3 years since the formation of the alliance. We also always had good relationship with Aussie Willy and Ever Flow.
Today Psyrus Baine logged in to move his stuff to low sec and then apply to our corp as agreed. Aussie Willy used the fact that previously with me present we all chatted in very friendly terms and convinced Psyrus that he will sort him a cyno which Psyrus accepted. Aussie Willy of course couldnt have known about Psyrus' medical condition so he cant be condemned for that, but he did abuse our friendship in convincing Psyrus to trust him. Never the less, Psyrus should have known better not to trust random people in public channel but I guess he wasnt in best state of mind due to anticancer drugs and was misguided by the friendly way Aussie Willy and myself chatted and joked in said public channel.
EVE is harsh game and people cant usually know what is happening to other players in RL when they blow up their spaceship pixels, so calling them sociopaths for that is unnecessary. Abusing long term friendship even if its only ingame is another thing but that is partially my fault in allowing Aussie Willy to abuse that in the first place.
Psyrus I wish you good luck with your treatment and recovery. You also shouldnt try to get some sort of recognition on forums as they are universally not trusted and in general not really the best place to vent your feelings. Dont let some imaginary spaceship pixels get you down. After all life is so much more then this hobby we call EVE.
Sure, this shines a lot of light on the situation. It reveals the fact that the situation in no way called for a public forum post condemning almost everyone in the game when a PM to the person responsible would have been sufficient. It's easy to call people sociopaths when you're angry that they don't conform to your own standards of morality, but everyone is different, people don't like people that are different to them, and more importantly, we're playing a video game here. There are no sociopaths because you don't know a damn thing about a single player to make that diagnosis, nor do I expect anyone here possesses the necessary qualifications to diagnose sociopathy.
Secondly, as a diagnosed ACTUAL sociopath myself, a comorbid condition that is commonly associated with the developmental disorder autism, I don't appreciate the negative connotations that are associated with the word. Not that there's much I can do about it, but one thing people need to realise is that one is not a bad person just by virtue of being sociopathic. In fact, there are many sociopaths living perfectly normal lives all around us, in real life, on a daily basis. I take no offence being called a sociopath because I am one, I take offence because it's intended as an insult as a result of nothing but anger.
Finally, having cancer is not an excuse for mercy in this game. As I stated above, you know what you're getting yourself into the moment you log in to this game. Every time you undock, you've already signed a contract saying that you agree to lose the ship you have undocked in. It should be the expectation on everyone's mind for the duration of their time in that ship, whether they lose it or not. If he wanted a game to help him take his mind off things, he could have chosen something a little more forgiving.
But at the end of the day, there is absolutely no excuse and no reason to post the way he did in the OP. It makes him the bad guy at the end of the day. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1405
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:02:00 -
[40] - Quote
This was definitely threadworthy. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16998
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:05:00 -
[41] - Quote
Riot Girl wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:A good % of Eve players are borderline sociopaths who justify their actions with "but this is Eve".
sorry to hear about your situation and hope you get better. Yeah, so many sociopaths in this game GǪwho jump to conclusions about other people's intentions and motivations without any real indication or knowledge thereof GÇö in particular they presume malice without evidence; who ridiculously assume that their knowledge and perception is universal, rather than just their own post-facto constructions; and who arbitrarily assign deeply binary morals based on all these baseless assumptions.
So here are a few questions:
1. In what way is the OP's medical condition relevant to what did and/or what should have happened to him? 2. To what degree was hos condition recognised and/or referenced by the attackers? 3. How is the OP's state qualitatively different than if he had just been drunk or hopped up on weed? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Druthlen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:14:00 -
[42] - Quote
Read about 4 posts deep. Skipped the rest. Just wanted to say I am glad to have heard your story. 1st reason: I didnt actually think ppl in eve were that low to betray someone they know. I will be more careful of even my closest ally now. I under stand why POS rights only go to people you know IRL. 2nd reason: May be an ******* but I enjoyed the tears. Can I have your stuff? 3rd reason: Ive been in the hospital. I understand and I hope you pull through.
This post made me wiser, more cautious and made me laugh. Thanks.
Oh BTW you friends are ass hats. But then again I guess so am I. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1406
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:20:00 -
[43] - Quote
Druthlen wrote:1st reason: I didnt actually think ppl in eve were that low to betray someone they know. I will be more careful of even my closest ally now. I under stand why POS rights only go to people you know IRL.
Wow, really?
In all seriousness, it is good you found out this way.
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1759
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:21:00 -
[44] - Quote
Tippia wrote:1. In what way is the OP's medical condition relevant to what did and/or what should have happened to him? 2. To what degree was hos condition recognised and/or referenced by the attackers? 3. How is the OP's state qualitatively different than if he had just been drunk or hopped up on weed? I don't care about those things Tippia. I just want to touch hearts and minds with my honest intentions. Some people just need to be reassured that good people still exist in the world.
Oh god. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1406
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:24:00 -
[45] - Quote
You can touch something else of mine with your honest intentions. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1759
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:27:00 -
[46] - Quote
I'll touch everyone because I feel humility is an important virtue. Oh god. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1406
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:29:00 -
[47] - Quote
Well then you'll soon see why it's so hard for me to stay humble. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

adarma
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:34:00 -
[48] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Riot Girl wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:A good % of Eve players are borderline sociopaths who justify their actions with "but this is Eve".
sorry to hear about your situation and hope you get better. Yeah, so many sociopaths in this game GǪwho jump to conclusions about other people's intentions and motivations without any real indication or knowledge thereof GÇö in particular they presume malice without evidence; who ridiculously assume that their knowledge and perception is universal, rather than just their own post-facto constructions; and who arbitrarily assign deeply binary morals based on all these baseless assumptions. So here are a few questions: 1. In what way is the OP's medical condition relevant to what did and/or what should have happened to him? 2. To what degree was hos condition recognised and/or referenced by the attackers? 3. How is the OP's state qualitatively different than if he had just been drunk or hopped up on weed?
Nice mechanical analysis and cold interrogation. But you are right, it is too much to expect a simple, symphatetic "sorry" these days, even for someone who is dying.
And yes, there are many sociopaths in this game. |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
512
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:34:00 -
[49] - Quote
Unfortunately there are some real life low lifers that play EvE. I think there is a big difference between playing a low life in game which is what I and many other people do, and actually being a low life in game because you're one out of game.
It sounds like your gankers, who you thought were friends and who knew you had being going through a hard time are simply scum out of game, as well as in it.
There seems to be a trend where these people try to beat the last lot of slimeballs in deliberately upping the antagonism for people out of game. When you cross the boundary between harmful behavior in game and deliberately harming people out of game I think that's when CCP should step in and give out warnings and then bans for repeat behaviour.
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Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1759
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:35:00 -
[50] - Quote
Varius Xeral wrote:Well then you'll soon see why it's so hard for me to stay humble. You don't have to worry about that. I'm quite competent at changing a person's outlook on life. Oh god. |
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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
455
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:36:00 -
[51] - Quote
If your situation is as bad as you say then you know how insignificant some fake space ships are. Suck it up and have a laugh about it because things can always be worse.... |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
512
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:43:00 -
[52] - Quote
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:If your situation is as bad as you say then you know how insignificant some fake space ships are. Suck it up and have a laugh about it because things can always be worse.... Sometimes when you have been going through a traumatic experience, and being close to death is certainly one of those times, you desperately want to find something to take your mind of things.
Going back to a game or rereading a book you read when everything was good etc is a good form of self medication, the opposite of alcohol and drugs if you like.
What they did is in my opinion inexcusable, viscous and nasty. If he'd been ganked randomly is one thing but to have people deliberately con you and target you because you're vulnerable given his situation, its downright disturbing. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
905
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:46:00 -
[53] - Quote
Having cancer doesnt make you immune to making bad choices in a videogame. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
512
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:51:00 -
[54] - Quote
KuroVolt wrote:Having cancer doesnt make you immune to making bad choices in a videogame. You'll change your mind if you ever get it |

Bounty Setter
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:56:00 -
[55] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote: but to have people deliberately con you and target you because you're vulnerable given his situation, its downright disturbing. I suggest you go back and read the thread. It has already been stated that the people involved didn't know about his situation.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
512
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Posted - 2013.10.15 12:59:00 -
[56] - Quote
Bounty Setter wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: but to have people deliberately con you and target you because you're vulnerable given his situation, its downright disturbing. I suggest you go back and read the thread. It has already been stated that the people involved didn't know about his situation. Sure. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1779
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:01:00 -
[57] - Quote
Riot Girl wrote:Tippia wrote:1. In what way is the OP's medical condition relevant to what did and/or what should have happened to him? 2. To what degree was hos condition recognised and/or referenced by the attackers? 3. How is the OP's state qualitatively different than if he had just been drunk or hopped up on weed? I don't care about those things Tippia. I just want to touch hearts and minds with my honest intentions. Some people just need to be reassured that good people still exist in the world.
Good deeds in a video game =/= good people in the real world. Seriously, at what point did you acquire your hero complex? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1759
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:06:00 -
[58] - Quote
Are you judging me for showing someone some kindness? Oh god. |

Baaldor
In Igne Morim Easily Excited
114
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:08:00 -
[59] - Quote
WhatGǪ.?
It just makes me laugh to see so many people struggling to justify their GÇ£moral codeGÇ¥ and e-honor through an anonymous medium.
Posting on a forum under an assumed name to garner sympathy and acknowledgement because there is no one at home that will give it.
It just screams listen to me!! I am not worth crap in real life so I need to justify my existence through a video gameGǪ.anonymously.
And these are the same people wailing about sociopaths?
Anyone that has a grain of common sense and some sort of grounded base of reality will recognize the difference between fantasy and reality. However, it seems we have a group of folk that cannot.
GǣI am not crazyGǪeveryone else is?Gǥ
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1779
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:10:00 -
[60] - Quote
Riot Girl wrote:Are you judging me for showing someone some kindness?
I have no doubt that you're going to attempt to 'interpret' anything I say as something that you feel the need to defend. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1759
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:12:00 -
[61] - Quote
I'm sorry I interpreted your comment as a personal attack. Oh god. |

Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
394
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:12:00 -
[62] - Quote
This is why you should keep real life issues out of game.
Seriously, what is supposed to happen? Everyone goes easy on you because you are ill and on medication? Well that will just lead to everyone saying.........."don't awox/gank me I'm on medication" which will lead to........gankers/awoxers ignoring anyone who says it.
Virtual eve friends are not real life friends. Everyone vs everyone remember. |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1407
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:12:00 -
[63] - Quote
CCP should give out special skins for the terminally ill and emotionally deficient so we can treat them differently. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Leigh Akiga
State War Academy Caldari State
236
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:14:00 -
[64] - Quote
Why does this sound so familiar? |

Frying Doom
2598
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:16:00 -
[65] - Quote
All I will say is hope you manage to beat it. Good Luck, get well. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Averzion Fanity
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:44:00 -
[66] - Quote
sooooooo, any proof of this illness even? Or how it's relevant to a bad decision? If you bet your house in crapps and lose, having cancer won't solve things m8. |

Averzion Fanity
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:44:00 -
[67] - Quote
Kuz I'm a radiologist, and I'd love to know this is legit. |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
198
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Posted - 2013.10.15 13:51:00 -
[68] - Quote
Leigh Akiga wrote:Why does this sound so familiar?
yeah , somewhere rings a bell The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation The Cursed Few
107
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:00:00 -
[69] - Quote
Sorry that you have such a horrible decease, but what does that have to do at all with you blindly trusting all your assets to people you don't know? Did you think that people feeling sorry for you in RL would auto translate to EVE Online and broadcast to everyone?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoavH8xbrPE |

Kanako Wakabayashi
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:02:00 -
[70] - Quote
I'm a real girl and feel sorry for you May I have your remaining isk? |
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Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc RECURSIVE ASCENSION
29
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:04:00 -
[71] - Quote
The biggest thing to remember is that those people who go only for killmails will quit playing the instant they start losing. When you recover, OP, I'll give you the ISK to replace and fit the ships needed to make the kids unsub. We don't need COD players on Tranquility. |

Caius Beriat
Blackstar Privateers Disavowed.
5
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:09:00 -
[72] - Quote
3/10 would not read again.
You made a bad decision, lost your carriers and now you're trying to get sympathy isk. |

Mirajane Cromwell
138
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:11:00 -
[73] - Quote
Everyone in Eve makes mistakes at some point - you just got to learn from them and adapt in future. 
To OP, perhaps you could also try out real life game SuperBetter to fight the cancer. |

PhatController
Mum Rider Alliance
43
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:17:00 -
[74] - Quote
Eve is a game, it's not real. Why should anyone play the game differently because your having a hard time. Stop taking stuff personly, it's just a game. |

