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The Scum	Posted - 2006.01.30 02:56:00 - [1] I really LOVE the Harpy, so i desided to do some calculations on it. So i calculate how your guns would perform with maxed out skills. This is what i came up with. Enjoy \|---------------------\| \|Small hybrid 150mm T2\| \|---------------------\| Activation Cost: 2.505 Energy Rate Of Fire: 2.975 Sec Damage Modifier: 5.775 Optimal Range: 31.5 Km Accuracy Falloff: 7500 m Trackingspeed/Accuracy: 0.0875 rad/sec \|---------------------\| \|Small hybird 125mm T2\| \|---------------------\| Activation Cost: 1.6125 Energy Rate Of Fire: 2.275 Sec Damage Modifier: 4.2 Optimal Range: 24.75 Km Accuracy Falloff: 6250 m Trackingspeed/Accuracy: 0.10625 rad/sec EVE-Geek damage calculator <- linkage Now correct me if i'm wrong, i used the 'Items Database' as a referal. I'm no math geek eighter so don't smack me in the face and call me a retard. (All calculation are done with ONLY the skills, no implants or damage mods.)
Vertas	Posted - 2006.01.30 03:55:00 - [2] You seem to have left out something because with skills only I can get an optimal of around 64km with iron ammo and 31.5 x 1.6 is not 64. According to my calculations with sharpshooting 5, caldari frig 5 and assault ships 5, your base optimal without implants, modules, or ammo should be around 40.5km, but someone check my math. -Vert
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.01.30 04:41:00 - [3] You're looking at it from a ship with a range bonus, he's giving just the gun stats, without ship bonuses. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
OrangeAfroMan	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:04:00 - [4] looks at 12x damage mod on 280s w/o max skills or damage mods lol Though you do have a faster fire rate.. nice range too..
Vertas	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:37:00 - [5] yeah but he is talking about the harpy :)
Erotic Irony	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:50:00 - [6] You didn't include 75mm II.
Aba Tor	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:20:00 - [7] Some guy (can't remeber his name...) posted that he could shoot at 100km with his harpy with the best ranged ammo... ... A wise man never plays TAG with a RINO
Asurix	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:31:00 - [8] 100km is doable with t2 ammo and tracking comps/enhancers
Eurian	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Aba Tor Some guy (can't remeber his name...) posted that he could shoot at 100km with his harpy with the best ranged ammo... With iron ammo and max skills I have an optimal of 64km, add in perhaps 2 range mods (tracking comp IIs) at 15% apiece (we'll leave out stacking since I dont know that math) and you can get to 84.6km, we will round to 85km..... now for falloff, even at max skills which is +25% of 6000m, so you get 7500.... x2 for double fall off and you get 15km fall off ...add that to 85km and you get 100km. That being said, with 2 active tracking computers and and 2 tracken enhancers (to make up for the stack penalty on the tracking comps) you would be able to hit 100km out with iron ammo and max sharpshooter + trajectory analysis skills. You would not hit very often, and certainly not for much damage, but you COULD do it.
Psym0n	Posted - 2006.01.30 09:15:00 - [10] Edited by: Psym0n on 30/01/2006 09:20:49 i can shoot 69km with 125mm T2 and Spike S ammo, Spike S is the same as antimatter with -3 Kinetic damage and +100% range, -25% tracking (which isnt too bad at 70k in a frig) Caldari Frig l5 (+50% range_ Assault Ships l5 (+50% range_ Sharpshooter l5 (+25% range_ Long Range Targeting l5 (+25% targetting range_ "something" Prediction (fall off bonus) l4 69K Std Range with 125mm + Spike S ammo 6k Falloff 75k with 125mm With the harpy bonus of +100% (Assault ships 5, caldari frig 5) and sharpshooter 5 (25%), and a tracking enhancer T2. 69k, with 150mm T2 i would be looking at 85-95km range witht damage similar to antimatter (-15 poitns of damage with the damage modifyer) Add antoher tracking enhancer thats got to be around 100Km, gonan ne3ed 2 Sensor Booster II's to lock tho, i get 92k lock with 1 SB2
Psym0n	Posted - 2006.01.30 09:16:00 - [11] Originally by: Eurian Originally by: Aba Tor Some guy (can't remeber his name...) posted that he could shoot at 100km with his harpy with the best ranged ammo... With iron ammo and max skills I have an optimal of 64km, add in perhaps 2 range mods (tracking comp IIs) at 15% apiece (we'll leave out stacking since I dont know that math) and you can get to 84.6km, we will round to 85km..... now for falloff, even at max skills which is +25% of 6000m, so you get 7500.... x2 for double fall off and you get 15km fall off ...add that to 85km and you get 100km. That being said, with 2 active tracking computers and and 2 tracken enhancers (to make up for the stack penalty on the tracking comps) you would be able to hit 100km out with iron ammo and max sharpshooter + trajectory analysis skills. You would not hit very often, and certainly not for much damage, but you COULD do it. Iron ammo has the worst damage in teh world, train Tech 2 and get "Spike S" ammo
Aba Tor	Posted - 2006.01.30 09:45:00 - [12] Originally by: Psym0n Edited by: Psym0n on 30/01/2006 09:20:49 i can shoot 69km with 125mm T2 and Spike S ammo, Spike S is the same as antimatter with -3 Kinetic damage and +100% range, -25% tracking (which isnt too bad at 70k in a frig) Caldari Frig l5 (+50% range_ Assault Ships l5 (+50% range_ Sharpshooter l5 (+25% range_ Long Range Targeting l5 (+25% targetting range_ "something" Prediction (fall off bonus) l4 69K Std Range with 125mm + Spike S ammo 6k Falloff 75k with 125mm With the harpy bonus of +100% (Assault ships 5, caldari frig 5) and sharpshooter 5 (25%), and a tracking enhancer T2. 69k, with 150mm T2 i would be looking at 85-95km range witht damage similar to antimatter (-15 poitns of damage with the damage modifyer) Add antoher tracking enhancer thats got to be around 100Km, gonan ne3ed 2 Sensor Booster II's to lock tho, i get 92k lock with 1 SB2 Aba switches trainig to gunnery and pi55es on her missiles... :(( 100km in a frig for great dmg... sht!!!!!!!!!!!!! ... A wise man never plays TAG with a RINO*

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