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Thomas Hurt
Yan Jung Clique
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:40:00 -
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And not a moment too soon, I say! Finally all of us low-SP newcomers to the game can compete on a level playing field with all the mega-SP goonswarm knuckleheads and trolls.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3749022#post3749022 |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:43:00 -
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That is not RMT.
That is the Somer defense, where adding in fake credits makes it a legit process. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire
2557
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:45:00 -
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Sometimes people just feel like being idiots...
My future wardec list just keep growing. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Feer Truelight
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:45:00 -
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And you had to create another thread about it? EVE Online Fraud Prevention - http://eve-fraud.blogspot.com |
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:46:00 -
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Word is spreading, I see.
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Bernie Nator
4U Services Inc. Upholders
629
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:56:00 -
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Oh hey. Look. Ordinarily I'd call you an idiot, but we've blown up enough of your boats that you know you're an idiot.
Warp a rapier to a bubbled hole where someone is waiting to catch and kill said rapier indeed. |
Thomas Hurt
Yan Jung Clique
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Posted - 2013.10.18 12:59:00 -
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Bernie Nator wrote:Oh hey. Look. Ordinarily I'd call you an idiot, but we've blown up enough of your boats that you know you're an idiot.
Warp a rapier to a bubbled hole where someone is waiting to catch and kill said rapier indeed.
Supercaps should be allowed in Wormholes |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3085
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:00:00 -
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Thomas Hurt? is your middle name "butt"?
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Thomas Hurt
Yan Jung Clique
153
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:01:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Thomas Hurt? is your middle name "butt"?
Sh-sh-shut up |
Calisto Thellere
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:02:00 -
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Feer Truelight wrote:And you had to create another thread about it?
Well considering the original has been moved to a obscure sub forum out of sight, im glad he did as i only found the original thread from the link in this one.
This is awesome though.
BRB setting up an affiliates program and calisto credits |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1668
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:05:00 -
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yeah maybe ccp'll realise just how ridiculous what they've been allowing somer to do is
probably not though |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation The Cursed Few
136
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:07:00 -
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That's completely idiotic. If you're going to post crap like this at least understand the sceme SOMER uses.
With SOMER and Markee Dragon neither of them handle both the money and the ISK. Markee gets the money, SOMER gives out the ISK. Markee gives Somer a small percentage of the GTC sale for their trouble.
If a single person would sell the GTC AND give out the ISK then it would be plain old RMT and thus against the rules.
If you want to show RMT is legal then provide evidence that Markee Dragon and SOMER are in this sceme together with the explicit goal of RMTing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoavH8xbrPE |
Thomas Hurt
Yan Jung Clique
157
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:09:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:That's completely idiotic. If you're going to post crap like this at least understand the sceme SOMER uses. With SOMER and Markee Dragon neither of them handle both the money and the ISK. Markee gets the money, SOMER gives out the ISK. Markee gives Somer a small percentage of the GTC sale for their trouble. If a single person would sell the GTC AND give out the ISK then it would be plain old RMT and thus against the rules. If you want to show RMT is legal then provide evidence that Markee Dragon and SOMER are in this sceme together with the explicit goal of RMTing.
Aaaaand here come the S.O.M.E.R. B-link alts. It was fun being informative to you all while it lasted... |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation The Cursed Few
136
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:13:00 -
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Thomas Hurt wrote:Aaaaand here come the S.O.M.E.R. B-link alts. It was fun being informative to you all while it lasted...
I wish I was a SOMER alt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoavH8xbrPE |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1668
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:13:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:That's completely idiotic. If you're going to post crap like this at least understand the sceme SOMER uses. With SOMER and Markee Dragon neither of them handle both the money and the ISK. Markee gets the money, SOMER gives out the ISK. Markee gives Somer a small percentage of the GTC sale for their trouble. If a single person would sell the GTC AND give out the ISK then it would be plain old RMT and thus against the rules. If you want to show RMT is legal then provide evidence that Markee Dragon and SOMER are in this sceme together with the explicit goal of RMTing. who cares how roundabout the transaction is, somer gets realbuxx for spacebuxx |
Frying Doom
2690
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:18:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:If a single person would sell the GTC AND give out the ISK then it would be plain old RMT and thus against the rules.