Djana Libra
DAB The Unthinkables
305
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:18:00 -
[75] - Quote
I completely don't see what you fighting cancer (which must be **** for you, best of luck on getting better) has to do with being blown up in a game. Ganked by a beep beep beep corp aint fun but it has nothing to do with ur illness.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3031
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:20:00 -
[76] - Quote
Oh man do i feel the OPs pain. I really had to pee last week while doing a Forsaken Hub so I tried to "Ninja Bio" . As I was finishing up my bidness, I heard my ships hull alarm go off (I'm armor tanked and was like WTF, seems like i got tackled by some real life pirates!). So I ran because to my computer and stubbed my toe on a door frame. It's all bruised and purple and full of ouch, and no one will kiss it to make it better.
Therefore, as a wounded EVE warrior I demand isk, respect and for ccp to give me back the Dominx that got hot dropped. For the sake of stubbed toes everywhere. |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
198
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:23:00 -
[77] - Quote
Kanako Wakabayashi wrote:I'm a real girl and feel sorry for you May I have your remaining isk?
boobs like that says otherwise  The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
209
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:28:00 -
[78] - Quote
Sadly this sort of backstabbing is exactly the type of action that makes headlines for EvE, game that allows just about anything... This, and massive fleet battles. Former friends may turn out to be your worst enemy and former enemies may turn out to be valuable allies...
Congratulations are in order for being in remission, that's huge man. Im sure you will eventually find good home in EvE somewhere. Theres corporation for anyone out there. Trick is to find it. We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do... |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1330
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:28:00 -
[79] - Quote
Himnos Altar wrote:Dude, I get it. IRL is a harsh, harsh place. Granted, I'm not hospitalized, but I do get that. But EVE is also a cruel and fickle mistress.
No, the game construct Eve is not anything at, in and of itself. It has no feelings, no motives. But what the construct allows is sociopaths to live out fantasies they could not in real life. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3031
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 14:34:00 -
[80] - Quote
The real sickness here a guy attempting to play for sympathy using a serious real life condition. It says some really really bad things about you if you have to use real life tragedy as an excuse for why you played a video game poorly. |
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3069
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:34:00 -
[81] - Quote
Averzion Fanity wrote:sooooooo, any proof of this illness even? Or how it's relevant to a bad decision? If you bet your house in crapps and lose, having cancer won't solve things m8. Kuz I'm a radiologist, and I'd love to know this is legit.
I love when some illiterate posts on a forum claiming to be an member of the medical establishment. Or any other number of professions for that matter.
srsly nub wen u write liek dis no1 take you for reals
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4037
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:51:00 -
[82] - Quote
oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:Im disappointed in all of you , especially you OP.
As a friend of someone who'd had cancer and having sat by her bed with her for those miserable months, im appalled.
Shed slap the crap out of you. So what, you got sick and so the whole world has to stop what they are doing and change for you? You can either lay down and take crap OP and whine that life unfairly chose you for cancer and for being ganked, or you can get up and fight like my friend did, beat the cancer, and go on and win at life.
Life isn't going to become easier for you just cause you got it hard. Saves me time to type... |

Kimsemus
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
77
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:58:00 -
[83] - Quote
Psyrus Baine wrote:You know I haven't played eve in over 2 years because I been in the hospital fighting colon cancer and going through chemo treatments, I been in remission for the last 4 weeks and decided to join a active corp and play some eve while feeling partially human before having to go back in a couple weeks for more tests in hope it stays gone. .
I hope the people that decided it would be fun to Conn me into joining them so they could gank both my characters carriers with all my stuff loaded for moving into a new corp I hope your proud of yourself for taking the opportunity of someone being drugged up with not as much caution as I would normally take. Due to not really thinking about much except trying to get my mind off of having to go through chemo treatments again for a cheap kill. God help you for that.
There is plenty of old eve players that know me and can confirm my being in and out the hospital for the last 4 years. I hope killing my carriers and blowing up my stuff was worth the thrill. To those of you who know and or knew me I wish I could of played just a little longer before ending up back in the hospital but I don't have the drive to fight being conned in a game and deal with reality. To my friends that still do play and remember me I hope you fly safe and maybe if god is on my side I might be back to play again someday.
Hello everyone -- I am the FC that organized this drop on him, with invaluable help from one of my corpmates that will remain anon.
OP -- I don't regret killing you. At all.
I don't regret organizing your cynos, I don't regret organizing the pilots that hot dropped you, I don't regret calling your archon then your thanatos then popping your wrecks.
I don't regret it because it's not personal, it's just business.
When you were talking in random channels asking for cynos from people you didn't know, I knew you had to pop. When we lit your cyno in the wrong system, it Asa instead of Hasateem you jumped anyway, without questioning it. When you jumped your Archon in a full 30 seconds before your Thanatos into 15 hostile carriers who IMMEDIATELY tackled and began killing you, you jumped your Thanatos in anyway.
None of us lied to you, cheated you, or did anything uncouth. You simply asked for a cyno, we gave you one. You just got more than you planned.
IF you are sick IRL, I hope you get better, make a full recovery, and live life to the fullest. IF you are sick then we did you a favor -- get off EVE, get out from the front of the PC, spend time with loved ones, or out in the sun, and all that.
IF you aren't actually sick -- shame on you. I really don't think you are. I don't want to come off as rude, but I actually think you were just careless and lazy. If you want to try and sit on the forums and take the **** out of me for killing you, feel free. But I didn't kill you, I didn't kill a guy with cancer, I didn't kick your dog or break into your kitchen and eat the chocolate out of your Neapolitan ice cream. I killed your carriers, on your toon, in EVE. Remember that.
But either way I don't feel one ounce of guilt over what I did, and I take full responsibility for it. As I said before. It's just business man.
o7 |

Baaldor
In Igne Morim Easily Excited
114
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Posted - 2013.10.15 14:58:00 -
[84] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Himnos Altar wrote:Dude, I get it. IRL is a harsh, harsh place. Granted, I'm not hospitalized, but I do get that. But EVE is also a cruel and fickle mistress.
No, the game construct Eve is not anything at, in and of itself. It has no feelings, no motives. But what the construct allows is sociopaths to live out fantasies they could not in real life.
So what do you call the people using an anonymous media to justify their own self worth by bleating their e-honor moral code?
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Tetsuo Tsukaya
Pixel Navigators
169
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:00:00 -
[85] - Quote
Psyrus Baine wrote:You know I haven't played eve in over 2 years because I been in the hospital fighting colon cancer and going through chemo treatments, I been in remission for the last 4 weeks and decided to join a active corp and play some eve while feeling partially human before having to go back in a couple weeks for more tests in hope it stays gone. .
I hope the people that decided it would be fun to Conn me into joining them so they could gank both my characters carriers with all my stuff loaded for moving into a new corp I hope your proud of yourself for taking the opportunity of someone being drugged up with not as much caution as I would normally take. Due to not really thinking about much except trying to get my mind off of having to go through chemo treatments again for a cheap kill. God help you for that.
There is plenty of old eve players that know me and can confirm my being in and out the hospital for the last 4 years. I hope killing my carriers and blowing up my stuff was worth the thrill. To those of you who know and or knew me I wish I could of played just a little longer before ending up back in the hospital but I don't have the drive to fight being conned in a game and deal with reality. To my friends that still do play and remember me I hope you fly safe and maybe if god is on my side I might be back to play again someday.
Jumping in on this late, but you've gotta realize that when people awox you, they awox Psyrus Baine the eve character, not you the probably nice guy struggling with a terrible illness. Sorry for your real life troubles but don't take the EVE stuff personally, get back on that horse it's just part of the game.
Best of luck with your cancer battle, stay strong |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4037
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:15:00 -
[86] - Quote
Baaldor wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Himnos Altar wrote:Dude, I get it. IRL is a harsh, harsh place. Granted, I'm not hospitalized, but I do get that. But EVE is also a cruel and fickle mistress.
No, the game construct Eve is not anything at, in and of itself. It has no feelings, no motives. But what the construct allows is sociopaths to live out fantasies they could not in real life. So what do you call the people using an anonymous media to justify their own self worth by bleating their e-honor moral code? If i understood this correctly...
I'd call them carebears. |

Batelle
RisingSuns
190
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:32:00 -
[87] - Quote
I'm not seeing the "real life ramifications" of blowing up your pixel spaceships. Its not like you can't play eve without your thanatos or something. Fighting is Magic |

Javon Bars
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
13
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:37:00 -
[88] - Quote
Can I have your stuff? |

Javon Bars
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
13
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:48:00 -
[89] - Quote
Javon Bars wrote:Can I have your stuff? pls reply this is v. important |

Maximilian Akora
It's just business.
63
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:50:00 -
[90] - Quote
Why would OP's RL issues and situation affect anything in game? You don't play yourself in a game, you play your character and as such I doubt people will give a fck about what RL excuse, whine or reasoning one would come up with to explain why people shouldn't treat you badly in EVE.
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Kimsemus
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
82
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Posted - 2013.10.15 15:55:00 -
[91] - Quote
Maximilian Akora wrote:Why would OP's RL issues and situation affect anything in game? You don't play yourself in a game, you play your character and as such I doubt people will give a fck about what RL excuse, whine or reasoning one would come up with to explain why people shouldn't treat you badly in EVE.
I posted about that earlier on Page 5. I truly don't. We didn't kill him, we killed his toons.
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NFain
Fain Industries
24
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:03:00 -
[92] - Quote
*Sigh* I look at this thread and read each and every comment and I'm sickened
3-4 years ago this wouldn't be the case, ive played this game for 9+ years and I've seen the community take a turn for the worst. All everybody does is beat down a guy who just wanted too play his internet spaceships. Like seriously who are you guys to take that away from him.
I sent you a mail in game man, I feel your pain. |

Baaldor
In Igne Morim Easily Excited
115
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:06:00 -
[93] - Quote
NFain wrote:*Sigh* I look at this thread and read each and every comment and I'm sickened
3-4 years ago this wouldn't be the case, ive played this game for 9+ years and I've seen the community take a turn for the worst. All everybody does is beat down a guy who just wanted too play his internet spaceships. Like seriously who are you guys to take that away from him.
I sent you a mail in game man, I feel your pain.
What are you smoking, the tenner has actually toned down compared to what is was like back then.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3522
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:07:00 -
[94] - Quote
You'd think the luring of people out to corps just to gank them for the KM and/or take their stuff would be so old hat by now everybody would be aware of it.
ALWAYS assume that's the goal.
Oh well.
On the upside, if this stopped being Asshats Online, the servers could not handle the load.
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ArmyOfMe
0mega. Phobia.
182
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:09:00 -
[95] - Quote
Huh, strange to see the smite brotherhood corp show up again, its been a very long time since ive seen old members of that corp. |

Kimsemus
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
83
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:10:00 -
[96] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
You'd think the luring of people out to corps just to gank them for the KM and/or take their stuff would be so old hat by now everybody would be aware of it.
ALWAYS assume that's the goal.
Oh well.
On the upside, if this stopped being Asshats Online, the servers could not handle the load.
How did we lure him out of corp to gank him? Do you have any grasp of what actually happened?
He had been out of game for some great length of time, and wasn't even confident as to what alliance he was speaking to when asking for a cyno. He had already joined another corp a long time ago, as you can see, so was no ally of ours.
We didn't even do anything questionable, we let him talk and ask for cynos and bridges and simply went along with it without mentioning whom we were either way.
We are technically correct, which is the best kind of correct. |

Raxlaa
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:14:00 -
[97] - Quote
Perhaps we can make it so if you do suffer from particular hardships in real life at the oment, you could apply for some kind of 'bumper sticker' or 'L' plates or ismilar to put on your ships?
Then others would know that this player is having a hard time in real life, and could avoid ganking / stealing / scamming their stuff and laughing?
Though thats a bit impractical, and I daresay would have the exact opposite effect.
So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.
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Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
371
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:15:00 -
[98] - Quote
what's up with these stealth begging threads? Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Chefraykwon
Frontier Explorer's League Nulli Secunda
1
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:17:00 -
[99] - Quote
As a man from ccp once so greatly quoted (something along the lines)....."this is eve online where its not a lalala fluffy play land that's what hello kitty online is for" |

Joan Greywind
No Swag Initiative
170
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:28:00 -
[100] - Quote
having an illness / on drugs is not an excuse for being stupid in EVE, simple as that.
HTFU |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3034
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:33:00 -
[101] - Quote
Raxlaa wrote:
So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.
Utter nonsense. What you ask for requires not only a sense of personal responsibility, but also actual self-awareness. How dare you expect people to play a video game like they have two brain cells to rub together.
Also, sorry for exploding any sarcasm meters with the above .
More seriously, there are a lot of EVE players like the OP. Player who don't quite grasp the fact that EVE is an "emotional free for all" type game and thus not the best choice of past times for people who are overly sensitive (or who believe in some kind of false "e-honor").
Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping). |

Praetor Meles
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
148
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:36:00 -
[102] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping).
This. So much this.
Also - cool name.
[insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*
* delete as required to make your point |

