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I Love Boobies All Hail Boobies 634	Posted - 2013.10.22 11:50:00 - [31] - Quote Tron 3K wrote: the new UI(mockup) from EVE Vegas that they showed?! I want it nao! "I will take... "Why must people talk or type like 2 year olds to be cool?" for 2000, Alex." removed inappropriate signature - CCP Eterne
Tron 3K Ship Spinning Industries 145	Posted - 2013.10.22 11:51:00 - [32] - Quote I Love Boobies wrote: Tron 3K wrote: the new UI(mockup) from EVE Vegas that they showed?! I want it nao! "I will take... "Why must people talk or type like 2 year olds to be cool?" for 2000, Alex." Coming from someone that named themself I love boobies thats rich.. (Not that there is anything wrong with that as I love boobies as well..)
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1035	Posted - 2013.10.22 12:03:00 - [33] - Quote One reason why we can't have nice things : Tippia This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless
J3ssica Alba Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1035	Posted - 2013.10.22 12:05:00 - [34] - Quote Anyways, nothing to fear, they also had a new UI mockup at fanfest 2 years ago, also where shields actually showed up when taking damage. Guess what happened to those This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless
Tron 3K Ship Spinning Industries 145	Posted - 2013.10.22 12:09:00 - [35] - Quote J3ssica Alba wrote: Anyways, nothing to fear, they also had a new UI mockup at fanfest 2 years ago, also where shields actually showed up when taking damage. Guess what happened to those Oh pick me pick me! The answer is Tippia, right?!
Arduemont 12 pound opinion 2219	Posted - 2013.10.22 12:12:00 - [36] - Quote Tippia wrote: Liam Inkuras wrote: Edit: Is that Latin written in local? It's Lorem Ipsum GÇö the standard dummy text for graphical design. Learn something new every day. Usually from Tippia. I'll file that one away. Might start adding it into my UIs from now on. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice."
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance 96	Posted - 2013.12.26 18:51:00 - [37] - Quote Destination SkillQueue wrote: Tippia wrote: Ugh, no. Too Hollywood: looks pretty, but also functionally awful. This. Looking good is fine, but functionality is king. Tag you're it!! Random-like war has been WON!! Mwahahahahaaa http://www.devilswarrior.info/killboard/?a=home
Notorious Fellon Republic University Minmatar Republic 70	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:04:00 - [38] - Quote The notion that anyone could possibly be 100% against a GUI when they have no idea what options are available (such as transparency, etc) is just mind boggling. It is a static image. You can't possibly be totally "for" or "against" a static image of a GUI. You have no clue what settings would be available, nor what customization exists or is planned. Emitting false rage is not a forum sport.
crononyx Running with Knives Nexus Fleet 2	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:17:00 - [39] - Quote That image is clearly just designers' (who don't seem too experienced with the game...) prototype, not a final version. They will give it for review to someone who has better understanding of the game and all the bloat (cpu, some ship images) will be removed. Too early to hate on it...
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2720	Posted - 2013.12.26 19:20:00 - [40] - Quote The only argument "for" adopting that seems to just be "I feel like I'm in a sci-fi movie! ". Why not look at the actual usability and quality of the design? I took the liberty of marking up the bad, good, and ugly of what I see. Certain changes ("CPU" display, bad targeting icons, difficult to parse shield/armor/struct) makes me think that whoever designed this has never actually played Eve extensively, or at least has no clue which UI elements/features are important and used regularly. Overall, I'm all for "shiny" and "ooh pretty sci-fi" rather than boring spreadsheets in space. However, there is a huge gap between that and a un-compact, inefficient (duplicate info), and incomprehensible UI. This mockup trends more towards the latter in trying to achieve the former. tl;dr: No. Try again with a better UI. Ed: "But this is just a mockup, you have to ~imagine~ what the real one would look like" is not an argument. Your imagination cannot be objectively marked up and receive feedback. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com
Na Kahm Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:42:00 - [41] - Quote Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote: Lilliana Stelles wrote: I couldn't find the speedometer on it. It looks cool but it also looks more irritating, as I'm not really sure what parts of it are supposed to be clickable. The buttons were much less obvious. http://i.imgur.com/NXlkqvG.png I think the speed is @ 0430 o'clock and shows 230m/s in the linked image... if I read the blurry image correctly :D I do wonder how one would go about setting speed though... John 17 : 23
Abon STAHLSTURM Fatal Ascension 170	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:52:00 - [42] - Quote I basically like the idea, but this iteration is a tad bloated i agree on that. I doubt we will see this ingame...it is probably just one of many ideas.
