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NickyYo FrogCorp Holy Frog 374	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:18:00 - [1] - Quote The other day i agreed to a 1v1 fight vargur vs vargur all was going fine and i was tanking, I'm honerable and wouldn't have killed him.. Anyways it ended up with me getting ganked.. 3 other players were able to shoot me.. the killmail says i was killed on behalf off ... but the guy who it was on behalf of ive never shot ever!! or killed him or stole a can... NOTHING! theres no connection at all between me and that character.. Somehow these people got killrights on me through the kill on behalf of someone mechanic... Anyone have any ideas, ive asked many people and they dont know how its possible either.. ..
Cerile Audeles University of Caille Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:22:00 - [2] - Quote https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Kill_rights#Selling_kill_rights It seems you have been asking wrong people. Oh, and in before all the "lol honour" posts.
Mra Rednu Black Watch Guard 421	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:24:00 - [3] - Quote You didn't flip a can or anything by chance ? Also who was this someone ?
Sorao Soreen Section 496 16	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:24:00 - [4] - Quote Cerile Audeles wrote: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Kill_rights#Selling_kill_rights It seems you have been asking wrong people. Oh, and in before all the "lol honour" posts. lol Honour dam you cerile :P
Jove Death EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 113	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:24:00 - [5] - Quote so the procurer you shot the other day didnt activate there KR on you? Which means anyone in that area could have blapped u Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek
NickyYo FrogCorp Holy Frog 374	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:26:00 - [6] - Quote it was honourable, i didnt fit a warp scram lol. Anyways, nope i was docked for a good 1 hour before i agreed to it, i stole nothing at all. it was all planned. The guy who made the killrights available ive never seen before!! it just doesnt make sense... ..
Sipphakta en Gravonere 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 326	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:27:00 - [7] - Quote NickyYo wrote: 3 other players were able to shoot me.. the killmail says i was killed on behalf off ... but the guy who it was on behalf of ive never shot ever!! or killed him or stole a can... NOTHING! theres no connection at all between me and that character.. Who was it "on behalf of"? Can you evemail the link to the killreport to me? I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42
NickyYo FrogCorp Holy Frog 374	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:29:00 - [8] - Quote Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: NickyYo wrote: 3 other players were able to shoot me.. the killmail says i was killed on behalf off ... but the guy who it was on behalf of ive never shot ever!! or killed him or stole a can... NOTHING! theres no connection at all between me and that character.. Who was it "on behalf of"? Can you evemail the link to the killreport to me? I'm not on eve atm so cant check that. I'm at work. though i did search his name yesterday on the killboards and couldnt find any kill at all.. i have 4 kills and before that they were 400 days ago.. ..
Jack Morrison Sinister Spinster Triple Penetration Empire 62	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:32:00 - [9] - Quote I have seen some bugs with the killrights, like you get a notification, but nothing seen in the killrights.....until you suddenly go flashy at hubs/gates. If you think it was a bug - petition it. But be prepared it will take at least a few days until you get a resposne.
Sipphakta en Gravonere 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 326	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:33:00 - [10] - Quote NickyYo wrote: I'm not on eve atm so cant check that. I'm at work. though i did search his name yesterday on the killboards and couldnt find any kill at all.. i have 4 kills and before that they were 400 days ago.. It doesn't need to be a kill, merely aggressing someone in high-sec or aggressing the pod in low-sec will create a kill-right. I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42

Risalo Oramara School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:33:00 - [11] - Quote this guys avatar face... it tickles me
NickyYo FrogCorp Holy Frog 374	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:51:00 - [12] - Quote Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: NickyYo wrote: I'm not on eve atm so cant check that. I'm at work. though i did search his name yesterday on the killboards and couldnt find any kill at all.. i have 4 kills and before that they were 400 days ago.. It doesn't need to be a kill, merely aggressing someone in high-sec or aggressing the pod in low-sec will create a kill-right. i've not done that either m8.. It just doesnt make sense. ..
Cannibal Kane My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire 2533	Posted - 2013.10.17 12:57:00 - [13] - Quote The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time. I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them. Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn. So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS
NickyYo FrogCorp Holy Frog 374	Posted - 2013.10.17 13:09:00 - [14] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time. I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them. Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn. So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior. No need to defend your reply kane, cheers for the reply :) i am infact clueless on this mechanic atm. Because the guy who it was on behalf of did not have kill rights on me inititially becasue ive never done anything to him at all. Thats what i dont get. ..
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 1820	Posted - 2013.10.17 13:14:00 - [15] - Quote NickyYo wrote: Cannibal Kane wrote: The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time. I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them. Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn. So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior. No need to defend your reply kane, cheers for the reply :) i am infact clueless on this mechanic atm. Because the guy who it was on behalf of did not have kill rights on me inititially becasue ive never done anything to him at all. Thats what i dont get. There is a bug of some sort in the KR system where it misreports who the kill was on behalf of. I had this happen the other day. Dunno why or how it happens. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter.

