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Stelarr
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:40:00 -
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I ran some missions for gallente, and it droped my caldari standing some. As I understand it, doing missions for one of the factions will drop your standing with one of the others. So, what happens if I continue to run gallente missions and geta really high negative standing with caldari?
Also, anyone knows if it's worth it to run missions for sisters of eve? since they are neutral to the 4 racial factions it seems.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.02.01 00:24:00 -
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SoE are very slightly hostile to the Caldari/Amarr; and yes, they have agents all over the place.
See?
If your standing with an empire gets low enough (-2.5), you will not be able to talk to any of their agents, period. If it gets even more low enough (I think, -5?) you'll be shot on sight by Caldari Navy vessels when you enter their space. ________________________________________________
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Stelarr
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Posted - 2006.02.01 01:08:00 -
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So what do people who worked their way to lvl 4 agents and run those missions a lot do? Just don't go to the hostile faction's territory or is there a way around this, short of doing missions for the other faction, whcih would be a pain.
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Talinda Winters
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Posted - 2006.02.01 03:58:00 -
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under no situations do the high faction penalty missions like human cattle, 4 or 5 of those could put you into unrecoverable caldari standing.
Stick the pirate missions. They give much much smaller penalties to pirates and in most cases a low pirate doesnt hurt like low calderi does.
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Valea Silpha
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Posted - 2006.02.01 04:43:00 -
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Im proud of my loss of Ammar standing and i think everyone else should be too. I've ranted previously about the purpose of kill missions which i won't reprise entirely however the upshot is this : You kill people for money, not everyone will be happy with that, just which people will depend on who you kill.
Along the same lines ... has anyone been attacked by navy by entreing their space with LOW standing ? Are they like CONCORD and warp in to ubergank you ? Or is it just the ships present at the time that attack ? If its the latter, then would that mean that me and some buddies could all band together and nearly literally go to war with an empire and get some tasty navy loot ;)
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Selous
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Posted - 2006.02.01 04:51:00 -
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well ive heard all the stories , I have 2 agents that give me `war situation` on a regular basis , this used to give , pre rmr , 4k lp and 60 mill + loot for 2 hours work ( nerfed on loot now ) .in the series you kill loads of ammar ships . My amarr standing is bout -6 , I flew down to amarr space to see if I get kersplatted , I dont . I hve been there a few times now and nothing happens .
I would like to know what is supposed to happen , and how I get my ammarr standing up ( if thats worth doing )
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Talinda Winters
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Posted - 2006.02.01 05:11:00 -
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I have no problem with standing loss as long as balanced by a standing gain. Right now the loss to faction standing is about 50 times higher than the gain.
If you tried to do opposing missions, you would wind up with negative in both factions.
The problem is the balance.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.02.01 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Talinda Winters I have no problem with standing loss as long as balanced by a standing gain. Right now the loss to faction standing is about 50 times higher than the gain.
If you tried to do opposing missions, you would wind up with negative in both factions.
The problem is the balance.
Actually, many people DO do opposing missions, and do NOT wind up with negative standing on both factions. You must be working it out wrong. ________________________________________________
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DarknessInc
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Posted - 2006.02.01 08:23:00 -
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Diplomacy lv 5 Connections LV5
Social lv 5
THESE are NEEDED.
Diplomacy will help when you get negative standings with a faction.
<.< I had negative standings with the Amarr Navy. like -0.53 and with Diplomacy lv 3 I got it to like 2.77 or something.
:) You can always save the trouble and train your social skills so you dont get ****** in standings :)
people never think of that cuz social skills are the lost secrets to not having crapped out standings.
HELL go look at my standings ingame :)
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Talinda Winters
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Posted - 2006.02.01 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc Diplomacy lv 5 Connections LV5
Social lv 5
THESE are NEEDED.
Diplomacy will help when you get negative standings with a faction.
<.< I had negative standings with the Amarr Navy. like -0.53 and with Diplomacy lv 3 I got it to like 2.77 or something.
:) You can always save the trouble and train your social skills so you dont get ****** in standings :)
people never think of that cuz social skills are the lost secrets to not having crapped out standings.
HELL go look at my standings ingame :)
Thats fine for a person who has been in the game for a long time, for a 2 month player like me all Ive had time for is social 4 and connection 2, I need to train survival skills first. And these faction crushing missions show up in early 2's.
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Lothar Delamar
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Posted - 2006.02.02 20:03:00 -
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In my experience if you follow the tactic below you should be able to get a good standing over a long period from everyone (except the pirates)
Do a lot of missions for the corp of your choice in order to get storyline missions but make sure that you don't accept corp missions like human cattle where you have to blow up faction ships.
Don't let your standing fall too low with a faction as to not be able to talk to their agents.
Your faction standings will rise slowly over time. I have had a bad Caldari standing due to many human cattle missions but I have noticed that since I have started doing storyline missions for Caldari my standing loss for Minmatar was 0.02 whereas Caldari standing gain was 0.13. Mind you I don't know how this affects my Amarr standing so this might be a simplistic way of looking at it 
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Paimae
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Posted - 2006.02.02 23:27:00 -
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The only negative affect the low standing will have with a faction is if you are trying to refine minerals with them. The lower the rating the more they take.
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2006.02.03 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Valea Silpha Im proud of my loss of Ammar standing and i think everyone else should be too. I've ranted previously about the purpose of kill missions which i won't reprise entirely however the upshot is this : You kill people for money, not everyone will be happy with that, just which people will depend on who you kill.
Along the same lines ... has anyone been attacked by navy by entreing their space with LOW standing ? Are they like CONCORD and warp in to ubergank you ? Or is it just the ships present at the time that attack ? If its the latter, then would that mean that me and some buddies could all band together and nearly literally go to war with an empire and get some tasty navy loot ;)
I do not regret my bad standing with Amarr and Ammatar at all. It just fits my character. Yes, I have been attacked by ammatar navy AND customs. Faction navy is no real threat, you can outgun them quite easily, alone or in a gang - happy hunting! Customs is another thing, they fight as CONCORD does. You should avoid them.
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2006.02.24 00:03:00 -
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Baldour's link unmangled.
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