Molica Iwaira
Perkone Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:55:00 -
[103] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Raxlaa wrote:
So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.
Utter nonsense. What you ask for requires not only a sense of personal responsibility, but also actual self-awareness. How dare you expect people to play a video game like they have two brain cells to rub together. Also, sorry for exploding any sarcasm meters with the above  . More seriously, there are a lot of EVE players like the OP. Player who don't quite grasp the fact that EVE is an "emotional free for all" type game and thus not the best choice of past times for people who are overly sensitive (or who believe in some kind of false "e-honor"). Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping).
Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh?
Well, I don't know if you have rubbed your own cells together when you made that claim! And yes, your sarcasm meter went off the charts. |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
24
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:01:00 -
[104] - Quote
Psyrus Baine wrote:HERE is the point once Again. TO all of those I have flown with in the past and know me now know why I haven't been around playing.
I was going to play again just to hang with some old friends and to those I might have had the pleasure of fighting and playing with again you know why I might not be back around for awhile,
I don't have the strength to grind to replace my stuff again. I cant afford to buy plex cards and sell them either because when your stuck in a bed for months on end its kinda hard to hold a job. Even a masters degree cant help generate income when your throwing up and stuck in a hospital.
To those that cant understand the above then I dont care what you think or post anymore I was not posting for you but to the people that actually remember me.
Bro, my feels go out to you however... if those people are not in this thread... what are you doing? Who are you talking to?
I do hope you have a fast recovery though! Best of luck mate |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3034
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:02:00 -
[105] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:
Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected
Please point out where I said he wouldn't be emotionally unaffected. I never said anything of the sort, nor do i care.
I'm saying that the OPs decision to play this type of game (and then get butt hurt about the consequences of his on totally voluntary choices)) was wrong.
EVE isn't really a "kick back and relax" game, it's a "crap here comes more online peopel trying to screw with me" game. Playing EVE online in an attempt to "get away" from real life trouble is the same thing as setting yourself on fire for warmth because it's cold outside and your heater stopped working.
Quote: ....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh?
If he is indeed sick, i feel sorry for him. That has no bearing on how anyone plays a video game. Last year I lost a close friend to cancer (he was my 1st shift partner, we went to the academy together, he literally saved my life once). I was in NCdot at the time,I guess I should have come onto the forums and told Goons to give Tribute back because I wasn't fully focused.......
Quote: Well, I don't know if you have rubbed your own cells together when you made that claim! Yes, your sarcasm meter went off the charts... and any bit of reason too.
People like you amaze me, and not for any good reasons. |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
24
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:04:00 -
[106] - Quote
Kimsemus wrote:Psyrus Baine wrote:You know I haven't played eve in over 2 years because I been in the hospital fighting colon cancer and going through chemo treatments, I been in remission for the last 4 weeks and decided to join a active corp and play some eve while feeling partially human before having to go back in a couple weeks for more tests in hope it stays gone. .
I hope the people that decided it would be fun to Conn me into joining them so they could gank both my characters carriers with all my stuff loaded for moving into a new corp I hope your proud of yourself for taking the opportunity of someone being drugged up with not as much caution as I would normally take. Due to not really thinking about much except trying to get my mind off of having to go through chemo treatments again for a cheap kill. God help you for that.
There is plenty of old eve players that know me and can confirm my being in and out the hospital for the last 4 years. I hope killing my carriers and blowing up my stuff was worth the thrill. To those of you who know and or knew me I wish I could of played just a little longer before ending up back in the hospital but I don't have the drive to fight being conned in a game and deal with reality. To my friends that still do play and remember me I hope you fly safe and maybe if god is on my side I might be back to play again someday. Hello everyone -- I am the FC that organized this drop on him, with invaluable help from one of my corpmates that will remain anon. OP -- I don't regret killing you. At all. I don't regret organizing your cynos, I don't regret organizing the pilots that hot dropped you, I don't regret calling your archon then your thanatos then popping your wrecks. I don't regret it because it's not personal, it's just business. When you were talking in random channels asking for cynos from people you didn't know, I knew you had to pop. When we lit your cyno in the wrong system, in Asa instead of Hasateem you jumped anyway, without questioning it. When you jumped your Archon in a full 30 seconds before your Thanatos into 15 hostile carriers who IMMEDIATELY tackled and began killing you, you jumped your Thanatos in anyway. None of us lied to you, cheated you, or did anything uncouth. You simply asked for a cyno, we gave you one. You just got more than you planned. IF you are sick IRL, I hope you get better, make a full recovery, and live life to the fullest. IF you are sick then we did you a favor -- get off EVE, get out from the front of the PC, spend time with loved ones, or out in the sun, and all that. IF you aren't actually sick -- shame on you. I really don't think you are. I don't want to come off as rude, but I actually think you were just careless and lazy. If you want to try and sit on the forums and take the **** out of me for killing you, feel free. But I didn't kill you, I didn't kill a guy with cancer, I didn't kick your dog or break into your kitchen and eat the chocolate out of your Neapolitan ice cream. I killed your carriers, on your toon, in EVE. Remember that.
But either way I don't feel one ounce of guilt over what I did, and I take full responsibility for it. As I said before. It's just business man. o7 Battle report for reference: https://killboard.ncdot.co.uk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=320519Youtube video by Apollo: http://youtu.be/b7CCZuSWSyk
slowclap! insert explozioms montage HERE
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Molica Iwaira
Perkone Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:13:00 -
[107] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:[quote=Molica Iwaira]
Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected
Please point out where I said he wouldn't be emotionally unaffected. I never said anything of the sort, nor do i care.
I'm saying that the OPs decision to play this type of game (and then get butt hurt about the consequences of his on totally voluntary choices)) was wrong.
EVE isn't really a "kick back and relax" game, it's a "crap here comes more online peopel trying to screw with me" game. Playing EVE online in an attempt to "get away" from real life trouble is the same thing as setting yourself on fire for warmth because it's cold outside and your heater stopped working.
Quote:
I am sure, having characters above 140m sp and having played for many years, he should be most grateful to have this very helpful notification and edification about this game. So am I!
....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh?
If he is indeed sick, i feel sorry for him. That has no bearing on how anyone plays a video game. Last year I lost a close friend to cancer (he was my 1st shift partner, we went to the academy together, he literally saved my life once). I was in NCdot at the time,I guess I should have come onto the forums and told Goons to give Tribute back because I wasn't fully focused.......
[quote]
Well, I cannot agree more. This is probably the biggest mistake he made... by expressing his frustration in these forums of all places, where people apparently cannot put two words together without sarcasm, mockery and contempt. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
836
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:16:00 -
[108] - Quote
thats why I play solo in this game, I'm a bit low on cash but thought to send you a million right away... your story sounded honest
looks like northern coalition are just the same douchebags as the other big alliances out there... hope you make it back and get your revenge ... |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:16:00 -
[109] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Raxlaa wrote:
So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.
Utter nonsense. What you ask for requires not only a sense of personal responsibility, but also actual self-awareness. How dare you expect people to play a video game like they have two brain cells to rub together. Also, sorry for exploding any sarcasm meters with the above  . More seriously, there are a lot of EVE players like the OP. Player who don't quite grasp the fact that EVE is an "emotional free for all" type game and thus not the best choice of past times for people who are overly sensitive (or who believe in some kind of false "e-honor"). Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping). Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh? Well, I don't know if you have rubbed your own cells together when you made that claim! And yes, your sarcasm meter went off the charts.
Does this mean I'm going to have to stop before I start shooting someone to check to see if they have cancer first?
Point of fact, emotionally affected or not, he knew what he was logging into when he logged in. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
907
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:20:00 -
[110] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:KuroVolt wrote:Having cancer doesnt make you immune to making bad choices in a videogame. You'll change your mind if you ever get it. No I wont.
It would really suck if I ever get cancer, but why should this change how other people treat me on EVE? BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3037
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:21:00 -
[111] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:
I am sure, having characters above 140m sp and having played for many years, he should be most grateful to have this very helpful notification and edification about this game. So am I![=;/quote]
As you should be. You're welcome
Well, I cannot agree more. This is probably the biggest mistake he made... by expressing his frustration in these forums of all places, where people apparently cannot put two words together without sarcasm, mockery and contempt.[/quote]
Some people's post deserve "sarcasm, mockery and contempt", because they are contemptible. In this case, a player posted a crazy screed because he lost 2 internet spaceships and some junk, and we're supposed to feel sorry for him (and his attackers are supposed to feel bad) because of some real life situation that has ZERO to do with anything.
A few days ago, another dude posted some similar nonsense because he was some kind of American military service veteran (which means he's just supposed to get his way in a video game made by and Icelandic company lol). It was equally dumb.
People trying to find some kind of way to leverage real life hardship into in game sympathy of some sort is so far beyond pitiful there isn't yet an English word for it. Well there wasn't till now.
So remember kids, don't do a Psyrus Baine.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3037
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:24:00 -
[112] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Does this mean I'm going to have to stop before I start shooting someone to check to see if they have cancer first?
omg noob, don't you know that the ship scanner in EVE is so powerful that it can tell if you have cancer, acne, body odor and/or bad credit in real life? Obviously NCdot shoulda scanned the dude before shooting.
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Molica Iwaira
Perkone Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:25:00 -
[113] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Raxlaa wrote:
So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.
Utter nonsense. What you ask for requires not only a sense of personal responsibility, but also actual self-awareness. How dare you expect people to play a video game like they have two brain cells to rub together. Also, sorry for exploding any sarcasm meters with the above  . More seriously, there are a lot of EVE players like the OP. Player who don't quite grasp the fact that EVE is an "emotional free for all" type game and thus not the best choice of past times for people who are overly sensitive (or who believe in some kind of false "e-honor"). Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping). Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh? Well, I don't know if you have rubbed your own cells together when you made that claim! And yes, your sarcasm meter went off the charts. Does this mean I'm going to have to stop before I start shooting someone to check to see if they have cancer first? Point of fact, emotionally affected or not, he knew what he was logging into when he logged in.
No it doesn't mean you stop before you start shooting someone "ever", but "perhaps" stop before posting something which might be hurting to the already hurt? How about that little thing?
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:25:00 -
[114] - Quote
Another utterly bizarre thread; the EVE forums never disappoint, do they?
I, for one, believe that OP has cancer or at least something else very serious going on IRL. Something about his behavior in the entire affair strikes me as someone not quite all there, and I say that not sarcastically. I really feel for the guy. But at the same time, EVE is still EVE and the boys from NCdot did absolutely nothing wrong. They were handed two loot-pinata carriers on a silver platter and they accepted the gift.
I'm sure it wasn't fun for the OP to see, and it may have hurt his feelings, but no matter how ill he may, there are no real-life ramifications. It's a game, nothing more.
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:26:00 -
[115] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:
Well, I cannot agree more. This is probably the biggest mistake he made... by expressing his frustration in these forums of all places, where people apparently cannot put two words together without sarcasm, mockery and contempt.
It was indeed, because his problem wasn't with anyone else but the people who tricked him and destroyed his carriers. But still, he felt the need to jump on the forums and make out as if everyone on this game is just as bad as everyone else, or that their in-game behaviour somehow reflects on their real-life personality, and attempt to guilt trip his assailants, publicly, with his cancer card. Now, I'm actually giving him the benefit of the doubt with his cancer. I believe him when he says he has it, but in fact, it doesn't matter whether I believe him or not, because unlike others, I'm not sorry he has it, but nor am I glad he has it. I'm indifferent, no feelings on the issue at all - as mentioned earlier, I am an actual sociopath and really don't have any feelings over it. In a way, that gives me a more objective viewpoint on the issue as well. I don't feel any guilt or shame at not being sympathetic towards his condition, but nor do I feel any spite towards him.
But it's basically got nothing to do with anyone else here. At the end of the day, his problem turned out to be with one group of individuals, not the entire population of GD or EVE. The reason he was met with sarcasm, mockery and contempt was because of the way he went about venting, not the vent itself. The biggest mistake he actually made was actually logging on to EVE without taking the precautions against what happened to him. If his judgement was impaired, then his mistake was logging on to EVE at all, and he damn well knows it. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:30:00 -
[116] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
Does this mean I'm going to have to stop before I start shooting someone to check to see if they have cancer first?
Point of fact, emotionally affected or not, he knew what he was logging into when he logged in.
No it doesn't mean you stop before you start shooting someone "ever", but "perhaps" stop before posting something which might be hurting to the already hurt? How about that little thing?
I was responding to you, not him. If he takes offence at my comments directed towards you, that is entirely his problem and not my intention or fault. You've had a few things to say on this thread. Do you really expect no one to respond? On that note, he posted this thread on a public forum. It has not been locked. Many other people around here are still going to have something to say.
On that note, how are we supposed to know he's really hurt? And why should it matter if the issue is made public and therefore subject to public commentary by the OP himself? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3038
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:31:00 -
[117] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:
No it doesn't mean you stop before you start shooting someone "ever", but "perhaps" stop before posting something which might be hurting to the already hurt? How about that little thing?
If the poster doesn't want to be hurt by others posting, it's his responsibility to not post something so utterly ridicules in the 1st place.
You sound like a classic "enabler" telling people that the dumb things they do are ok, while telling the people who are playing totally within the rules (such as NCDot in game and the rest of us in this forum) that they are somehow doing it wrong.
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
2881
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:47:00 -
[118] - Quote
And you sound like a broken record. Can you contribute anything BUT blaming others for being 'enablers' or 'entitled?'
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:50:00 -
[119] - Quote
Anslo wrote:And you sound like a broken record. Can you contribute anything BUT blaming others for being 'enablers' or 'entitled?'
It's annoying, to be sure, but can you actually present an argument that demonstrates he's made a mistake and that he's wrong in this case or are you just going to point out what you perceive as flaws in his word usage? Also, point out the part where he explicitly or implicitly blames anyone. Then try to learn the difference between fault and blame. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Molica Iwaira
Perkone Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:52:00 -
[120] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:
No it doesn't mean you stop before you start shooting someone "ever", but "perhaps" stop before posting something which might be hurting to the already hurt? How about that little thing?
If the poster doesn't want to be hurt by others posting, it's his responsibility to not post something so utterly ridicules in the 1st place. You sound like a classic "enabler" telling people that the dumb things they do are ok, while telling the people who are playing totally within the rules (such as NCDot in game and the rest of us in this forum) that they are somehow doing it wrong.
NCdot is totaly unrelated with what I am saying. Forgive me my difficulty for finding a frustrated dying man's post "ridiculous" but the ease which I find the ridiculing posts pathetic. Well, don't mind me! As you said above, there are some "interesting" people like me. |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3040
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:53:00 -
[121] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Anslo wrote:And you sound like a broken record. Can you contribute anything BUT blaming others for being 'enablers' or 'entitled?' It's annoying, to be sure, but can you actually present an argument that demonstrates he's made a mistake and that he's wrong in this case or are you just going to point out what you perceive as flaws in his word usage? Also, point out the part where he explicitly or implicitly blames anyone. Then try to learn the difference between fault and blame.
No no, let him snipe fro the sidelines because he has nothing else to say. Don't take what little dignity he has left lol. After all, he's entitled to enable others to do dumb things....
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San La Muerte
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:56:00 -
[122] - Quote
Psyrus Baine wrote:You know I haven't played eve in over 2 years because I been in the hospital fighting colon cancer and going through chemo treatments, I been in remission for the last 4 weeks and decided to join a active corp and play some eve while feeling partially human before having to go back in a couple weeks for more tests in hope it stays gone. .
I hope the people that decided it would be fun to Conn me into joining them so they could gank both my characters carriers with all my stuff loaded for moving into a new corp I hope your proud of yourself for taking the opportunity of someone being drugged up with not as much caution as I would normally take. Due to not really thinking about much except trying to get my mind off of having to go through chemo treatments again for a cheap kill. God help you for that.
There is plenty of old eve players that know me and can confirm my being in and out the hospital for the last 4 years. I hope killing my carriers and blowing up my stuff was worth the thrill. To those of you who know and or knew me I wish I could of played just a little longer before ending up back in the hospital but I don't have the drive to fight being conned in a game and deal with reality. To my friends that still do play and remember me I hope you fly safe and maybe if god is on my side I might be back to play again someday.
Very sorry for your health issues. Awful, I hope your health returns and you are fine.
However, you being in hospital has nothing to do with in-game events and if you are an old Eve vet you really should know better and be cautious. You made a mistake in a game known for the ruthless behaviour of it's players, bringing cancer and God into the issue is really not cool. Take it on the chin and start again. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
2882
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:59:00 -
[123] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:No no, let him snipe fro the sidelines because he has nothing else to say. Don't take what little dignity he has left lol. After all, he's entitled to enable others to do dumb things....
Yep, like Scope venture fleets. All the ventures. All the hobgoblins. ALL THE LOVE. 0 OF THE CALORIES \o/ edit: Who needs dignity??
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
27
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Posted - 2013.10.15 17:59:00 -
[124] - Quote
I've never flown anything larger than a BS but I would imagine that Carriers and up etc are not ships that lend themselves to casual jaunts around the region hahaha
Why do we not hear more people cry for the rocks that all of the miners are melting and syphoning to their ore holds?? I had a rock collection once... boringz.
At least you got a good story out of it ... that one time I had cancer for a long time and got dropped on because I failed so hard and then went out with a bang then asked for ISK so I could likely do the same thing over again except this time would be different because... oh wait, nothing changes with or without your in-game loss.
... drops the mic and walks away ... |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3040
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:01:00 -
[125] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:
NCdot is totaly unrelated with what I am saying. Forgive me my difficulty for finding a frustrated dying man's post "ridiculous" but the ease with which I find the ridiculing posts pathetic. Well, don't mind me! As you said above, there are some "interesting" people like me.
You have proof that this man is dying? you seem to think we're being mean to a sick guy. We're not. We're telling a fellow player that if what he is saying is true, then he has our sympathy, but that does not extend to in game or this forum. Don't like fire, don't lite matches at an oil refinery.
Regardless of what is happening to him IRL, His character isn't dying of anything except butt-hurtitis. Accusing people (in this case the Ever Flow guys) of some kind of moral misconduct for playing a computer game correctly because real life has been unfair to him is, indeed, ridicules. As i said earlier in this thread, i stubbed my to playing EVE recently, by the OPs logic I should be reimbursed for any and all ingame loses on humanitarian grounds.
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:02:00 -
[126] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:
No it doesn't mean you stop before you start shooting someone "ever", but "perhaps" stop before posting something which might be hurting to the already hurt? How about that little thing?
If the poster doesn't want to be hurt by others posting, it's his responsibility to not post something so utterly ridicules in the 1st place. You sound like a classic "enabler" telling people that the dumb things they do are ok, while telling the people who are playing totally within the rules (such as NCDot in game and the rest of us in this forum) that they are somehow doing it wrong. NCdot is totaly unrelated with what I am saying. Forgive me my difficulty for finding a frustrated dying man's post "ridiculous" but the ease with which I find the ridiculing posts pathetic. Well, don't mind me! As you said above, there are some "interesting" people like me.
Just because someone is dying, that doesn't grant them an automatic "get away with anything" card. The reason Jenn is calling you an 'enabler' (a word that I don't particularly think suits, but oh well) is because you are allowing him to get away with dismissing his own faults in the issue, just because "oh poor you, you're dying and everyone should feel bad about that". I would argue otherwise - why is it anyone else's concern, what is there that we can do about it, and why this one guy that nobody knows a damn about beyond this thread?
Let me clarify what's really going on here for you, and sum up this entire thread tl;dr version - No one is saying that his attackers aren't at fault, we're all just pointing out that he's disregarding his own and failing to take responsibility for his own mistakes while shouldering ALL the blame on his attackers, and then using that as an excuse to defame everyone else that plays in a similar fashion. Don't you think that's earned him at least a little criticism, cancer or none? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4038
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:07:00 -
[127] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:
No it doesn't mean you stop before you start shooting someone "ever", but "perhaps" stop before posting something which might be hurting to the already hurt? How about that little thing?
If the poster doesn't want to be hurt by others posting, it's his responsibility to not post something so utterly ridicules in the 1st place. You sound like a classic "enabler" telling people that the dumb things they do are ok, while telling the people who are playing totally within the rules (such as NCDot in game and the rest of us in this forum) that they are somehow doing it wrong. NCdot is totaly unrelated with what I am saying. Forgive me my difficulty for finding a frustrated dying man's post "ridiculous" but the ease with which I find the ridiculing posts pathetic. Well, don't mind me! As you said above, there are some "interesting" people like me. You are such an easily manipulated ******! He is NOT dying! He MIGHT die, but he could as well not! Hell, thanks to morons like you every nutjob will come to the forums, claiming to havd prostate cancer, AIDS and only one testicle ALL AT ONCE!
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:09:00 -
[128] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:
No it doesn't mean you stop before you start shooting someone "ever", but "perhaps" stop before posting something which might be hurting to the already hurt? How about that little thing?
If the poster doesn't want to be hurt by others posting, it's his responsibility to not post something so utterly ridicules in the 1st place. You sound like a classic "enabler" telling people that the dumb things they do are ok, while telling the people who are playing totally within the rules (such as NCDot in game and the rest of us in this forum) that they are somehow doing it wrong. NCdot is totaly unrelated with what I am saying. Forgive me my difficulty for finding a frustrated dying man's post "ridiculous" but the ease with which I find the ridiculing posts pathetic. Well, don't mind me! As you said above, there are some "interesting" people like me. You are such an easily manipulated ******! He is NOT dying! He MIGHT die, but he could as well not! Hell, thanks to morons like you every nutjob will come to the forums, claiming to havd prostate cancer, AIDS and only one testicle ALL AT ONCE!
Truthfully though, we're all dying. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
293
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:13:00 -
[129] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote: I'm torn on this one. On the one hand I'm sure this stuff happens and it sucks. On the other hand it sounds awfully similar to a 2 year old story on kugutsumen.
Anyway, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and wish you the best
--Ero
Yes because we all know that similar things could never happen to different people.  |

