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Herr Wilkus Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 17	Posted - 2011.11.02 05:35:00 - [1] - Quote Effective Sec Status Repair in Highsec I enjoy blowing up defenseless miners. A lot. Nothing beats blasting a 200M+ Exhumer into scrap, while losing almost nothing in return thanks to T1-Insurance. At night, I touch myself while I think of miners slaving for hours to buy a new Hulk, and the fun I'll have tracking them down with locator agents and blowing it up again the next day. Anyway, going to share with the ganking community the fastest way, anywhere, to keep your sec status sparkling while you tear ice-mining Mackinaws and Hulks to pieces. After all, not all suicide-warfare experts are outlaws with perfect -10 status, jetting around in shuttles and pods in hisec. As I handle a lot of trade in hi-sec, I prefer to keep my security rating above -2.0. So every gank requires a bit of repair work to avoid outlaw status, and I don't have time to go out to null sec to rat. But you don't need to - Empire is faster! A successful gank in 0.5 space will usually set you back -0.3 security points. This goes up in higher-sec space. (IE, in 0.7, its closer to -0.5 points) Ratting a 'pirate faction' Battleship earns between +0.02-0.025 points, every 15 minutes. This means you will have to destroy a NPC battleship, every 15 minutes for 3-4 hours to earn back the penalty for a single gank. TOO LONG - but there are ways to speed this up quite a bit. Myself, I can usually erase the penalty for a successful Hulk gank in less than an hour. (IE, +0.3-0.4 points of security status in one hour - in hisec space) CHANGING SYSTEMS The 15 minute timer is specific to the system you are in. If you kill rats in two different systems, your security status increases twice as fast. Three different systems? Three times as fast, and so on. Its well known that you can earn sec status quickly by ratting in 0.0 (where the large NPC battleships roam in the asteroid fields). The bonus per battleship is the same, a player intent on ratting for security status can jump between multiple systems and get a sec bonus each time - limited only by jumping to new systems, gatecamps and the time it takes to find a suitable belt rat. This is also possible in high-sec, via LVL 4 missions. If you run two Level 4 missions, side by side, in two systems you achieve the same effect (without wasting time hunting for rats in asteroid belts.) Of course, not all rats grant security bonuses: AVOID faction kill missions, drone missions, EOM missions. CHANGING RACIAL RATS Another multiplier: Killing two rats (in the same system) of two different factions grants you an additional timer, multiplying your gains as well. IE, if you kill a Gurista, an Angel, and a Serpentis NPC within the same system, in 15 minutes, you will get THREE security increases every 15 minutes. This actually is an advantage for hi-sec ratting, as NPC belt rats are distributed geographically - you won't find multiple races of NPCs in belts within one system. SO, what does it mean? My preferred method of 'speed status repair' involves: Setting up (between my main and alt) 4 separate Level 4 missions, in two adjacent systems. After clearing the frigates and cruisers, you can move between these systems 'harvesting' the Battleships at a rate of about 4 every 15 minutes, increasing my security status by 0.08 - 0.1 point each 15 minutes - or 0.3-0.4 an hour. I like the 'The Blockade' (lots of Serp. high value BS, no gates) in two different systems, and 'Angel Extravaganza' or 'Pirate Invasion' (lots of Angel BS, few gates) in the same two systems. Recon (1/3) is pretty sweet too, but don't go through the gate, or the mission will complete - allow it to restock at down time. AVOID: Faction kill missions, Drones, EOM, Worlds Collide (doesn't give bonus for some reason) With multiple LVL 4 agents, turning down inappropriate missions, and intelligent farming (allowing the mission to reset at DT - for an entire week - rather than turning it in) - its surprisingly easy to set things up this way. In 15 minutes: Kill Serp BS, warp to Angel Mission. Kill Angel BS, warp to gate, jump to next system, warp to 2nd Serp mission. Kill Serp BS, warp to 2nd Angel Mission. Kill Angel BS, warp to gate, return to first system. Rinse repeat, with +0.1 sec status, each repetition. Don't have access to LVL 4 missions? Find a friend and get the bookmarks (which will be good for several days if nobody ends the mission) OR scan down mission runners and shoot THEIR rats. You don't even have to kill them, just target paint them for a second at let the MR do the work. Sad, 'running' missions for any reason, but I'm looking to get maximum ganking/hour. TLDR: Ratting speed increases when you: A) Change systems B) Kill different 'races' of NPCs You can erase a suicide gank penalty, in hi-sec, in a single hour.