If you want to show RMT is legal then provide evidence that Markee Dragon and SOMER are in this sceme together with the explicit goal of RMTing. So if my brother sells the GTC and I give out the isk, then according to you that would not be RMT even if I got a cut of the cash profits as well.
Is Somer receiving Cash for GTC sales and giving out isk? There is only one answer and that is yes.
But apparently it is ok if you call it credits before you convert it to isk, therefore Somer is not RMTing and neither is anyone else. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Plug in Baby
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
12
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:20:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:That's completely idiotic. If you're going to post crap like this at least understand the sceme SOMER uses. With SOMER and Markee Dragon neither of them handle both the money and the ISK. Markee gets the money, SOMER gives out the ISK. Markee gives Somer a small percentage of the GTC sale for their trouble. If a single person would sell the GTC AND give out the ISK then it would be plain old RMT and thus against the rules. If you want to show RMT is legal then provide evidence that Markee Dragon and SOMER are in this sceme together with the explicit goal of RMTing.
Erm isn't doing it through 2 unrelated parties even more like RMT? Think of the transaction between Markee Dragon and SOMER for a minute. Markee is just giving SOMER $.
Anyway if CCP does impose a rule that you need use 2 different names/websites to do it it isn't really a big issue surely?
This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main. |
Bernie Nator
4U Services Inc. Upholders
629
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:30:00 -
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Thomas Hurt wrote:Bernie Nator wrote:Oh hey. Look. Ordinarily I'd call you an idiot, but we've blown up enough of your boats that you know you're an idiot.
Warp a rapier to a bubbled hole where someone is waiting to catch and kill said rapier indeed. Supercaps should be allowed in Wormholes Brb, putting a scanner alt in your wormhole. |
Prince Kobol
1052
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:36:00 -
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Thomas Hurt wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:That's completely idiotic. If you're going to post crap like this at least understand the sceme SOMER uses. With SOMER and Markee Dragon neither of them handle both the money and the ISK. Markee gets the money, SOMER gives out the ISK. Markee gives Somer a small percentage of the GTC sale for their trouble. If a single person would sell the GTC AND give out the ISK then it would be plain old RMT and thus against the rules. If you want to show RMT is legal then provide evidence that Markee Dragon and SOMER are in this sceme together with the explicit goal of RMTing. Aaaaand here come the S.O.M.E.R. B-link alts. It was fun being informative to you all while it lasted...
No it people who have an understanding how it works unlike yourself :) |
Prince Kobol
1052
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:38:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:If a single person would sell the GTC AND give out the ISK then it would be plain old RMT and thus against the rules.
If you want to show RMT is legal then provide evidence that Markee Dragon and SOMER are in this sceme together with the explicit goal of RMTing. So if my brother sells the GTC and I give out the isk, then according to you that would not be RMT even if I got a cut of the cash profits as well. Is Somer receiving Cash for GTC sales and giving out isk? There is only one answer and that is yes. But apparently it is ok if you call it credits before you convert it to isk, therefore Somer is not RMTing and neither is anyone else.
Exactly its credit.
You can not withdrawal this isk, you have to use it on a blink first of which there is no 100% guarantee that you will win it. |
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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
170
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:40:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:
No it people who have an understanding how it works unlike yourself :)
the amount of shill I've seen from you is simply mind-boggling. |
DarkDecay
Real money traders
57
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:41:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Sometimes people just feel like being idiots...
My future wardec list just keep growing.
There are more to dec!
Rare ships for 'raffle' https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=287581&find=unread
Plex for 'raffle' https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=287597&find=unread
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Prince Kobol
1052
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:42:00 -
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Money Makin Mitch wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
No it people who have an understanding how it works unlike yourself :)
the amount of shill I've seen from you is simply mind-boggling.
Lol.. in otherwords you have zero argument and can only try and fail to insult me :)
How about you try and put forward a constructive argument.. |
Calisto Thellere
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:43:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Frying Doom wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:If a single person would sell the GTC AND give out the ISK then it would be plain old RMT and thus against the rules.
