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Smoking Blunts
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.11.02 13:53:00 -
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these ships needed to come out prenerf'd, just like the black ops did, so ccp can fix them at a later date same as with the black ops....oh wait CCP-áare full of words and no action. We will watch what they are doing, for now
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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:10:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:Aralieus wrote: It really doesn't matter how big the guns you can fit on there, your going to die very quickly with as it stands a very thin tank.... These ships have no role whatsoever and are pointless.
I'll hold judgement until I can try them out. Stealthbombers w/bombs suffers from a lack of HP too, anything can kill them. That doesnt stop alliances from employing them en masse against large sub-capital blobs. Likewise, a smallish gang of T1 frigates can easily kill a battlehip or three if they are lucky enough to catch them unsupported by smaller vessels. I see the new Tier 3 BCs in pretty much the same circumstances, only scaled up.
SB can use Cov-op cloak and use covert cyno to hot drop you out of nowhere, frigs can get by with that scenario purely based on the facts that they have low sigs and and usually more speed and can keep transversal high. In comparison caps cost way more than BS's so most cap pilots will steer away from pulling them out unless they have the support ships to back them up. BS's however are relatively cheap and can be flown solo w/out much economic loss to ones personnel wallet. Jus sayin
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Soporo
Perkone Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:24:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:Whiteknight03 wrote:The torp explosion bonus would have been quite useful and probably necessary on the Naga. I can see the reduction in low slots and all, but why reduce the torp equivalent to tracking when giving other ships in the new lineup a tracking bonus? ^ This ^ I'd honestly rather see the Hybrid Range bonus and a torp explosion velocity bonus if they had to tone down its bonuses (id really like to see both tracking/range bonuses for both systems, I don't like it when caldari boats are pidgeonholed into can use misilles and can use guns, but another boat does them 2x better...)
^ This and this ^ Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken |

Borun Tal
One More Corp
4
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Posted - 2011.11.02 21:26:00 -
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Kalot Sakaar wrote:HIlarious. No drones to the Talos and loses its ability to control range in a fight with the web. Now its completely worthless. Just shows how lost CCP is with Gallente ships. Might as well rename it cannon fodder.
Hey, Gallente ships make GREAT gank fodder... what the heck are you whining about?  |

Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
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Posted - 2011.11.03 02:02:00 -
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Aralieus wrote:
SB can use Cov-op cloak and use covert cyno to hot drop you out of nowhere, frigs can get by with that scenario purely based on the facts that they have low sigs and and usually more speed and can keep transversal high. In comparison caps cost way more than BS's so most cap pilots will steer away from pulling them out unless they have the support ships to back them up. BS's however are relatively cheap and can be flown solo w/out much economic loss to ones personnel wallet. Jus sayin
Invariably though, the stealthbombers will either be in system or be bridged in by Titan. They sometimes even dont bother with the cloak as they warp in on the blob. Depends on the specific tactics in question.
Yes frigs can get by with that scenario purely based on the facts that they have low sigs and and usually more speed and can keep transversal high. Just as the Tier 3 BCs will be able to to do just the same vs capital ships. As for viable targets, sure there is fewer gankable capital taregts around than battleships, but speaking from years of 0.0 experience I'd say that capital pilots sometimes do the stupidest things :) Further, for the largest alliances, mere carriers and dreads are pure expendable assets. |

Zelphinine
OCTAGON Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.11.03 02:17:00 -
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For a moment when I saw that the Naga had 8/8 gun and missile slots and two sets of double weapon bonuses, I thought CCP finally 'got' split weapon hulls.
And now they've removed that and it's ****. Don't even bother releasing it. |

Nimrod Nemesis
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.03 02:24:00 -
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Zelphinine wrote:For a moment when I saw that the Naga had 8/8 gun and missile slots and two sets of double weapon bonuses, I thought CCP finally 'got' split weapon hulls.
And now they've removed that and it's ****. Don't even bother releasing it.
I actually want them to release it as an awful split-weapon platform. The more horrific and useless ships caused by hyrbid and non-heavy-missile shortcomings, the more likely CCP is to take notice of just how bad they are. |

Soporo
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 00:59:00 -
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Quote:The more horrific and useless ships caused by hyrbid and non-heavy-missile shortcomings, the more likely CCP is to take notice of just how bad they are.
Like they paid any attention to the Eagle over the years? One was for sale in Jita the other day, ONE. PvP and PvE's worst, most unused and unpopular HAC since inception remains unchanged, for years, but that's normal here.
People have to understand, there is no "ballance team", I guess when they test it's just a matter of how they feel at the time or how drunk they are, what comes out of it. I get the feeling they all never use missile boats beyond Heavies for pvp or they just have a gang of Huggins painting for them wherever they go.
I wish all the Devs had to PvP in Feroxs (non Projectile fit), Hawks, Eagles, Cruise and Torp Ravens, Rokhs and whatever fail new improperly bonused split bonus Torp boats they create. Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken |

DarkAegix
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.04 01:11:00 -
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The Naga is now loltastic with its split weaponry bonuses. |
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