Zions Child Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.11.02 05:42:00 - [2] - Quote This is suuuuch old news... Still proven effective though. I will still keep my stealth bomber o' doom in null sec though, it moves pretty quick.
Herr Wilkus Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 17	Posted - 2011.11.02 05:56:00 - [3] - Quote Oh, I know that this information is out there. Not claiming to know something others don't. But with the Ice Interdiction underway, and high-sec warfare nerfed - figured it would be good to inform people who weren't already in the know about how to fix their sex status - if they are that way inclined. Suicide ganking whines are at a fever pitch, and I want to get more potential wannabe gankers into the game - blasting Exhumers more efficiently than ever. Switching systems for a multiplier is common knowledge, but I am constantly surprised by how many people don't know about the 'racial' rat multiplier as well. Lots of people think they have to jump way out to the boonies to fix their status. They don't, quicker to stay in Empire if you can use LVL 4 agents. Further, using missions in this way means the rats are in predictable locations. Jump into each in succession, clear out the frigs and BCs, then harvest the Battleships one cycle at a time. Invite friends to come with you, the bonuses scale. A gang can repair just as easily as an individual. You don't even all have to be there at the same time, just share the bookmarks for an entire week. Lastly, bounty income for those living on a shoestring....!
Psychophantic 87	Posted - 2011.11.02 07:41:00 - [4] - Quote Consequences for suicide ganking working as intended. This thread would be a good place to mention the removal of insurance when killed by Concord. INB4 the hardships of suicide gankers.
Bad Messenger draketrain 16	Posted - 2011.11.02 07:51:00 - [5] - Quote We used similiar trick in lowsec when some of the members got accidentally -9.7 sec status in 10 sec. We were doing some gate camping and those unlucky members warped to mission and killed rat after every sec status tic. It was not as efficient but they fixed their sec status in a week while they were mostly doing pvp.
Embrace My Hate Black Horizon. Test Friends Please Ignore 27	Posted - 2011.11.02 09:10:00 - [6] - Quote Psychophantic wrote: Consequences for suicide ganking working as intended. This thread would be a good place to mention the removal of insurance when killed by Concord. INB4 the hardships of suicide gankers. Lol. Because coming up with this guide was super easy and took like 5 minutes to figure out I'm sure. Just another example of adaptation at it's finest.
David Grogan The Motley Crew Reborn 169	Posted - 2011.11.02 13:57:00 - [7] - Quote Herr Wilkus wrote: Effective Sec Status Repair in Highsec At night, I touch myself while I think of miners slaving for hours You need to get out more Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless your from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 240	Posted - 2011.11.02 14:21:00 - [8] - Quote I'm confused, this post started out like an insurance troll, but then went somewhere else, I think and is it 15 minutes or 20? The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Justin Credulent Perkone Caldari State 24	Posted - 2011.11.02 19:05:00 - [9] - Quote Yet more reason why CCP needs to remove inusrance payouts from criminal activity and add fines instead.
Herr Wilkus Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 22	Posted - 2011.11.02 20:37:00 - [10] - Quote Personally, I think a lot of people stay out of the ganking game because they either think they need a -10 alt, and can't afford to have their main as an outlaw. But its stupidly easy to keep your sec status well north of outlaw status, unless you start podding left and right. The only hang-up to this method is having LVL 4 agent access - and waiting for the right missions to appear. So whenever I log in, I tend to talk to my agents, reject the worthless non-'pirate faction' missions (once every 4 hours) or the missions that are more than 1 jump away. When Blockade, or one of the high-yield missions appears, I have up to a week to accept it. I generally wait until the other nearby agents offer favorable missions as well, then accept all of them simultaneously. Run the circuit each day, let the missions recharge at DT, and reap the benefits for an entire week. Usually you can harvest around 1 to 1.4 points of sec status without completing any of the missions. Thats enough to absorb the destruction of FOUR Hulks in 0.5 or 0.6. Also, its pretty easy to do on a separate client, so you can hunt for targets simultaneously with your alt. The incidental bounty ISK earned is easily enough to cover the cost of new T1 Platinum insured hulls and fittings, so you aren't even out of pocket...
