People wanted alliances to be allowed and the hard-on they got when CCP said they considered it drained all the blood from their brains so they "forgot" to demand some kind of limitation on it .. resulting in FW becoming the premiere venue for null entities to fatten up in between or at the same time as having (in)significant null presence.

They will stay for a few months (if that), stock up on ISK and faction gear and go away again. If you are a farmer and your pasture has been disturbed then tough it out, if you are not then you are doing it wrong (according to consensus)

its hard to get heckled when you're killing this many squids. galmil is 2/3rds the size i think? and what, we get about twice the kills?


numbers>spin

1 good pilot > 1 bad pilot

2 bad pilots > 1 good pilot

Luckily, we have an abundant supply of bad pilots.

this is incorrect. http://fwstats.eve-ic.net/

we kill you more with less pilots. the facts support the opposite of your claim.

next?

Many numbers on that site you linked do not match up with the API.
Look at the top killer for last 7 days in pilot and corp stats.

https://api.eveonline.com/eve/FacWarTopStats.xml.aspx

Last update was 4 years ago. I doubt the data on that site is of any value.

the relevant data is indeed up to date.

but hey if you wanna link me a site that shows we arent killing you in greater numbers with less pilots please do so. ill wait.

This is horrible! ZOMG more fights?! How am I going to be able to farm when there are so many Caldari flying around? /me ragequitting FW.

You don't need to farm, you just get your MINIMUM WAGE Matari IMMIGRANTS to do it for you. So much for the Federation being "Progressive".

zkillboard as of this moment

The Church of Awesome, 21 members, 234 kills for the month
Black Fox Marauders, 25 members, 1393 kills for the month

1 good pilot > 1 bad pilot

2 bad pilots > 1 good pilot

Your killboard is a good link to start at.

You have only killed 2 militia targets ever.
Please tell me more about all the great number of Caldari you have killed?

zkillboard as of this moment

The Church of Awesome, 21 members, 234 kills for the month
Black Fox Marauders, 25 members, 1393 kills for the month



Well, actually that's pretty much 10 people in our corp.
And lulz 569 kills with atrons. PRO

2v1 is almost always a win for the two. Unless you have some way to break the two players apart, or if they are in inferior ships, the solo player will always lose that scenario.

However, bad players almost always means bad fits and bad fits compounded with bad players allow one person to kill multiple people.

I was just having a dig at the derpy who was big noting.
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Who knew Cancer could be so fun?

How is TEST killing FW? If anything they are bringing more fights which is all good. The only downside I see to this is when they cashout their FW LP, going to really **** off all the Caldari FW pilots when their LP ain't worth crap and TEST goes LOLOLOLOL all the way to Jita.

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How I see it? Even if my LP become worth crap - I would have an endless supply of Navy Scorpions for a while. That sounds relatively sexy if you ask me.

Not as sexy as my 100 Federation Navy Comets.

Does anyone know if there's a frigate hull available that can do at least 110 DPS while being able to fit 4 warp core stabilizers?

My plexing dramiel can only fit 3 WCS

Not as sexy as my 100 Federation Navy Comets.

I for one LOVE having TEST in FW - my killboard has literally never looked as good as it has in the past month!

CCP, please stop Ramaza from posting, he is embarassing himself

You testies never stop the water works do ya? I find it funny how one person broke down a whole 5000 man alliance to tears in local and on the forums. I hope yall never leave faction war the tears are just too epic.

You testies never stop the water works do ya? I find it funny how one person broke down a whole 5000 man alliance to tears in local and on the forums. I hope yall never leave faction war the tears are just too epic.

You testies never stop the water works do ya? I find it funny how one person broke down a whole 5000 man alliance to tears in local and on the forums. I hope yall never leave faction war the tears are just too epic.

i find the best way to tell who is winning in FW is to ignore system flipping but concentrate on our personal killboard stats

You're getting closer, but not quite there.

No, its not. Killboards that is. Killboards are fun. Give you a little bit to brag about here and there, but all they really are is inflated stats. You know what I am talking about. You do less than 1% damage on a kill, you dont get the killing shot, and the damn thing still winds up on your killboard isk eff %.

It isnt for any one person to dictate to EVE what THEY think FW is about. Maybe you like to stat pad your killboard, maybe others like to system flip. And yes, flipping systems can involve PVP. I havent ever seen a group of stabbed ventures flip an ihub.

As a whole, Gallente militia has been roflstomping the Caldari non-stop (on a kills level), but the Caldari have been finishing more plexes (probably more farming overall).

For example, nothing my corp can do about a qcat blob. They like to 15v2 whenever they can.