Jill Chastot Oath of the Forsaken Ragnarok. 83	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:52:00 - [43] - Quote Better question, why the hell does the manticore have artillery fitted? Large at that....
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2721	Posted - 2013.12.26 20:55:00 - [44] - Quote Jill Chastot wrote: Better question, why the hell does the manticore have artillery fitted? Large at that.... And why does the Manticore look like a Corax in space? Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com
Nariya Kentaya Always Negative 784	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:14:00 - [45] - Quote Notorious Fellon wrote: The notion that anyone could possibly be 100% against a GUI when they have no idea what options are available (such as transparency, etc) is just mind boggling. It is a static image. You can't possibly be totally "for" or "against" a static image of a GUI. You have no clue what settings would be available, nor what customization exists or is planned. Emitting false rage is not a forum sport. and there is no statement or explanation fo what features WILL eb available. so if it is judged, it will be judged by what is THERE, make sense? also, if NO ONE complained about ANYTHING, then this "first proto" would eb the FINAL proto, and a UI with NO options or functionality WOULD be introduced, upon much griping, complaining, and unsubbing would ensue. we SAVE CCP dev hours by complaining, because if we didnt complain, they woudlnt know what to do anymore
Jill Chastot Oath of the Forsaken Ragnarok. 83	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:16:00 - [46] - Quote Petrus Blackshell wrote: Jill Chastot wrote: Better question, why the hell does the manticore have artillery fitted? Large at that.... And why does the Manticore look like a Corax in space? .... aint the faintest clue
James Nikolas Tesla Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 8	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:31:00 - [47] - Quote Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote: Lilliana Stelles wrote: I couldn't find the speedometer on it. It looks cool but it also looks more irritating, as I'm not really sure what parts of it are supposed to be clickable. The buttons were much less obvious. http://i.imgur.com/NXlkqvG.png I think the speed is @ 0430 o'clock and shows 230m/s in the linked image... if I read the blurry image correctly :D I do wonder how one would go about setting speed though... That looks bad ass I am an AFK miner, don't like it? Try to gank me, odds are I am already aligned and not that far from my keyboard.
Carmen Electra The Scope Gallente Federation 144	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:37:00 - [48] - Quote Tippia wrote: Ugh, no. Too Hollywood: looks pretty, but also functionally awful. I'm usually all about eye candy, but I have to agree with this in this case.
Aurora Fatalis Blacklight Recon Mordus Angels 44	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:37:00 - [49] - Quote EVE has graphics?
Sodium Canine Rubber Assh0les 22	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:37:00 - [50] - Quote crononyx wrote: Too early to hate on it... You must be new to the Internet. Its NEVER too early to hate on something, or someone, you've never actually seen!
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE. 124	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:46:00 - [51] - Quote Desperately needs transparency. I like the removal of the left hand side bar though. As for the corax/manticore/artillery thing, it looks like this is supposed to be a design mockup, not an ingame screen shot. I mean he's autopiloting on grid with hostile players. The selected item view is cool, but I'm worried that its going to be too big for smaller monitors. This view doesn't seem to account for how much information the overview needs to give. I hate to disagree with you,-ábut there is nothing subjective about "boring" in connection to "mining". -á-á-á-á -- Solstice Project's Alt
Bel Tika Dirty Rotten Scoundrel's Not.Safe.For.Work. 185	Posted - 2013.12.26 22:44:00 - [52] - Quote i like the "look" of it tbh, would need to test though to see if i actually liked it, but there some things in there im impressed with just from picture
Logan Revelore Minimal Solutions Aurora Irae 16	Posted - 2013.12.27 00:43:00 - [53] - Quote Not impressed by it. That said I wouldn't mind if they implemented modding support for the UI, LUA perhaps. My biggest gripe is the lack of several hotkeys. And I'd definitely like a smoother drone interface. But I guess the lack of certain hotkeys is to make it harder on botters, just annoying that I have to suffer because of it.