Molica Iwaira
Perkone Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:13:00 -
[130] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:
NCdot is totaly unrelated with what I am saying. Forgive me my difficulty for finding a frustrated dying man's post "ridiculous" but the ease with which I find the ridiculing posts pathetic. Well, don't mind me! As you said above, there are some "interesting" people like me.
We're telling a fellow player that if what he is saying is true, then he has our sympathy
That is a feeble but good starter attempt there, thanks. No we certainly cannot be sure he is dying, but his friend who mediated - without his knowledge and consent - the setup confirmed this. On the other hand, is the official hospital records the only thing which would prevent us from being mean? |
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:16:00 -
[131] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:
NCdot is totaly unrelated with what I am saying. Forgive me my difficulty for finding a frustrated dying man's post "ridiculous" but the ease with which I find the ridiculing posts pathetic. Well, don't mind me! As you said above, there are some "interesting" people like me.
We're telling a fellow player that if what he is saying is true, then he has our sympathy That is a feeble but good starter attempt there, thanks. No we certainly cannot be sure he is dying, but his friend who mediated - without his knowledge and consent - the setup confirmed this. On the other hand, is the official hospital records the only thing which would prevent us from being mean?
Define 'mean'. Is criticism mean? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Anya Klibor
Error-404 Cup Of ConKrete.
442
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:17:00 -
[132] - Quote
I know it's been said before, including on BattleClinic, but...
"WELCOME TO EVE!"
*~*Confetti!*~* |