CCP Paradox 1016	Posted - 2013.10.17 13:30:00 - [16] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: NickyYo wrote: Cannibal Kane wrote: The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time. I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them. Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn. So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior. No need to defend your reply kane, cheers for the reply :) i am infact clueless on this mechanic atm. Because the guy who it was on behalf of did not have kill rights on me inititially becasue ive never done anything to him at all. Thats what i dont get. There is a bug of some sort in the KR system where it misreports who the kill was on behalf of. I had this happen the other day. Dunno why or how it happens. I've never seen any bug report or even talk about this, but I am confident that the Killed on Behalf of will always display the original owner of the Kill Right. Someone else may have activated it, but it will always show the owner of the kill right in the kill report. CCP Paradox \| EVE Quality Assurance \| Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox

Velicitia Emergent Avionics 1715	Posted - 2013.10.17 13:36:00 - [17] - Quote NickyYo wrote: it was honourable, i didnt fit a warp scram lol. I do believe this counts as "doing something wrong", no? One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Vol Arm'OOO Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 119	Posted - 2013.10.17 13:57:00 - [18] - Quote NickyYo wrote: , I'm honerable and wouldn't have killed him... I think I found your problem I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Eram Fidard Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 377	Posted - 2013.10.17 14:20:00 - [19] - Quote So you have a short memory Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Sipphakta en Gravonere 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 326	Posted - 2013.10.17 14:21:00 - [20] - Quote Eram Fidard wrote: So you have a short memory A shipkill in low security space doesn't generate a killright. I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42

Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 1820	Posted - 2013.10.17 14:26:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: Domanique Altares wrote: NickyYo wrote: Cannibal Kane wrote: The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time. I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them. Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn. So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior. No need to defend your reply kane, cheers for the reply :) i am infact clueless on this mechanic atm. Because the guy who it was on behalf of did not have kill rights on me inititially becasue ive never done anything to him at all. Thats what i dont get. There is a bug of some sort in the KR system where it misreports who the kill was on behalf of. I had this happen the other day. Dunno why or how it happens. I've never seen any bug report or even talk about this, but I am confident that the Killed on Behalf of will always display the original owner of the Kill Right. Someone else may have activated it, but it will always show the owner of the kill right in the kill report. I'll have to see if I can dig up the KM for you, but I had a fight the other day that had some wonky nonsense in regards to he killright. Normally I pay no attention to such things as I live in lowsec, but this one struck me as odd. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter.
Darkblad Hilfe is like Free Entertainment 47	Posted - 2013.10.17 14:39:00 - [22] - Quote http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19870462 Podkill (aggression is enough for a kill right, anyway) and lesss than 30 days ago. So my question: Does your loss state "On behalf of Havis N Lemmont"? EvE Infolinks-áGÇô Umfangreiche Sammlung von Links mit informationen ++ber EvE, inklusive Guides und Infos von mir selbst
Beekeeper Bob Beekeepers Anonymous 757	Posted - 2013.10.17 15:42:00 - [23] - Quote NickyYo wrote: The other day i agreed to a 1v1 fight vargur vs vargur all was going fine and i was tanking, I'm honerable and wouldn't have killed him.. Anyways it ended up with me getting ganked.. 3 other players were able to shoot me.. the killmail says i was killed on behalf off ... but the guy who it was on behalf of ive never shot ever!! or killed him or stole a can... NOTHING! theres no connection at all between me and that character.. Somehow these people got killrights on me through the kill on behalf of someone mechanic... Anyone have any ideas, ive asked many people and they dont know how its possible either.. Back again Nicky? I thought they perma-banned you last time.... I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:( Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
NickyYo FrogCorp Holy Frog 374	Posted - 2013.10.17 17:27:00 - [24] - Quote The guy who the kill was on behalf was is : Caito Sicarius IT just does'nt make sense. ..
Ziirn Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 11	Posted - 2013.10.17 17:58:00 - [25] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time. I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them. Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn. So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior. Uhm what do I have to do with this? :O edit: You prob just using my name since it's awsome. It's ok!
Smohq Anmirorz State War Academy Caldari State 118	Posted - 2013.10.17 18:15:00 - [26] - Quote NickyYo wrote: The guy who the kill was on behalf was is : Caito Sicarius IT just does'nt make sense. Instead of trying to convince us all and saying it doesn't make sense, could you please just wait until you get home and then put up the links? You will get a much more relevant discussion, I think.
destiny2 Perkone Caldari State 171	Posted - 2013.10.17 18:21:00 - [27] - Quote http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20809916 alls i can see is this from when i searched your KB<
Baggo Hammers 154	Posted - 2013.10.17 18:27:00 - [28] - Quote Anything that criminally flags you creates a killright. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.
Ziirn Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 11	Posted - 2013.10.17 18:28:00 - [29] - Quote http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=20646859 The guy who had a killright on ya. So you def killed him in lowsec but that shouldn't generate a kill right (i believe, correct me if I'm wrong). Maybe you tried going for his pod?
Altessa Post Midnight special super sexy 57	Posted - 2013.10.17 18:39:00 - [30] - Quote Destroying a ship in low sec creates a kill right. To avoid kill rights you must do your pirating in 0.0 On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be. It is amazing that so many people chose to be stupid.



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