As a whole, Gallente militia has been roflstomping the Caldari non-stop (on a kills level), but the Caldari have been finishing more plexes (probably more farming overall).

But yeah, that raw data is a decent indicator. Is there a killboard that just does that and not the inflated stuff?

Trolling aside, this is a serious post.

Look, this might just be because I "grew up" in sov warfare and kills mean essentially nothing there, but could you please give me a reason why kills matter in the slightest in FW?

I have asked lots of galmil dudes on lots of occasions but I have never gotten a clear answer. Like, no reason at all, just the usual shittalk. So please answer me this simple question:

Why do KBstats matter in factional warfare or lowsec in general?

No hurf, no bragging, just a simple answer that helps me understand your mindset would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Trolling aside, this is a serious post.

Look, this might just be because I "grew up" in sov warfare and kills mean essentially nothing there, but could you please give me a reason why kills matter in the slightest in FW?

I have asked lots of galmil dudes on lots of occasions but I have never gotten a clear answer. Like, no reason at all, just the usual shittalk. So please answer me this simple question:

Why do KBstats matter in factional warfare or lowsec in general?

No hurf, no bragging, just a simple answer that helps me understand your mindset would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Trolling aside, this is a serious post.

Look, this might just be because I "grew up" in sov warfare and kills mean essentially nothing there, but could you please give me a reason why kills matter in the slightest in FW?

I have asked lots of galmil dudes on lots of occasions but I have never gotten a clear answer. Like, no reason at all, just the usual shittalk. So please answer me this simple question:

Why do KBstats matter in factional warfare or lowsec in general?

No hurf, no bragging, just a simple answer that helps me understand your mindset would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Because most of the people that join FW are interested in PVP not sov mechanics (otherwise they would be in nullsec).

I'm confused, I was unaware their was any other reason to play Eve besides blowing peoples stuff up?

I'm confused, I was unaware their was any other reason to play Eve besides blowing peoples stuff up?

Trolling aside, this is a serious post.

Look, this might just be because I "grew up" in sov warfare and kills mean essentially nothing there, but could you please give me a reason why kills matter in the slightest in FW?

I have asked lots of galmil dudes on lots of occasions but I have never gotten a clear answer. Like, no reason at all, just the usual shittalk. So please answer me this simple question:

Why do KBstats matter in factional warfare or lowsec in general?

No hurf, no bragging, just a simple answer that helps me understand your mindset would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Yeah, that part is true. But honestly, the inability of the Calmil corps to work together rockets this stuff over the top. For example, nothing my corp can do about a qcat blob. They like to 15v2 whenever they can. Im not saying I wouldnt do it if the tables were turned, but my corp cant fight that. We may have 6 ppl online at average. The surrounding Calmil'ers are mostly farmers ( didnt lift a finger to help defend Fliet, Deven, or Heyd) or "uneasy blues" that shoot you for "stealing" their LP.

But yeah, that raw data is a decent indicator. Is there a killboard that just does that and not the inflated stuff?

guys it's super important who kills more t1 fit merlins. super important

ignore system flips. it only matters who kills more t1 throwaway frigates that are literally given out for free.

guys it's super important who kills more t1 fit merlins. super important

ignore system flips. it only matters who kills more t1 throwaway frigates that are literally given out for free.

guys it's super important who kills more t1 fit merlins. super important

ignore system flips. it only matters who kills more t1 throwaway frigates that are literally given out for free.

guys it's super important who kills more t1 fit merlins. super important

ignore system flips. it only matters who kills more t1 throwaway frigates that are literally given out for free.

Trolling aside, this is a serious post.

Look, this might just be because I "grew up" in sov warfare and kills mean essentially nothing there, but could you please give me a reason why kills matter in the slightest in FW?

I have asked lots of galmil dudes on lots of occasions but I have never gotten a clear answer. Like, no reason at all, just the usual shittalk. So please answer me this simple question:

Why do KBstats matter in factional warfare or lowsec in general?

No hurf, no bragging, just a simple answer that helps me understand your mindset would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Things only matter because that is what players decide matters to them.

Personally I find the amount of mad you can generate to be a far surer metric of success in Eve. Like the time I kept telling galmil that Jon Snow survives, becomes Lord Commander of the Watch while Tyrion kills Tywin and Shae after being falsely accused of Joffrey's assassination at his wedding. They didn't seem to like that much. I think some actually left local before I could tell them that Lady Stark comes back from the dead.

(apologies to PL for stealing their gimmick but it's just too good)

But Jon Snow gets knifed in the back, ultimately proving to be a failure. What now?