Baaldor
In Igne Morim Easily Excited
116
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:19:00 -
[133] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:
NCdot is totaly unrelated with what I am saying. Forgive me my difficulty for finding a frustrated dying man's post "ridiculous" but the ease with which I find the ridiculing posts pathetic. Well, don't mind me! As you said above, there are some "interesting" people like me.
We're telling a fellow player that if what he is saying is true, then he has our sympathy That is a feeble but good starter attempt there, thanks. No we certainly cannot be sure he is dying, but his friend who mediated - without his knowledge and consent - the setup confirmed this. On the other hand, is the official hospital records the only thing which would prevent us from being mean?
It is a frigging game, who gives a flip if his thing is going to fall off or he has anal warts.
You normally play a game to "escape" the issues you are dealing with at the time, and not bring the crap with you unless you are fishing for sympathy.
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E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
293
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:23:00 -
[134] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Raxlaa wrote:
So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.
Utter nonsense. What you ask for requires not only a sense of personal responsibility, but also actual self-awareness. How dare you expect people to play a video game like they have two brain cells to rub together. Also, sorry for exploding any sarcasm meters with the above  . More seriously, there are a lot of EVE players like the OP. Player who don't quite grasp the fact that EVE is an "emotional free for all" type game and thus not the best choice of past times for people who are overly sensitive (or who believe in some kind of false "e-honor"). Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping). Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh? Well, I don't know if you have rubbed your own cells together when you made that claim! And yes, your sarcasm meter went off the charts. This would require there to be two cells to rub together. Claiming jenn even had one would be showing great generosity. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:26:00 -
[135] - Quote
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Raxlaa wrote:
So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.
Utter nonsense. What you ask for requires not only a sense of personal responsibility, but also actual self-awareness. How dare you expect people to play a video game like they have two brain cells to rub together. Also, sorry for exploding any sarcasm meters with the above  . More seriously, there are a lot of EVE players like the OP. Player who don't quite grasp the fact that EVE is an "emotional free for all" type game and thus not the best choice of past times for people who are overly sensitive (or who believe in some kind of false "e-honor"). Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping). Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh? Well, I don't know if you have rubbed your own cells together when you made that claim! And yes, your sarcasm meter went off the charts. This would require there to be two cells to rub together. Claiming jenn even had one would be showing great generosity.
In the time I've been watching him post now, which is a while now, I can honestly say, he has much more brain capacity than you give him credit for, but that's beside the point now isn't it. Attempting to discredit the man instead of the point he makes only demonstrates that you have no argument against the point he makes. His intelligence is invalid in this case, but if you are unable to argue against the point he has made, then aren't you demonstrating less intelligence than him as a result? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3040
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:34:00 -
[136] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:
That is a feeble but good starter attempt there, thanks. No we certainly cannot be sure he is dying, but his friend who mediated - without his knowledge and consent - the setup confirmed this. On the other hand, is the official hospital records the only thing which would prevent us from being mean?
So the friend confirms it. Now did you confirm the friend?
This is a forum for a video game, not a cancer survivor support group.
A supposedly sick person posted a ridicules post basically saying that NCdot should be ashamed of themselves for (and I can't believe I'm typing this) rudely destroying his spaceships in a spaceship game. By posting this he invited criticism. If he didn't want criticism, he should not have posted.
But rather than hold him responsible for his irresponsible posting, you blame us. Have you ever been to GD before? This forum and rough and rugged, don't like getting hit in the face, you should probably avoid boxing rings.
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Molica Iwaira
Perkone Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:37:00 -
[137] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:
NCdot is totaly unrelated with what I am saying. Forgive me my difficulty for finding a frustrated dying man's post "ridiculous" but the ease with which I find the ridiculing posts pathetic. Well, don't mind me! As you said above, there are some "interesting" people like me.
We're telling a fellow player that if what he is saying is true, then he has our sympathy That is a feeble but good starter attempt there, thanks. No we certainly cannot be sure he is dying, but his friend who mediated - without his knowledge and consent - the setup confirmed this. On the other hand, is the official hospital records the only thing which would prevent us from being mean? Define 'mean'. Is criticism mean?
Are you serious? Qualifying some of the posts in this thread as anything nearing "criticism" would be a gross kindness to their posters. Well.. anyway, I am done here. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3041
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:40:00 -
[138] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:
In the time I've been watching him post now, which is a while now, I can honestly say, he has much more brain capacity than you give him credit for, but that's beside the point now isn't it. Attempting to discredit the man instead of the point he makes only demonstrates that you have no argument against the point he makes. His intelligence is invalid in this case, but if you are unable to argue against the point he has made, then aren't you demonstrating less intelligence than him as a result?
Why yes, yes he is.
I've spanked Hawkeye and Anslo so much on this forum (and have the likes to prove it, see, Likes ARE valuable) that their postings are even less intelligent than they were when we started, and that's saying something. The fact that they have to snipe at me means I own them, and it's a good thing this is a game instead of IRL, because slavery is illegal IRL 
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:44:00 -
[139] - Quote
Molica Iwaira wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:
NCdot is totaly unrelated with what I am saying. Forgive me my difficulty for finding a frustrated dying man's post "ridiculous" but the ease with which I find the ridiculing posts pathetic. Well, don't mind me! As you said above, there are some "interesting" people like me.
We're telling a fellow player that if what he is saying is true, then he has our sympathy That is a feeble but good starter attempt there, thanks. No we certainly cannot be sure he is dying, but his friend who mediated - without his knowledge and consent - the setup confirmed this. On the other hand, is the official hospital records the only thing which would prevent us from being mean? Define 'mean'. Is criticism mean? Are you serious? Qualifying some of the posts in this thread as anything nearing "criticism" would be a gross kindness to their posters. Well.. anyway, I am done here.
The way you're implying 'mean' though, you're doing the polar opposite and qualifying everything that doesn't address the OP with "poor you" as mean. I merely asked a question. I never once suggested that there is nothing mean on here or qualified anything as anything, that's what my question was for, I was asking you to define 'mean', to qualify what you think of as mean and to see if you understand the difference between criticism and intentional cruelty. So let's try again.
Define 'mean'. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:47:00 -
[140] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
In the time I've been watching him post now, which is a while now, I can honestly say, he has much more brain capacity than you give him credit for, but that's beside the point now isn't it. Attempting to discredit the man instead of the point he makes only demonstrates that you have no argument against the point he makes. His intelligence is invalid in this case, but if you are unable to argue against the point he has made, then aren't you demonstrating less intelligence than him as a result?
Why yes, yes he is. I've spanked Hawkeye and Anslo so much on this forum (and have the likes to prove it, see, Likes ARE valuable) that their postings are even less intelligent than they were when we started, and that's saying something. The fact that they have to snipe at me means I own them, and it's a good thing this is a game instead of IRL, because slavery is illegal IRL 
To be fair, though, you have a bad habit of thinking you've spanked everyone. I rarely, if ever, see you defer to a good argument or compromise your position in light of opposing evidence. But, in this case, there's very little to argue with you on. And if there is something, then no one's brought it up yet. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3041
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:51:00 -
[141] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote: To be fair, though, you have a bad habit of thinking you've spanked everyone. I rarely, if ever, see you defer to a good argument or compromise your position in light of opposing evidence.
That's because the people I usually post against don't actually provide evidence. I post links and they dismiss them, they post ill conceived and unsubstantiated BS and call it evidence.
No sir, i have spanked the people in question as evidenced by the overwhelming support of my forum peers (we call em likes!) and by the fact that these guys can do nothing but snipe at me from the sidelines.
Quote: But, in this case, there's very little to argue with you on. And if there is something, then no one's brought it up yet.
As is usually the case! Excelsior and all that. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
|
Posted - 2013.10.15 18:56:00 -
[142] - Quote
That post actually highlights my point quite nicely. Other people will see what I'm talking about, but you likely won't, and I'm not going to argue with you on this one because... well, you won't defer, and it would be a waste of my time. In any case, this thread isn't about you or me or Anslo or anyone, and I'm still waiting for this definition of 'mean' and how it applies to the posts here so far. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Kimsemus
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
95
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:58:00 -
[143] - Quote
Honestly, we both gave our sides of the issue.
Please refer to my post on Page 5 for my personal opinion on the issue.
For those of you whom say we should feel bad because he's sick: Please. We didn't know he was at the time we killed him, and even if we did, it wouldn't have stopped us, because we don't apply the same moral code in EVE that what would IRL. If he is sick I truly sympathize with his plight as a human being, but I feel nothing as an EVE player.
The irrefutable fact is: He died, and then he attempted to guilt us over it.
Your IRL situation is completely irrelevant to gameplay. Players die every day by the hundreds because we have to take a bio break ratting, or we get distracted by the TV, or our significant others are naked and want a romp and don't have time to dock, or we're sick, or we're just having a bad day. It's unrealistic and foolish to get into a moral quandary or to sit and ask how someone's day was before we kill them so we can make a quantifiable decision as to whether or not to haze them or not.
I too, like any PVPer, have lost ships because I was distracted. I've even been scammed because I was naive/gullible. It is what it is and I don't fault the other person for killing me every time I die.
I do not, at any point, feel like we scammed him. I don't think we did anything morally questionable. He felt he had some kind of information regarding who our cyno pilot was that he never even asked to confirm, or confirm in any channel, or look at a corp history (which has been obvious to posters here looking at the toon involved), nor did he question the cyno being lit in the wrong system, nor did he stop from jumping in a second carrier fully at least 15-30 seconds after his first was engaged by us.
Take the RL guilt trip away, and this is simply a case of a player being careless and failing even the most basic precautions when dealing with capital ships. Our KB doesn't accurately reflect his losses, we popped 7-8 billion worth of his things which would upset anyone, surely. I'm not even mocking him for his loss, I'm upset that he wants to make us feel bad for PVPing.
Again, as a human being living in the world, if he is sick, I truly feel for him, I hope he gets better, and I would never wish to see another person suffer. I mourned Vile Rat's death as an American and a person, even though he was from an "enemy" alliance. But as a player in the game, our fleets engaged his fleets all the same. Same for this fellow. I appropriate him the same level of hostility any other neutral, regardless of whom he is. In this way, we are not wrong, we are in fact the most even-handed and just kind of players we can possibly be.
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Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
394
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Posted - 2013.10.15 18:58:00 -
[144] - Quote
Raxlaa wrote:Perhaps we can make it so if you do suffer from particular hardships in real life at the oment, you could apply for some kind of 'bumper sticker' or 'L' plates or ismilar to put on your ships?
Then others would know that this player is having a hard time in real life, and could avoid ganking / stealing / scamming their stuff and laughing?
Though thats a bit impractical, and I daresay would have the exact opposite effect.
So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.
Seriously. This.
There's a ton of people with issues playing. It's a game of half a million people, so obviously a fair few have a story and have a **** hand dealt to them in life but you won't know because mostly they just get on with it, but some people come to the forums and tell all, for who knows what reason.
Like that American solider who wanted plex the other day. Or the incursion guy who has tumors. Maybe it's a cry for help whooooo knows. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3041
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:04:00 -
[145] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:That post actually highlights my point quite nicely. Other people will see what I'm talking about, but you likely won't, and I'm not going to argue with you on this one because... well, you won't defer, and it would be a waste of my time. In any case, this thread isn't about you or me or Anslo or anyone, and I'm still waiting for this definition of 'mean' and how it applies to the posts here so far.
You can't take a joke can you?
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:04:00 -
[146] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:That post actually highlights my point quite nicely. Other people will see what I'm talking about, but you likely won't, and I'm not going to argue with you on this one because... well, you won't defer, and it would be a waste of my time. In any case, this thread isn't about you or me or Anslo or anyone, and I'm still waiting for this definition of 'mean' and how it applies to the posts here so far. You can't take a joke can you?
I may have mentioned my autism to you previously.... I forget. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3041
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:20:00 -
[147] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:That post actually highlights my point quite nicely. Other people will see what I'm talking about, but you likely won't, and I'm not going to argue with you on this one because... well, you won't defer, and it would be a waste of my time. In any case, this thread isn't about you or me or Anslo or anyone, and I'm still waiting for this definition of 'mean' and how it applies to the posts here so far. You can't take a joke can you? I may have mentioned my autism to you previously.... I forget. I take almost everything literally by default. I'm getting better, and with people I'm close to, like my alliance mates on Mumble, I can tell joking from serious because I know them well enough to have built a rapport.
I understand that, my step daughter is autistic. I will remember that in the future.
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Nonoyesyes
Evolution Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:21:00 -
[148] - Quote
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
2729
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:22:00 -
[149] - Quote
1.) From personal experience, I concur: Cancer sucks... sorry your going through it.
2.) Just because it was the same character doesn't mean it was the same player. I wonder if this is the case here.
3.) It doesn't matter if you are recovering from brain surgery after being shot in the head for advocating woman should be educated. It doesn't matter if you are some super-lucky, 100m dollar lottery winner. Your out of game "ups and downs" are generally completely independent of what happens in game. You got ganked joining a corp. Sorry, tough luck, live and learn. Some lessons are only learned under the harshest of conditions.
4.) Replacing 10b in losses hurts... but if you've earned it once, you know you can earn it again. Move in slowly, and be cautious about it next time you join a corp.
5.) There are three ways you could respond to this: Do Nothing... rebuild, etc.... I can see how this might be demotivating and hinder your desire to play. Character Suicide, which should never be the answer.... or Homicide... Seriously, no other aspect of this game should provide such strong motivation as this. Start plotting your vengeance, and serve it up cold! It's very easy to deal 10b in damage to an entity like NC., so do it!
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Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
10
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:28:00 -
[150] - Quote
I am not here looking for anyone's opinion or what ever else you decide to spew. I was the only person left playing eve in my corp. I am not a member of any other forum that would let people know why I have BEEN gone and MIGHT be gone for awhile longer.
The people that was expecting me back by some off chance might see this and know why I might not be back and its not by my own choice.
If you don't understand that then you might want to step outside and enjoy a breath of fresh air while you can because that is something that can be taken from anyone in a blink of an eye.
For all the trolls that want to poke fun I am glad to entertain you. God Speed to those that actually understand.
The person that was in the channel where i was the night before was treated like a friend by everyone in the channel. NO ONE ever said anything about not to trust him and everyone knew i was going to need a cyno to get over where they all play. Ya shame on me for trusting someone that was treated like a friend. If you ever face anything that ever tests your will to even get the strength to try and make it through another day maybe you will understand. Good for you on your kill mails I am glad I was able to pad your stats. I came back to play and think about anything else that just might let me think about anything but what is actually happening in real life.
I have played along time and understand you loose ships, But when you get people that actually pretend to be a friend then get screwed over ya it sucks. Loosing the ships is minor to the time I lost which is more valuable than 10000 carriers. Even the other people in the channel thought of you as a friend. Its a shame that you haven't actually made real friends from playing eve. I have friends that came here over 10 years ago that has become some very close and good real life friends that unfortunately has moved on with wife and kids and no longer have time to play. Well I have lost all the people in real life that I thought I could trust to help me though this which takes allot time and I don't expect anyone to sacrifice for me. I never said I am 100% been told i am going to die, right now I am winning the battle but still have more tests in faith I will be around a long time to come. You have no idea what a person has to endure when faced with any kind of debilitating illness.
If you don't know who I am then no one ever said you have to read anything I have posted. Somehow you think you are being forced to read any of this and that's pretty messed up you cant understand the reason why I would like the people who do know me to understand why I haven't been playing, why I am back to try play again. And facing the real possibility why there is a reason I might not get to play in the future.
If i do decide to play which I have been given some very good reasons to stay and play. Please feel free to make fun of me all you want, if you think your pathetic remarks will make me feel bad then you truly do not understand much about life. Please feel free to put me on your list and send me remarks etc that way I know if something bad does happen in real life I wont be forgotten and I actually made some pathetic low life think about more than just a kill mail or a game.
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Kimsemus
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
96
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:51:00 -
[151] - Quote
Psyrus Baine wrote:I am not here looking for anyone's opinion or what ever else you decide to spew. I was the only person left playing eve in my corp. I am not a member of any other forum that would let people know why I have BEEN gone and MIGHT be gone for awhile longer.
The people that was expecting me back by some off chance might see this and know why I might not be back and its not by my own choice.
No, it very much is your own choice. You are choosing to quit. No one made that decision for you. You still have your toon and your wallet. As the old adage says: "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose."
Quote: If you don't understand that then you might want to step outside and enjoy a breath of fresh air while you can because that is something that can be taken from anyone in a blink of an eye.
For all the trolls that want to poke fun I am glad to entertain you. God Speed to those that actually understand.
The person that was in the channel where i was the night before was treated like a friend by everyone in the channel. NO ONE ever said anything about not to trust him and everyone knew i was going to need a cyno to get over where they all play. Ya shame on me for trusting someone that was treated like a friend.
You didn't know him at all. That was the first time you've ever spoken to him except for his interactions with the other people in the channel because you had been away from game.
Quote:If you ever face anything that ever tests your will to even get the strength to try and make it through another day maybe you will understand. Good for you on your kill mails I am glad I was able to pad your stats. I came back to play and think about anything else that just might let me think about anything but what is actually happening in real life.
You came back to play a game. We play that game too, friend. And in that game we PVP. You do not exist in an MMO in stasis because you're using it as an escape. Social interactions are what make the game what it is. Nor do you get a pass.
Quote:I have played along time and understand you loose ships, But when you get people that actually pretend to be a friend then get screwed over ya it sucks. Loosing the ships is minor to the time I lost which is more valuable than 10000 carriers. Even the other people in the channel thought of you as a friend. Its a shame that you haven't actually made real friends from playing eve. I have friends that came here over 10 years ago that has become some very close and good real life friends that unfortunately has moved on with wife and kids and no longer have time to play.
I'm his friend, I would follow him anywhere, which is why when he needed an FC for this operations I stepped up without question. All the other people in the fleet know him and within game context we would happily fight and die for one another. We hang out and spend time together on TS and know about each others personal lives and play other games together. Your statement is judgmental and ignorant.
Quote: Well I have lost all the people in real life that I thought I could trust to help me though this which takes allot time and I don't expect anyone to sacrifice for me. I never said I am 100% been told i am going to die, right now I am winning the battle but still have more tests in faith I will be around a long time to come. You have no idea what a person has to endure when faced with any kind of debilitating illness.
Actually, you said precisely that: http://i.imgur.com/nbwif2x.jpg Look towards the bottom, you can play symantics with the wording but you implied you had six months to live, erego you were going to die. You in fact used that exactly as a weapon of guilt.
If you don't know who I am then no one ever said you have to read anything I have posted. Somehow you think you are being forced to read any of this and that's pretty messed up you cant understand the reason why I would like the people who do know me to understand why I haven't been playing, why I am back to try play again. And facing the real possibility why there is a reason I might not get to play in the future.
If i do decide to play which I have been given some very good reasons to stay and play. Please feel free to make fun of me all you want, if you think your pathetic remarks will make me feel bad then you truly do not understand much about life. Please feel free to put me on your list and send me remarks etc that way I know if something bad does happen in real life I wont be forgotten and I actually made some pathetic low life think about more than just a kill mail or a game. [/quote]
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1443
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:57:00 -
[152] - Quote
Seriously ill person is upset and has a bit of a rant.
Let him be, ranting will probably lighten his mood for a while.
Hope you make a good recovery. This is not a signature. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:58:00 -
[153] - Quote
Psyrus Baine wrote:I am not here looking for anyone's opinion or what ever else you decide to spew. I was the only person left playing eve in my corp. I am not a member of any other forum that would let people know why I have BEEN gone and MIGHT be gone for awhile longer.
The people that was expecting me back by some off chance might see this and know why I might not be back and its not by my own choice.
Doesn't matter. Post in a public forum, get public opinion. You might not be looking for it, but you're going to get it and you should expect it. If you were looking to inform specific people of a specific thing, you have at your disposal the in-game EVE-mail service. But this is not all you did. You also tried to shame the people that attacked you.
Quote:If you don't understand that then you might want to step outside and enjoy a breath of fresh air while you can because that is something that can be taken from anyone in a blink of an eye.
This is true, for anyone, whether they have cancer or not. A lesson we all know well with the loss of Vile Rat. Why does a potentially terminal illness grant you special circumstances? That is not a rhetorical question, I'd actually like an answer.
Quote:For all the trolls that want to poke fun I am glad to entertain you. God Speed to those that actually understand.
Which god? I'm an atheist, so attempting to shame me or anyone else that might be one with this god you speak of will be somewhat fruitless.
And I won't address the rest of your post as it just comes across as another attempt to guilt trip everyone into feeling sorry for you. You screwed up in game, you paid the price in game. How it affects anything going on in the real world for you is beyond me, but then again, I have a decent grasp on reality and I'm able to separate it from fictional game worlds. As I've stated previously, you knew what you were logging into the moment you logged in. I will address one small comment you made, however, that pissed me off somewhat.
Quote:You have no idea what a person has to endure when faced with any kind of debilitating illness.
And you have no idea what anyone on these forums or in this game has had to endure. Nor do you have any idea what anyone in this game has an idea of. This was a very presumptuous thing to say and by virtue of the presumption, quite rude and arrogant. Perhaps, if you toned back the attitude and the blaming somewhat, people might be a little more lenient with you. Thus far, you've given no one a reason to feel any sympathy for you. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
1539
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:58:00 -
[154] - Quote
Now would be a good time for us all to just take a step back and relax. Someone earlier mentioned some neapolitan ice cream. I'm going to go to the store now and buy myself some. And I'm going to eat all three flavors equally. We should all do the same. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3041
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:03:00 -
[155] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Now would be a good time for us all to just take a step back and relax. Someone earlier mentioned some neapolitan ice cream WEED. I'm going to go to the store DOPE HOUSE now and buy myself some. And I'm going to eatSMOKE all three flavors BLUNTS equally. We should all do the same.
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Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
10
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:13:00 -
[156] - Quote
You go ahead and justify what ever you want. I have met people like you in the past. You never want any side of a story to ever put you in a bad light or want to believe that they are nothing but the best. I am glad I make you put up post after post to justify yourself.
If you truly was this great eve player then you wouldn't have to justify the actions of a person pretending to be a friend of the people that was in the channel or even reply to a post that never once mentioned your name directly or anyone's name at that. Even the people that was there have stated here they even thought they was on good terms with each other.
So please post some more I think its funny to watch you keep trying to justify yours and his actions. Please post some more because I then know I am getting under your skin. I hope you go to bed at night thinking about what else you can post on this thread that was not even for you in the first place. Glad I could help you feel like your a good player because your are obviously a pathetic person in real life. Go take a trip to the hospital and make fun of the people there that are having to deal with any kind of chemo treatments I would love to read about you being tossed from a window. SO shut your mouth go ask your mom if you can suckle for a bit so you can feel better about not knowing what it is like to understand about situations that deal with real life and not a game. |