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 14	Posted - 2011.11.02 20:40:00 - [11] - Quote Herr Wilkus wrote: Effective Sec Status Repair in Highsec At night, I touch myself while I think of miners slaving for hours to buy a new Hulk, and the fun I'll have tracking them down with locator agents and blowing it up again the next day. I fully support this cause. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
The Apostle The Black Priests 811	Posted - 2011.11.02 20:49:00 - [12] - Quote Excellent post. I am sure when someone works out how to apply some kind of bravery status to gankers you will be one of the first nominated for a medal. Bravo. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
ACY GTMI Veerhouven Group The Veerhouven Group 24	Posted - 2011.11.02 20:55:00 - [13] - Quote This is certainly exciting news for the mining community. Sometimes I wonder why we bother.
Herr Wilkus Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 22	Posted - 2011.11.02 20:56:00 - [14] - Quote Lord Mandelor wrote: Herr Wilkus wrote: Effective Sec Status Repair in Highsec At night, I touch myself while I think of miners slaving for hours to buy a new Hulk, and the fun I'll have tracking them down with locator agents and blowing it up again the next day. I fully support this cause. It gets better. If you want to maximize your tears, try this: Build some Hulks. (or buy/resell them) When you notice they sell, record the name of the person who purchased them. Use locator agents to track them down and pop them. Bonus points if you pop the Hulk within 24 hours of purchase. Bonus points if the pilot is 4-8 months old (and likely poor) Bonus points if you strike up a convo with the victim via a 'neutral' third party scout, and find out exactly how much it hurt afterward. I find that targeting and killing the same miner over and over maximizes the TEARS reaped per gank. Plenty of miners have no idea that locator agents even exist.
Psychophantic 88	Posted - 2011.11.02 21:39:00 - [15] - Quote This thread needs some Tippia to point out how easy miners have it compared to the arduous day to day routine of the oppressed suicide ganker.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. 60	Posted - 2011.11.02 21:40:00 - [16] - Quote Ironically I got ganked when I hit this thread link the first time Not much else to say as it has already been said above. EDIT: Got the ganked message on the forums that is Slade
Gank Award MC Gank Award Nomination Committee 0	Posted - 2011.11.02 21:45:00 - [17] - Quote The Apostle wrote: Excellent post. I am sure when someone works out how to apply some kind of bravery status to gankers you will be one of the first nominated for a medal. Bravo. Good idea.
Feilamya 3	Posted - 2011.11.02 21:57:00 - [18] - Quote The Apostle wrote: Excellent post. I am sure when someone works out how to apply some kind of bravery status to gankers you will be one of the first nominated for a medal. Bravo. Bravery? In a GAME?!
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 12	Posted - 2011.11.02 22:20:00 - [19] - Quote Hmmm...do you like tearing the wings off of flies, stuffing socks over little kitties' heads, throwing puppies across the room? I have this jacket that ties in the back that looks just like your size. It's a fashion statement, and all the rage. edit: I forgot to thank you for the list of what everyone already knows. It must have taken forever to type. You're a pip. Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold.
Herr Wilkus Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 22	Posted - 2011.11.02 23:00:00 - [20] - Quote If it enlightens just one new ganker..... If it means just one more uninsurable Exhumer is instapopped... If it means just one more miner quits the profession in rage.... it is worth it.