If you want to show RMT is legal then provide evidence that Markee Dragon and SOMER are in this sceme together with the explicit goal of RMTing. So if my brother sells the GTC and I give out the isk, then according to you that would not be RMT even if I got a cut of the cash profits as well. Is Somer receiving Cash for GTC sales and giving out isk? There is only one answer and that is yes. But apparently it is ok if you call it credits before you convert it to isk, therefore Somer is not RMTing and neither is anyone else. Exactly its credit. You can not withdrawal this isk, you have to use it on a blink first of which there is no 100% guarantee that you will win it.
Nor is the character lottery 100% guaranteed.
1st guy get 3000 tickets. 2nd guy gets 1 ticket.
Draw is made, who do you think will win statistically?
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Prince Kobol
1052
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:45:00 -
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Calisto Thellere wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Frying Doom wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:If a single person would sell the GTC AND give out the ISK then it would be plain old RMT and thus against the rules.
If you want to show RMT is legal then provide evidence that Markee Dragon and SOMER are in this sceme together with the explicit goal of RMTing. So if my brother sells the GTC and I give out the isk, then according to you that would not be RMT even if I got a cut of the cash profits as well. Is Somer receiving Cash for GTC sales and giving out isk? There is only one answer and that is yes. But apparently it is ok if you call it credits before you convert it to isk, therefore Somer is not RMTing and neither is anyone else. Exactly its credit. You can not withdrawal this isk, you have to use it on a blink first of which there is no 100% guarantee that you will win it. Nor is the character lottery 100% guaranteed. 1st guy get 3000 tickets. 2nd guy gets 1 ticket. Draw is made, who do you think will win statistically?
Unfortunately you are not allowed to raffle characters
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6369&find=unread
17. Lottery style sales are not permitted. Auctions and buyouts are the appropriate method for selling a character.
So your argument is irrelevant. |
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
170
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:45:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Money Makin Mitch wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
No it people who have an understanding how it works unlike yourself :)
the amount of shill I've seen from you is simply mind-boggling. Lol.. in otherwords you have zero argument and can only try and fail to insult me :) How about you try and put forward a constructive argument.. your own willful ignorance and myopic views have done more to insult you than any of us ever will.
*drops mic* |
Prince Kobol
1052
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:46:00 -
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Money Makin Mitch wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Money Makin Mitch wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
No it people who have an understanding how it works unlike yourself :)
the amount of shill I've seen from you is simply mind-boggling. Lol.. in otherwords you have zero argument and can only try and fail to insult me :) How about you try and put forward a constructive argument.. your own willful ignorance and myopic views have done more to insult you than any of us ever will. *drops mic*
Still no argument and more butthurt, please continue |
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
170
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:48:00 -
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he didn't raffle the character. he raffled tickets for an opportunity to bid on the character. the character sale is technically open to everyone in the same manner that Somer's lottos are.
i find it hilarious that you can justify it for Somer but condemn others for the exact same thing. i wonder why you're playing the hypocrite... is there perhaps a conflict of interest we aren't aware of? |
Baali Tekitsu
God Bless My Enemies
62
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:48:00 -
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Thomas Hurt wrote:That's completely idiotic. If you're going to post crap like this at least understand the sceme SOMER uses. With SOMER and Markee Dragon neither of them handle both the money and the ISK. Markee gets the money, SOMER gives out the ISK. Markee gives Somer a small percentage of the GTC sale for their trouble.
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Frying Doom
2701
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Posted - 2013.10.18 13:49:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:
Exactly its credit.
You can not withdrawal this isk, you have to use it on a blink first of which there is no 100% guarantee that you will win it.
Strangely there is a thing called probability. If I enter a sufficient amount of Blinks purchasing 50% of the tickets I will win 50% of the time.
So if I buy 50 GTC and get given my 10 billion blink credits and buy 50% of the tickets in plex lotteries I will win 50% of the time. Now in every lottery there are more isk than the item is worth, I can't remember the amount but it is about 20% loss to the customers.
So now to get these plex I just ask for pay out and recieve about 8 billion isk in plexes
Or I ask for in game isk and Somer takes even more for that so out of my 10 Billion credits I get what 6.5 Billion isk in game?
Explaining it the long way sounds more like money laundering than RMT to be honest, Somer has taken their cut to clean the isk of its RMT stench.
Either way around I put in cash and get out isk that did not come from an in game plex sale. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
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