Kimsemus
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
96
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:20:00 -
[157] - Quote
Psyrus Baine wrote:You go ahead and justify what ever you want. I have met people like you in the past. You never want any side of a story to ever put you in a bad light or want to believe that they are nothing but the best. I am glad I make you put up post after post to justify yourself.
If you truly was this great eve player then you wouldn't have to justify the actions of a person pretending to be a friend of the people that was in the channel or even reply to a post that never once mentioned your name directly or anyone's name at that. Even the people that was there have stated here they even thought they was on good terms with each other.
So please post some more I think its funny to watch you keep trying to justify yours and his actions. Please post some more because I then know I am getting under your skin. I hope you go to bed at night thinking about what else you can post on this thread that was not even for you in the first place. Glad I could help you feel like your a good player because your are obviously a pathetic person in real life. Go take a trip to the hospital and make fun of the people there that are having to deal with any kind of chemo treatments I would love to read about you being tossed from a window. SO shut your mouth go ask your mom if you can suckle for a bit so you can feel better about not knowing what it is like to understand about situations that deal with real life and not a game.
Will all due respect sir, you seem much, much more upset than I am. In fact I believe the kangaroo court would agree that on these forums I have been nothing but polite to you.
I have simply given my perspective and a polite and professional manner while disagreeing with you. Unlike the last few lines of this post, I have never said anything ill of you personally.
You are in fact, being quite judgmental and rude towards me and my associates. I would be upset...but I still have my carriers, sir. :)
gf. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is. |

Rattman
Van Diemen's Demise Northern Coalition.
5
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:21:00 -
[158] - Quote
Lets also be completely honest you are joining ronnag alba who are former members of NC. and left on good terms. But who have also attacking and killing NC ships in / around catch.
That make you a completely legal target as far as i am concerne |

Baaldor
In Igne Morim Easily Excited
118
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:23:00 -
[159] - Quote
Psyrus Baine wrote:You go ahead and justify what ever you want. I have met people like you in the past. You never want any side of a story to ever put you in a bad light or want to believe that they are nothing but the best. I am glad I make you put up post after post to justify yourself.
If you truly was this great eve player then you wouldn't have to justify the actions of a person pretending to be a friend of the people that was in the channel or even reply to a post that never once mentioned your name directly or anyone's name at that. Even the people that was there have stated here they even thought they was on good terms with each other.
So please post some more I think its funny to watch you keep trying to justify yours and his actions. Please post some more because I then know I am getting under your skin. I hope you go to bed at night thinking about what else you can post on this thread that was not even for you in the first place. Glad I could help you feel like your a good player because your are obviously a pathetic person in real life. Go take a trip to the hospital and make fun of the people there that are having to deal with any kind of chemo treatments I would love to read about you being tossed from a window. SO shut your mouth go ask your mom if you can suckle for a bit so you can feel better about not knowing what it is like to understand about situations that deal with real life and not a game.
Ok you just went from border line maybe ok, to full fledged sandy va jay jay **** bag. |

Abulurd Boniface
The Scope Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:27:00 -
[160] - Quote
I hope you're doing better and that you will make a complete recovery.
OTOH, if you're an old hand, you know what kind of place it is. It is supremely unforgiving. If you're not up to joining the mosh pit that is the depths of New Eden space, don't log in.
The people who invite you don't know / care / believe you went through a medical episode and they are not supposed to have to care about these things.
We've seen something similar when Mittens took on the depressed guy.
If you're not in shape, don't log in. Nobody will think less of you if your health does not permit you to join, but once you log in and you click the 'Undock' button you're in the zoo, man. And you know this. You've been here before.
Get well, find your strength. Be healthy.
When you're back to your old self, you remember their names. You plot your revenge.
Godspeed! |
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2491
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:32:00 -
[161] - Quote
OP should be thankful that his impaired decision-making skills only led to him losing a couple of pretend spaceships in a silly internet game, rather than say, sending his life savings to a Nigerian bank account. CCP: Not out to ruin your game, out to ruin their game. |

E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
293
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:46:00 -
[162] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Molica Iwaira wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Raxlaa wrote:
So perhaps, instead, if you are in an emotionally sensitive situation you shouldn't expose yourself to opportunities or risks that may hurt you emotionally. Especially where pre-warned and forearmed with the knowledge a situation may actually turn bad.
Utter nonsense. What you ask for requires not only a sense of personal responsibility, but also actual self-awareness. How dare you expect people to play a video game like they have two brain cells to rub together. Also, sorry for exploding any sarcasm meters with the above  . More seriously, there are a lot of EVE players like the OP. Player who don't quite grasp the fact that EVE is an "emotional free for all" type game and thus not the best choice of past times for people who are overly sensitive (or who believe in some kind of false "e-honor"). Sensitive folks playing EVE is like being a member of the International Women's Health Coalition playing Grand Theft Auto (and being offended by all the Hoe stomping). Hmm... So we are supposed to expect from someone who has lost everything he accumulated over the years in game (no doubt being careless, but partly because he was trusting his friend) to be emotionally unaffected....oh and btw especially when he has been fighting cancer for four years? Rocks to be in your shoes and not his, eh? Well, I don't know if you have rubbed your own cells together when you made that claim! And yes, your sarcasm meter went off the charts. This would require there to be two cells to rub together. Claiming jenn even had one would be showing great generosity. In the time I've been watching him post now, which is a while now, I can honestly say, he has much more brain capacity than you give him credit for, but that's beside the point now isn't it. Attempting to discredit the man instead of the point he makes only demonstrates that you have no argument against the point he makes. His intelligence is invalid in this case, but if you are unable to argue against the point he has made, then aren't you demonstrating less intelligence than him as a result? LOL I donGÇÖt have to discredit him. Every time he post he leaves something behind.... A BAD IMPRESSION. He lacks the ability to see any topic from any perspective other than his own. (This leads to a multitude of social and psychological disorders that I donGÇÖt have the time or desire to go into)
Should you care to take the time to research you will find jenn and his crew have locked thread after thread simply by trolling because he doesnGÇÖt agree with the op. They start very few post yet never fail to get them locked. Very clear pattern and I guess itGÇÖs easier to lock a thread than to give the trolls a vacation. Must generate more paper work or something. |

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
2164
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:51:00 -
[163] - Quote
I can understand losing a carrier to awox, but two? Curious how that happened.
I can't imagine a scenario that didn't involve OP making one or more mistakes, including misplaced trust in complete strangers.
I'm betting this happened during early days of being in the corp too, i.e. you don't move your stuff on day one, nor risk two carriers.
The best policy is to never move all your stuff, and buy new stuff at your destination. When you do move your stuff, you always leave some stuff behind to recover from such events. Consider anything not in your hangar in a NPC station as already lost.
Unfortunate that it was a hard lesson to learn. |

Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
12
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:52:00 -
[164] - Quote
Baaldor wrote:Psyrus Baine wrote:You go ahead and justify what ever you want. I have met people like you in the past. You never want any side of a story to ever put you in a bad light or want to believe that they are nothing but the best. I am glad I make you put up post after post to justify yourself.
If you truly was this great eve player then you wouldn't have to justify the actions of a person pretending to be a friend of the people that was in the channel or even reply to a post that never once mentioned your name directly or anyone's name at that. Even the people that was there have stated here they even thought they was on good terms with each other.
So please post some more I think its funny to watch you keep trying to justify yours and his actions. Please post some more because I then know I am getting under your skin. I hope you go to bed at night thinking about what else you can post on this thread that was not even for you in the first place. Glad I could help you feel like your a good player because your are obviously a pathetic person in real life. Go take a trip to the hospital and make fun of the people there that are having to deal with any kind of chemo treatments I would love to read about you being tossed from a window. SO shut your mouth go ask your mom if you can suckle for a bit so you can feel better about not knowing what it is like to understand about situations that deal with real life and not a game. Ok you just went from border line maybe ok, to full fledged sandy va jay jay **** bag.
I am happy to be full fledged then, your opinion wasn't much of one in the first place. I am glad you posted , just posting in the thread after the vile bs started flowing just shows how detached you are from a game and real life.
Where did I ever mentioned anyones name, If you don't know me why are you even posting on this thread in the first place. Read what I posted in the beginning I was reaching out to people I have played with, I am sorry I don't have my eve address full of all the people I have played with, Never needed it when using vent or TS over the years, All the forums from all the people I have played with are not there anymore that's why I came here. You don't like it then that's just to bad isn't it.
Go post your own thread if you don't like what I wanted to say to those I was trying to reach in the first place. I definitely will play again and don't be surprised if someday I leave another thread reminding you of it was me when revenge happens. Try just for a minute to not think about eve I know its gonna be hard for the ones spewing all the vile because that is what you want to hide behind. This was directed to the people OUTSIDE the game that play not about the game itself just putting into context the game and how real life can stop someone from enjoying a game, how is that hard to understand.
No one tried to make you personally feel guilty but if you do and are trying to defend that then that is your personal demons your dealing with because I have real life demons to deal with. Good luck to anyone that wanted to troll my post and make it about them and not about the real life issue it was intended for. And I am grateful to those that understand and hope the best for you in and out of the game. Kindness and good deeds never get overlooked and are always rewarded. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1781
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:57:00 -
[165] - Quote
E-2C Hawkeye wrote: LOL I donGÇÖt have to discredit him. Every time he post he leaves something behind.... A BAD IMPRESSION. He lacks the ability to see any topic from any perspective other than his own. (This leads to a multitude of social and psychological disorders that I donGÇÖt have the time or desire to go into)
Should you care to take the time to research you will find jenn and his crew have locked thread after thread simply by trolling because he doesnGÇÖt agree with the op. They start very few post yet never fail to get them locked. Very clear pattern and I guess itGÇÖs easier to lock a thread than to give the trolls a vacation. Must generate more paper work or something.
And yet, this one is still going. Not as clear a pattern than as you think. Although, I fully expect this thread to be locked, but I expected that long before Jenn posted. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
836
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:00:00 -
[166] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:KuroVolt wrote:Having cancer doesnt make you immune to making bad choices in a videogame. You'll change your mind if you ever get it. I'm starting a permanent war against NC. I'll pay the war fee and everyone is welcome to join to kill them in Empire. I'll post details shortly. The person that gets the most kills against them each week will get 1 billion isk. I'll arrange the prize with a trusted third party starting with 4 billion for the next month.
could we have this war aginst goons as well, I think they are the root of all this crap ... |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1625
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:02:00 -
[167] - Quote
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:LOL I donGÇÖt have to discredit him. Every time he post he leaves something behind.... A BAD IMPRESSION. He lacks the ability to see any topic from any perspective other than his own. (This leads to a multitude of social and psychological disorders that I donGÇÖt have the time or desire to go into)
Should you care to take the time to research you will find jenn and his crew have locked thread after thread simply by trolling because he doesnGÇÖt agree with the op. They start very few post yet never fail to get them locked. Very clear pattern and I guess itGÇÖs easier to lock a thread than to give the trolls a vacation. Must generate more paper work or something. yo yo yo whatchoo sayin' about jenn's crew dog, you don't wanna be messin' with us man, you gonna regret 'dis, aight, just back out now dog |

Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:09:00 -
[168] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:KuroVolt wrote:Having cancer doesnt make you immune to making bad choices in a videogame. You'll change your mind if you ever get it. I'm starting a permanent war against NC. I'll pay the war fee and everyone is welcome to join to kill them in Empire. I'll post details shortly. The person that gets the most kills against them each week will get 1 billion isk. I'll arrange the prize with a trusted third party starting with 4 billion for the next month. could we have this war aginst goons as well, I think they are the root of all this crap OMG GOONS CAUSE CANCER !!!
(seriously, you should see a psychologist if you're so stuck on the goons) |

Xavier Holtzman
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
63
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:14:00 -
[169] - Quote
What exactly were the "real world ramifications" that resulted from this con job? -x |