Hauling Hal The Black Ops 3	Posted - 2011.11.02 23:54:00 - [21] - Quote Herr Wilkus wrote: If it enlightens just one new ganker..... If it means just one more uninsurable Exhumer is instapopped... If it means just one more miner quits the profession in rage.... it is worth it. I'm always intrigued by the idea that people that shoot defenceless targets think they have achieved something.
Gank Award MC Gank Award Nomination Committee 2	Posted - 2011.11.02 23:56:00 - [22] - Quote Hauling Hal wrote: Herr Wilkus wrote: If it enlightens just one new ganker..... If it means just one more uninsurable Exhumer is instapopped... If it means just one more miner quits the profession in rage.... it is worth it. I'm always intrigued by the idea that people that shoot defenceless targets think they have achieved something. When our cash rewards and medals start being collectibles they WILL have achieved something Related post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=29117
Herr Wilkus Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 22	Posted - 2011.11.03 00:07:00 - [23] - Quote Hauling Hal wrote: Herr Wilkus wrote: If it enlightens just one new ganker..... If it means just one more uninsurable Exhumer is instapopped... If it means just one more miner quits the profession in rage.... it is worth it. I'm always intrigued by the idea that people that shoot defenceless targets think they have achieved something. Well, seeing as how I manufacture Tempests, Brutixes, 'Canes, Hulks and Mackinaws......yes, I like to think that I am accomplishing something by griefing miners.
Haulin Gneiss Ministry of War Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2011.11.03 00:42:00 - [24] - Quote what is the best gank ship for exumer? for hulk?
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 18	Posted - 2011.11.03 00:49:00 - [25] - Quote Haulin Gneiss wrote: what is the best gank ship for exumer? for hulk? For cost effectiveness, I'd imagine a blaster Brutix would do wonders. Also, those new BCs will become the terror of asteroid belts. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Herr Wilkus Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 22	Posted - 2011.11.03 07:54:00 - [26] - Quote I generally gank in alpha-Pests, because I like the instapop. Now that I know exactly how Concord works, and how to manipulate their response time (thanks to Goonswarm ), you can use Tempests for a 2-fer, popping two Hulks side-by-side before they arrive - even in 0.7 systems. How? Well, with max skills + Overheating + hardwires you can get the 'Pest to cycle its battery of 1400MM arty in just a tick under 13 seconds. That means if Concord is spawning for the first time in that system - the 1400MM arty won't reload until after Concord arrives in all high-sec systems except 0.5. HOWEVER, if you 'summon' Concord in another part of the system by committing a GCC elsewhere, that adds SIX seconds to their response time. Result? Tempest gets to cycle its guns twice, and kill two Hulks for a single T1 hull, for twice the rage and twice the ISK efficiency, destroying 400-450M worth of Hulk at almost no cost. Its a very effective way to hurt a rival industrial corp, or just to show miners who is boss. Where wardecs fail, suicide ganking delivers the pain.
Herr Wilkus Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 27	Posted - 2011.11.03 20:41:00 - [27] - Quote For ages, I'd been popping Hulks, and never could figure out why there was such a large variable in their response times. Usually showing up around 13 seconds, but occasionally taking nearly 20. Now its easy to get nearly 20 seconds every time, and over 15 in 0.7 systems where there are lots of Exhumers mining in groups. Always go for the double tap, especially if they are corpmates.
Solomar Espersei Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service 108	Posted - 2011.11.03 20:49:00 - [28] - Quote And they say industrialists lack teeth. Bravo Wilkus, bravo! Recruiting is OPEN Please join our public channel The Ninja Dojo for more info
Raissa Vallem Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2011.11.15 21:17:00 - [29] - Quote Herr Wilkus wrote: Effective Sec Status Repair in Highsec I enjoy blowing up defenseless miners. A lot. Nothing beats blasting a 200M+ Exhumer into scrap, while losing almost nothing in return thanks to T1-Insurance. At night, I touch myself while I think of miners slaving for hours to buy a new Hulk [/b] Mate, you really need to lose your virginity at some point. Preferably with a human being
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 381	Posted - 2011.11.15 21:25:00 - [30] - Quote If you were a real PvPer, you wouldn't be living in highsec. Simple as.

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