Ellumielle Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2013.12.27 00:50:00 - [54] - Quote Additional and/or improved features are awesome but the visual redesign is completely unnecessary.
Shiti Dama University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.12.27 00:53:00 - [55] - Quote Alphax45 wrote: I don't hate it, but you don't need CPU and power grid when your in space, only when fitting.... Mobile Depot.
Lors Dornick Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet 906	Posted - 2013.12.27 02:46:00 - [56] - Quote Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote: Lilliana Stelles wrote: I couldn't find the speedometer on it. It looks cool but it also looks more irritating, as I'm not really sure what parts of it are supposed to be clickable. The buttons were much less obvious. http://i.imgur.com/NXlkqvG.png I think the speed is @ 0430 o'clock and shows 230m/s in the linked image... if I read the blurry image correctly :D I do wonder how one would go about setting speed though... Oh dear Eris please just kill this before it happens. Can we just get a solid, clear and functional UI without fnuh and illuminated fnord useless bling. First you make things work, then you add bling, but only as long as it doesn't interfere with functionality. CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
Allaera Oh Bugga League 0f Grumpy 0ld Farts 9	Posted - 2013.12.27 04:15:00 - [57] - Quote Jill Chastot wrote: Better question, why the hell does the manticore have artillery fitted? Large at that.... An even better question is - why does that Tempest (?) have a Kestrel's (where does it say it's a Manticore) image? Petrus Blackshell wrote: And why does the Manticore look like a Corax in space? What, you never looked at another ship in space other than your own before?
Caviar Liberta Moira. Villore Accords 344	Posted - 2013.12.27 05:14:00 - [58] - Quote Tron 3K wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Tron 3K wrote: No wonder they don't touch anything with this game.. Anything they attempt to change is always hit with people that hate change for no real reason other than it has changed.. Sorry we have a different opinion to you Must be a first No its fine to have a different opinion but giving no reason is just trolling.. Those that actually gave a reason I'm not speaking too.. but your trolling is just boring and repetitive.. Game interfacing and input design. This might help you understand why most people are against what they saw with that UI. [Minimalism] is also used to describe a trend in design and architecture wherein the subject is reduced to its necessary elements.
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 705	Posted - 2013.12.27 08:30:00 - [59] - Quote So, wait a second, people are asking for reactivation time indication, sorting of characters in chat lists, and the like... And are given this instead? Lol.
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 2740	Posted - 2013.12.27 08:47:00 - [60] - Quote That mockup is not an intended final product. They already said that when presenting it. That's why it is called a mockup. It isn't even close to a functional product. It wasn't even created by someone who develops the UI. It was created by someone in the art department when asked to make some mockups for visual styles. It was created to show how the 'blue transparent' style might look in a finished product. It was created to show color and shape schemes, to show how a certain visual style might look when the entire UI is using it. There are more images like that with different color and shape schemes. Within the same set of slides, CCP also showed different early mockups of the radial menu using different shapes for the buttons. It is NOT designed to show the end result layout. It is NOT designed to show the end result functionality. It is ONLY designed to show the end result visual scheme. Nothing in that picture (except the radial menu) has gone through the rigorous design, testing, and Q/A phases necessary for something to hit TQ. The entire purpose of that image along with its siblings was for CCP to decide which visual style they liked best and in which direction to take the general aesthetics of EVE's user interface. This is the one they decided on, and so future developments of the UI will resemble this image in style. TL;DR Both the haters and the lovers are correct. You'll get something that looks like this, but you won't get something that's as confusing and impractical as this. ... well, we can hope. Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations

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