Frying Doom
2598
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:25:00 -
[170] - Quote
This thread is exactly why EvE will never die.
I think it shows well that while some people pretend to be the scum of the universe, some of the players in this game are the scum of the earth.
Telling a cancer patient to HTFU. Pathetic
How about some of you people try acting like humans. Yes he lost 2 carriers in EvE and that does happen but that does not mean you need to act like ass hats on the forums.
EvE will never die because no one else wants this scum. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
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Averzion Fanity
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:26:00 -
[171] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:I love when some illiterate posts on a forum claiming to be an member of the medical establishment. Or any other number of professions for that matter. srsly nub wen u write liek dis no1 take you for reals Mr Epeen 
Exactly my point, guy. My "profession" is as relevant as his "condition". |

AveryFaneActual
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
8
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:31:00 -
[172] - Quote
Kimsemus wrote:Psyrus Baine wrote:You know I haven't played eve in over 2 years because I been in the hospital fighting colon cancer and going through chemo treatments, I been in remission for the last 4 weeks and decided to join a active corp and play some eve while feeling partially human before having to go back in a couple weeks for more tests in hope it stays gone. .
I hope the people that decided it would be fun to Conn me into joining them so they could gank both my characters carriers with all my stuff loaded for moving into a new corp I hope your proud of yourself for taking the opportunity of someone being drugged up with not as much caution as I would normally take. Due to not really thinking about much except trying to get my mind off of having to go through chemo treatments again for a cheap kill. God help you for that.
There is plenty of old eve players that know me and can confirm my being in and out the hospital for the last 4 years. I hope killing my carriers and blowing up my stuff was worth the thrill. To those of you who know and or knew me I wish I could of played just a little longer before ending up back in the hospital but I don't have the drive to fight being conned in a game and deal with reality. To my friends that still do play and remember me I hope you fly safe and maybe if god is on my side I might be back to play again someday. Hello everyone -- I am the FC that organized this drop on him, with invaluable help from one of my corpmates that will remain anon. OP -- I don't regret killing you. At all. I don't regret organizing your cynos, I don't regret organizing the pilots that hot dropped you, I don't regret calling your archon then your thanatos then popping your wrecks. I don't regret it because it's not personal, it's just business. When you were talking in random channels asking for cynos from people you didn't know, I knew you had to pop. When we lit your cyno in the wrong system, in Asa instead of Hasateem you jumped anyway, without questioning it. When you jumped your Archon in a full 30 seconds before your Thanatos into 15 hostile carriers who IMMEDIATELY tackled and began killing you, you jumped your Thanatos in anyway. None of us lied to you, cheated you, or did anything uncouth. You simply asked for a cyno, we gave you one. You just got more than you planned. IF you are sick IRL, I hope you get better, make a full recovery, and live life to the fullest. IF you are sick then we did you a favor -- get off EVE, get out from the front of the PC, spend time with loved ones, or out in the sun, and all that. IF you aren't actually sick -- shame on you. I really don't think you are. I don't want to come off as rude, but I actually think you were just careless and lazy. If you want to try and sit on the forums and take the **** out of me for killing you, feel free. But I didn't kill you, I didn't kill a guy with cancer, I didn't kick your dog or break into your kitchen and eat the chocolate out of your Neapolitan ice cream. I killed your carriers, on your toon, in EVE. Remember that.
But either way I don't feel one ounce of guilt over what I did, and I take full responsibility for it. As I said before. It's just business man. o7 Battle report for reference: https://killboard.ncdot.co.uk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=320519Youtube video by Apollo: http://youtu.be/b7CCZuSWSyk
I'm sorry, actually...
I'm sorry I couldn't log on to join in.
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Anomaly One
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:32:00 -
[173] - Quote
This thread should been locked from the first post. |

Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
219
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:36:00 -
[174] - Quote
Awesome thread. Would read again. Thanks for the tears. Inappropriate signature removed. CCP Spitfire |

Tragedy
The Creepshow
114
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:42:00 -
[175] - Quote
Why do so many people bring their RL crap into these whine posts like it matters one goddamn iota in this online video game? If you listened to all these whine posts, apparently 50% of eve players are disease ridden shut its. Hey wait a sec...
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Winston19 Smith84
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:45:00 -
[176] - Quote
Thanks for the tears, loved it. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1629
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:47:00 -
[177] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:Telling a cancer patient to HTFU. Pathetic who's telling a cancer patient to htfu? no, these people are telling a guy who lost some carriers to htfu. big difference. |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2083
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:48:00 -
[178] - Quote
Invest in my spaceship hedge fund tia. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1783
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:48:00 -
[179] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:This thread is exactly why EvE will never die.
I think it shows well that while some people pretend to be the scum of the universe, some of the players in this game are the scum of the earth.
Telling a cancer patient to HTFU. Pathetic
How about some of you people try acting like humans. Yes he lost 2 carriers in EvE and that does happen but that does not mean you need to act like ass hats on the forums.
EvE will never die because no one else wants this scum.
No one's telling a cancer patient to HTFU. We're telling an EVE player who claims to have cancer to HTFU. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

AveryFaneActual
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
8
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:49:00 -
[180] - Quote
Harry Forever wrote:thats why I play solo in this game, I'm a bit low on cash but thought to send you a million right away... your story sounded honest
looks like northern coalition are just the same douchebags as the other big alliances out there... hope you make it back and get your revenge
NC. killed a guy in EVE. That's all there is to it. He wasn't joining us at all. No one doing dumb **** like this would get in. +1 trolling I reckon. |
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AveryFaneActual
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
8
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:50:00 -
[181] - Quote
[quote=Jenn aSide]Quote:[quote=Molica Iwaira]
A few days ago, another dude posted some similar nonsense because he was some kind of American military service veteran (which means he's just supposed to get his way in a video game made by and Icelandic company lol). It was equally dumb.
People trying to find some kind of way to leverage real life hardship into in game sympathy of some sort is so far beyond pitiful there isn't yet an English word for it. Well there wasn't till now.
So remember kids, don't do a Psyrus Baine.
Can I see said link?
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
1783
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:51:00 -
[182] - Quote
Anyway, this thread is now about polar bears. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Tragedy
The Creepshow
114
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:55:00 -
[183] - Quote
Kimsemus wrote:Psyrus Baine wrote:You know I haven't played eve in over 2 years because I been in the hospital fighting colon cancer and going through chemo treatments, I been in remission for the last 4 weeks and decided to join a active corp and play some eve while feeling partially human before having to go back in a couple weeks for more tests in hope it stays gone. .
I hope the people that decided it would be fun to Conn me into joining them so they could gank both my characters carriers with all my stuff loaded for moving into a new corp I hope your proud of yourself for taking the opportunity of someone being drugged up with not as much caution as I would normally take. Due to not really thinking about much except trying to get my mind off of having to go through chemo treatments again for a cheap kill. God help you for that.
There is plenty of old eve players that know me and can confirm my being in and out the hospital for the last 4 years. I hope killing my carriers and blowing up my stuff was worth the thrill. To those of you who know and or knew me I wish I could of played just a little longer before ending up back in the hospital but I don't have the drive to fight being conned in a game and deal with reality. To my friends that still do play and remember me I hope you fly safe and maybe if god is on my side I might be back to play again someday. Hello everyone -- I am the FC that organized this drop on him, with invaluable help from one of my corpmates that will remain anon. OP -- I don't regret killing you. At all. I don't regret organizing your cynos, I don't regret organizing the pilots that hot dropped you, I don't regret calling your archon then your thanatos then popping your wrecks. I don't regret it because it's not personal, it's just business. When you were talking in random channels asking for cynos from people you didn't know, I knew you had to pop. When we lit your cyno in the wrong system, in Asa instead of Hasateem you jumped anyway, without questioning it. When you jumped your Archon in a full 30 seconds before your Thanatos into 15 hostile carriers who IMMEDIATELY tackled and began killing you, you jumped your Thanatos in anyway. None of us lied to you, cheated you, or did anything uncouth. You simply asked for a cyno, we gave you one. You just got more than you planned. IF you are sick IRL, I hope you get better, make a full recovery, and live life to the fullest. IF you are sick then we did you a favor -- get off EVE, get out from the front of the PC, spend time with loved ones, or out in the sun, and all that. IF you aren't actually sick -- shame on you. I really don't think you are. I don't want to come off as rude, but I actually think you were just careless and lazy. If you want to try and sit on the forums and take the **** out of me for killing you, feel free. But I didn't kill you, I didn't kill a guy with cancer, I didn't kick your dog or break into your kitchen and eat the chocolate out of your Neapolitan ice cream. I killed your carriers, on your toon, in EVE. Remember that.
But either way I don't feel one ounce of guilt over what I did, and I take full responsibility for it. As I said before. It's just business man. o7 Battle report for reference: https://killboard.ncdot.co.uk/?a=kill_related&kll_id=320519Youtube video by Apollo: http://youtu.be/b7CCZuSWSyk Eat the chocolate out of his neopolitan ice cream?! That you even thought of that is proof of how despicable you truly are! |

Tragedy
The Creepshow
114
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:58:00 -
[184] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:This thread is exactly why EvE will never die.
I think it shows well that while some people pretend to be the scum of the universe, some of the players in this game are the scum of the earth.
Telling a cancer patient to HTFU. Pathetic
How about some of you people try acting like humans. Yes he lost 2 carriers in EvE and that does happen but that does not mean you need to act like ass hats on the forums.
EvE will never die because no one else wants this scum. Wheres the proof? We get at least 1 person a week coming on here saying they've got some sort of RL health issue and someone treated them mean in game, like the two are even remoteley related at all.
. |

PotatoOverdose
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
378
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:59:00 -
[185] - Quote
Step 1) Play a multiplayer game where you directly compete with other people.
Step 2) Experience a loss in a multiplayer game.
Step 3) Whine on the forums how it's unfair, the people that beat you in a videogame are evil people in real life, and claim that you have cancer (which is completely tangential to everything else).
Op is a classy dude. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3049
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:02:00 -
[186] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:LOL I donGÇÖt have to discredit him. Every time he post he leaves something behind.... A BAD IMPRESSION. He lacks the ability to see any topic from any perspective other than his own. (This leads to a multitude of social and psychological disorders that I donGÇÖt have the time or desire to go into)
Should you care to take the time to research you will find jenn and his crew have locked thread after thread simply by trolling because he doesnGÇÖt agree with the op. They start very few post yet never fail to get them locked. Very clear pattern and I guess itGÇÖs easier to lock a thread than to give the trolls a vacation. Must generate more paper work or something. yo yo yo whatchoo sayin' about jenn's crew dog, you don't wanna be messin' with us man, you gonna regret 'dis, aight, just back out now dog
*Jenn jumps up to hold Benny back*
Naw dawg, don't do it, you just got out of the joint, one more strike and that's it's with your CONCORD record, he's not worth it!
(lol CONCORD, I keeps it both real and in-game).
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3049
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:04:00 -
[187] - Quote
AveryFaneActual wrote:[quote=Jenn aSide] Quote:[quote=Molica Iwaira]
A few days ago, another dude posted some similar nonsense because he was some kind of American military service veteran (which means he's just supposed to get his way in a video game made by and Icelandic company lol). It was equally dumb.
People trying to find some kind of way to leverage real life hardship into in game sympathy of some sort is so far beyond pitiful there isn't yet an English word for it. Well there wasn't till now.
So remember kids, don't do a Psyrus Baine. Can I see said link?
He went back and deleted,, but I think you can still find it on EVE search maybe (I know Tippia did). It was epicly pitiful. |

Dalto Bane
Knights of the Posing Meat The Obsidian Front
13
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:08:00 -
[188] - Quote
I get this tingly feeling that this is some elaborate hoax to make these "AWOXERS" to be some type of super evil crew that would cause a few to go full on white knight and wardec them, funneling in juicy killmails without expense, BUT if this is all legit and on the up and up, then I am sorry that this happened to you OP...
However, you know the rules, that rules that was breed into you the first moments you logged on to Eve. Let me remind you-
-Do not fly/undock a ship that you can't afford to lose -Do not haul Plex in your Cargo -Always watch local -Never Autopilot etc,etc,etc
But there are three that are most important- RL comes first, Eve Online is a game, enjoy it, and Trust Nobody!
Good Luck out there OP!
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AveryFaneActual
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
8
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:09:00 -
[189] - Quote
Psyrus Baine wrote:You go ahead and justify what ever you want. I have met people like you in the past. You never want any side of a story to ever put you in a bad light or want to believe that they are nothing but the best. I am glad I make you put up post after post to justify yourself.
You're still here? |

AveryFaneActual
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
8
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:11:00 -
[190] - Quote
OTOH OP: You can actually say "I was there".
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Frying Doom
2598
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:12:00 -
[191] - Quote
Tragedy wrote:Frying Doom wrote:This thread is exactly why EvE will never die.
I think it shows well that while some people pretend to be the scum of the universe, some of the players in this game are the scum of the earth.
Telling a cancer patient to HTFU. Pathetic
How about some of you people try acting like humans. Yes he lost 2 carriers in EvE and that does happen but that does not mean you need to act like ass hats on the forums.
EvE will never die because no one else wants this scum. Wheres the proof? We get at least 1 person a week coming on here saying they've got some sort of RL health issue and someone treated them mean in game, like the two are even remoteley related at all. . So your opinion is it is better to be an ass hat to everyone on these forums, incase someone is lying.
Like I said EvE will never die, as it has players no one else would want. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Frying Doom
2598
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:14:00 -
[192] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Frying Doom wrote:This thread is exactly why EvE will never die.
I think it shows well that while some people pretend to be the scum of the universe, some of the players in this game are the scum of the earth.
Telling a cancer patient to HTFU. Pathetic
How about some of you people try acting like humans. Yes he lost 2 carriers in EvE and that does happen but that does not mean you need to act like ass hats on the forums.
EvE will never die because no one else wants this scum. No one's telling a cancer patient to HTFU. We're telling an EVE player who claims to have cancer to HTFU. And you see no problem with this? Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
985
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:18:00 -
[193] - Quote
If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. The Tears Must Flow |

Marsha Mallow
16
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:18:00 -
[194] - Quote
Psyrus Baine wrote:Expect to be treated as a person joining a corp or an alliance would ever be treated. You log in tomorrow and everyone decides for laughs to blow you up that would be OK with you. This is the core of the issue and has nothing to do with Psyrus' illness or behaviour/attitude on the forums.
- Psyrus, after a long break logged in and asked in a public Rionnag Alba channel [note, RA not NCdot] to join a corp with people he knew
- In the interim RA left the alliance and apparently failed to inform him (?) which might in all fairness be a result of doing a non forum app during transit from the alliance, but that's hardly his fault
- Even a long term active player might:
a) not notice the corp had left the alliance in the interim b) assume they would retain standings for a while c) assume channel settings would kick him/others if a reset had been made d) assume potential recruits would be not be actively targeted by members of common channels [remember recruits cannot see standings, so everyone will appear as neut/red etc]
- He asked for a cyno in the RA (?) channel a few days later and was ganked by the alliance he thought he was joining, because NCdot members were still sat in channel. Or perhaps he was in an NCdot channel, derp.
Apparently a recruit sitting in a former ally channel is an appropriate target? <---- That is the bit to pay attention to, and/or question.
Given his RL issues, it's pretty understandable Psyrus would be upset. Even if he expresses it poorly, and focuses on his real life issues rather than the fact he was duped by people he should reasonably be able to expect not to do so. Especially when you consider he told RA his situation.
GreGh Rakrot posted an explanation here along with the rather condescending advice not to try to get sympathy or understanding on GD. Well, why not resolve it privately then, so he doesn't have to resort to GD? GreGh named Aussie Willy as an NCDot member who abused his position in channel to gain intel. It sounds very much like an RA f up, so why not just take responsibility and sort it? Even if he is wrong in part, doesn't make RA or NCDot look good either.
And to all of the people replying with "welcome to eve" etc, you can spout that at rookies (you might perceive this guy as one, but he has a valid complaint imo), but not with large alliances which supposedly pride themselves on not griefing recruits, and having solid recruitment practices, with their own set of conventions. Some of which even involve, courtesy, common sense and oh god, civility. Some involve trolling, hazing and griefing. You can't drift between the two when it suits either through incompetence or boredom. Common sense check: Any corp on it's way out might expect standings issues and inactive members stuck; it's just a normal occurence with nullsec blocks. All it takes normally is to send internal mails, advise recruits/update pub channel MOTD and actually speak to recruits loitering in your public channels rather than let hostiles troll them.
The later posts by Kimsemus make it clear that this guy was perceived as a valid target. Which tbh, is a bit surprising. The only large nullsec block I can recall who proudly attack, scam and troll recruits and/or gleefully shoot blues are ebil Gewnies. I thought ex-Tri and Bobbits defined themselves as distinct from the derty bees by their elityness and honour(e). And other questionable claims of superiority. RA applicants (and perhaps NCdot) might well be interested to note they are unsafe in public and recruitment channels because of the, well. Scum?
This could have been resolved with a simple apology by RA to Psyrus since it is clearly in part a misunderstanding. No matter how unreasonable he is being, or how badly he argues the point, if general public/recruitment channels are used to target people, it's an interesting reflection on the entities they are joining. Aussie Willy soundsba **** tbh for sitting in a former corp's public channel then passing on intel to mislead and gank, and the FC was probably a cretin.
Carry on missing the point GD. All the best Psyrus, IRL and ingame! Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717 |

Kimsemus
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
109
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:32:00 -
[195] - Quote
Marsha Mallow wrote:Words
Allow me to retort.
Here is the precise chat log from the RA channel:
n++[ 2013.10.14 19:44:39 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD: If you want to join please register @ Rionnag Alba Forums, then CLICK HERE to go to our recruitment board. Make sure to use our reqruitment questionnaire if not otherwise advised. Thank you and Welcome! n++[ 2013.10.15 05:24:19 ] Psyrus Baine > someone open a cyno for me in Hasateem please so i can put in my app and get things rolling please n++[ 2013.10.15 05:25:37 ] NCDOT GUY > can you wait while I get a few supers loged in please n++[ 2013.10.15 05:25:47 ] Psyrus Baine > np n++[ 2013.10.15 05:26:28 ] Psyrus Baine > my rolls are up on this toon Draben still has some time left on his rolls n++[ 2013.10.15 05:26:42 ] Psyrus Baine > bringing both them now though n++[ 2013.10.15 05:32:43 ] NCDOT GUY > how long till you ready n++[ 2013.10.15 05:32:56 ] Psyrus Baine > ready now n++[ 2013.10.15 05:33:05 ] Psyrus Baine > its only 1 jump for me n++[ 2013.10.15 05:33:07 ]NCDOT GUY > moving cyno n++[ 2013.10.15 05:33:21 ] Psyrus Baine > Draben Enforcer n++[ 2013.10.15 05:33:25 ] Psyrus Baine > and this guy n++[ 2013.10.15 05:41:32 ] NCDOT GUY> nearly there n++[ 2013.10.15 05:41:53 ] Psyrus Baine > k n++[ 2013.10.15 05:45:08 ] NCDOT GUY > Zeph Xurion gang please n++[ 2013.10.15 05:48:22 ] Psyrus Baine > wtf
That is the entirety of what was said to the guy. So you explain to me where he was lied to?
He asked for a cyno, and we provided one. The NCDOT GUY was in NCDOT, and there were RA guys in channel so explain to me how exactly he was duped? Do you see anywhere at all where he was scammed or lied to?
Of course not, because he wasn't. He asked for a cyno, we gave him one. It was so obvious what alliance and what toons it was from, it would be like me asking for a cyno in a mixed channel, having a good light it, and then jumping to it. Literally no different.
So you can carry on and white knight him all you want, there was literally zero deception. Cyno up, he jumped, and we killed him. As I explained several times in earlier post, he did not scout, he ignored the fact it was in the wrong system, and after we engaged his archon he still jumped his second carrier in. How is that on us?
So just like the OP, you can call us cretins, jerks, goons, whatever. I have not attacked the OP at all, and I have CLEARLY explained what happened in detail, unlike the OP whom regressed to using constant personal attacks and emotional appeals. Are you SURE you're rooting for the right team here? Or are you just being obtuse? Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is. |

Powers Sa
691
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:34:00 -
[196] - Quote
Hey look, a feel good thread that doesn't involve my alliance. Better post in it. lol |

Ra Jackson
the unified Negative Ten.
252
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:39:00 -
[197] - Quote
Frying Doom wrote:Like I said EvE will never die, as it has players no one else would want.
There are asshats in every online game. If I have to tell you that maybe you should start with Counterstrike or some other shooter before you hop onto an MMO where there are many more asshats at once that want to ruin your day. It's usually not personal, and if it is you probably pissed someone off. So, either way, whining about it will only make you look terrible. |

Powers Sa
691
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:44:00 -
[198] - Quote
I like how it takes them 4 whole minutes to kill 2 carriers. lmao a+ lol |

Marsha Mallow
17
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:44:00 -
[199] - Quote
Kimsemus wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:Words Allow me to retort. Here is the precise chat log from the RA channel:
Continue
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717 |

Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
19
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:46:00 -
[200] - Quote
Kimsemus wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:Words Allow me to retort. Here is the precise chat log from the RA channel: n++[ 2013.10.14 19:44:39 ] EVE System > Channel MOTD: If you want to join please register @ Rionnag Alba Forums, then CLICK HERE to go to our recruitment board. Make sure to use our reqruitment questionnaire if not otherwise advised. Thank you and Welcome! n++[ 2013.10.15 05:24:19 ] Psyrus Baine > someone open a cyno for me in Hasateem please so i can put in my app and get things rolling please n++[ 2013.10.15 05:25:37 ] Aussie Willy > can you wait while I get a few supers loged in please n++[ 2013.10.15 05:25:47 ] Psyrus Baine > np n++[ 2013.10.15 05:26:28 ] Psyrus Baine > my rolls are up on this toon Draben still has some time left on his rolls n++[ 2013.10.15 05:26:42 ] Psyrus Baine > bringing both them now though n++[ 2013.10.15 05:32:43 ] Aussie Willy > how long till you ready n++[ 2013.10.15 05:32:56 ] Psyrus Baine > ready now n++[ 2013.10.15 05:33:05 ] Psyrus Baine > its only 1 jump for me n++[ 2013.10.15 05:33:07 ] Aussie Willy> moving cyno n++[ 2013.10.15 05:33:21 ] Psyrus Baine > Draben Enforcer n++[ 2013.10.15 05:33:25 ] Psyrus Baine > and this guy n++[ 2013.10.15 05:41:32 ] Aussie Willy> nearly there n++[ 2013.10.15 05:41:53 ] Psyrus Baine > k n++[ 2013.10.15 05:45:08 ] Aussie Willy> Zeph Xurion gang please n++[ 2013.10.15 05:48:22 ] Psyrus Baine > wtf
That is the entirety of what was said to the guy. So you explain to me where he was lied to? He asked for a cyno, and we provided one. The NCDOT GUY was in NCDOT, and there were RA guys in channel so explain to me how exactly he was duped? Do you see anywhere at all where he was scammed or lied to? Of course not, because he wasn't. He asked for a cyno, we gave him one. It was so obvious what alliance and what toons it was from, it would be like me asking for a cyno in a mixed channel, having a good light it, and then jumping to it. Literally no different. So you can carry on and white knight him all you want, there was literally zero deception. Cyno up, he jumped, and we killed him. As I explained several times in earlier post, he did not scout, he ignored the fact it was in the wrong system, and after we engaged his archon he still jumped his second carrier in. How is that on us? So just like the OP, you can call us cretins, jerks, goons, whatever. I have not attacked the OP at all, and I have CLEARLY explained what happened in detail, unlike the OP whom regressed to using constant personal attacks and emotional appeals. Are you SURE you're rooting for the right team here? Or are you just being obtuse?
Fixed the above missing name and if he is the ceo then you show a sad way of being a leader even to a corp that you called a friend.
Nice of you to make it look like this is the only thing that took place. Aussie Willy was in on the conversation from me joining the entire time in the channel. You can spin it any way you want he was perceived as a friend to R A the entire time and even joked around that night for a long while.
So please tell all the facts and like I have said before stop trying to justify a scum bag perceiving to be not only R A friend but mine as well when he offered to help. Even stating he was mission running in Empire space that night and said he would log a alt on to open a cyno.
People do have other things to do and I waited for him not expecting for him to be a piece of crap portraying as a friend. I have been in former BoB corps where everyone showed allot respect when perceiving them as a friend. So go ahead and spin it how ever you want you are the same scum that likes to prey on people that trust honor worthy corps and alliances. So your defense just justifies how guilty you are for trolling a honorable corps recruitment channel and pretending to be their friend even when they left you on good terms and left no reason for you to prey on any of their recruits. |
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Kimsemus
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
113
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:46:00 -
[201] - Quote
Marsha Mallow wrote:Kimsemus wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:Words Allow me to retort. Here is the precise chat log from the RA channel: Continue
Oh, I see your implication now. Because you're in a PUBLIC channel you have the expectancy that everyone there is 100% friendly to you.
That logic is awful, and I've noticed you have no retort to the rest of my post because you now know what was actually said. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is. |

Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
19
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:50:00 -
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Aussie Willy was in R A recruitment channel not in a NcDot channel. Keep telling us more lies to try cover your self. Your just pathetic piece of crap. Im sure the only perceived friends you have is in a internet spaceship game because people in real life dont have a problem telling the truth about a game. |

Psyrus Baine
The SMITE Brotherhood
19
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:53:00 -
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Tell us how else is a person to communicate to a corp or alliance thats not joined them yet. Spin it all you want R A thought of Aussie Willy as a friend and he abused that. There is no other way to spin it. You can atleast admit Aussie Willy used his so called friendship with R A to go after their recruits. |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
28
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:53:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:That post actually highlights my point quite nicely. Other people will see what I'm talking about, but you likely won't, and I'm not going to argue with you on this one because... well, you won't defer, and it would be a waste of my time. In any case, this thread isn't about you or me or Anslo or anyone, and I'm still waiting for this definition of 'mean' and how it applies to the posts here so far. You can't take a joke can you? I may have mentioned my autism to you previously.... I forget. I take almost everything literally by default. I'm getting better, and with people I'm close to, like my alliance mates on Mumble, I can tell joking from serious because I know them well enough to have built a rapport.
Cancer ... autism ... wtf is this?! Bring out your DEAAAD!!! #vulva  |

Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
28
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:54:00 -
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Psyrus Baine wrote:Tell us how else is a person to communicate to a corp or alliance thats not joined them yet. Spin it all you want R A thought of Aussie Willy as a friend and he abused that. There is no other way to spin it. You can atleast admit Aussie Willy used his so called friendship with R A to go after their recruits.
That's as common as, "Man, I totally lost my Venture today...."
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1444
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:56:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it.
Err, as would his genitals be This is not a signature. |

Frying Doom
2598
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:56:00 -
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Ra Jackson wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Like I said EvE will never die, as it has players no one else would want. There are asshats in every online game. If I have to tell you that maybe you should start with Counterstrike or some other shooter before you hop onto an MMO where there are many more asshats at once that want to ruin your day. It's usually not personal, and if it is you probably pissed someone off. So, either way, whining about it will only make you look terrible. There is a difference between acting like scum in a game and being scum on a forum but I am sure you will miss that distinction. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1629
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Posted - 2013.10.15 23:01:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Ra Jackson wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Like I said EvE will never die, as it has players no one else would want. There are asshats in every online game. If I have to tell you that maybe you should start with Counterstrike or some other shooter before you hop onto an MMO where there are many more asshats at once that want to ruin your day. It's usually not personal, and if it is you probably pissed someone off. So, either way, whining about it will only make you look terrible. There is a difference between acting like scum in a game and being scum on a forum but I am sure you will miss that distinction. such as bringing up an unrelated RL issue in an unfair attempt to shame a group of people who have played by the rules and done nothing wrong? |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
463

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Posted - 2013.10.15 23:01:00 -
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This thread didn't end well....
Locked. ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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